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Who is the Avs most important player not named MacKinnon?
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If you would have said Tyson Jost you would have had a mob coming down on you but Yost.....you might be on to something here.
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At the end of the day, scoring wins you games. After Mac, Makar is the 2nd best at generating those chances.
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Makar
Rantanen
Grubauer/Francouz/Girard
Kadri
Landeskog; less for his play, more for those intangy's
Compher/PEB/Nichushkin/Donskoi/Bura/Calvert/Graves/Cole/Good Zadorov
Byram, Timmins, Newhook are not 'important' to the team on the ice right now so I didn't place them.
Rantanen
Grubauer/Francouz/Girard
Kadri
Landeskog; less for his play, more for those intangy's
Compher/PEB/Nichushkin/Donskoi/Bura/Calvert/Graves/Cole/Good Zadorov
Byram, Timmins, Newhook are not 'important' to the team on the ice right now so I didn't place them.
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Goaltending is the most important position, but seeing as the Avs have two capable goalies I would go in another direction.
For me, it’s between Makar and Rantanen. Those two, along with MacK, drive the bus offensively.
Honestly, I think they would be in big trouble in a playoff series without either of them. I’d probably say Makar, because the Avs are deeper up-front than they are on the backend, but I dunno.
Rantanen’s already proven to be a big game player, so it’s tough to say.
For me, it’s between Makar and Rantanen. Those two, along with MacK, drive the bus offensively.
Honestly, I think they would be in big trouble in a playoff series without either of them. I’d probably say Makar, because the Avs are deeper up-front than they are on the backend, but I dunno.
Rantanen’s already proven to be a big game player, so it’s tough to say.
All due respect, "goaltending" is not a player.
And really, goaltending is supremely over-valued by a lot of teams. You just need your goalies to be "good enough." Making major investments in netminders almost always backfires. The Avs went about it the right way, they went out and got a couple relatively inexpensive netminders and are trying to develop a couple options from within the system. Compare that to what Florida did this offseason, or what Montreal did with Price.
Is goaltending important? Sure it is, but not as important as snagging that top-tier center and defenseman. I'd argue goaltending isn't even as important as getting a legit scoring winger or two, 2nd line center, or defensive forwards. Obviously you can't afford to screw it up, but I think the margin for error is bigger than most people think. There are a plethora of goalies out there and each team only really needs two.
If you're making a sizable investment in goaltending, it should be in a good goalie coach.
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Depends on what we mean by most important. A replacement-level goalie wouldn't hurt us as much as having to replace Cale with a replacement-level blueliner.
I think it might if we can't score enough to overcome replacement level goaltending.
If Huch plays, and they are so good defensively they make that dude look passable, and can score enough I'll change my mind lol.
Look at what goaltending is doing to Carolina.
Oh god lol wall of text with a team building tangent.
I'm talking about our team, down the stretch here and into the playoffs. We need one of our goalies to play extremely well. Especially right now with injuries, and our scoring being down.
If Frank hadn't been as good as he was our record would look very different over the last little while.
I guess right now its Frank.
We're not scoring enough to have an average goalie right now.
I am curious to see how much of an impact team defense is having though. So I'll be curious to see what happens when Huch plays.
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Mikko hasn't been the second most important forward on the team at any point all year except maybe the start.
We'd be running away with the Division if he was.
I'd say Makar, Girard, Graves, Cole, Zadorov and Johnson as I don't believe that we have good replacement for them right now.
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He definitely hasn't played like the second most important player, but to me, that doesn't mean he isn't the second most important player.
I think particularly in the playoffs, Mikko at his best slightly edges Makar at his best.
I'd go with Makar, but I get it. We've just basically had the year we've had without Mikko for most of it. Playoffs could be a different animal.
