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...yes, HOF's are now critiqued by a generation that is limited to exposure of such players to video game 'historical teams.'
Russian_fanatic said:Bossy is far from overrated. Top 10 player ever.
arrbez said:Granted, I never saw him play, but I think you'd have an awful hard time putting him in the top 10 hockey players ever. Maybe just among forwards, and even then he'd have some stiff competition
From what I've gathered, Trottier and Potvin seem to be held in higher regard
arrbez said:Granted, I never saw him play, but I think you'd have an awful hard time putting him in the top 10 hockey players ever. Maybe just among forwards, and even then he'd have some stiff competition
From what I've gathered, Trottier and Potvin seem to be held in higher regard
I wont even waste my time voting as I see this poll only has 7 or so votes I wonder why?chooch said:Jeez to see these 2 guys almost unanimously on all-time lists really boggles the mind when you consider that when they played it was a different story.
Robinson:
A fantastic player and individual;
Had a superb shot which he could step into at full speed.
Enormous but sporadic hitter. Devastating fighter rarely challenged.
Huge reach and speed made getting by him difficult if not impossible for forwards
Was class act who was deeply respected by the opposition.Other players after about 1980 wouldnt hit him out of respect. His head injury which led to the wearing of a helmet is a good example. When he fell, the fighting going on around him stopped as everyone was concerned for him.
But suffered from mental lapses possibly from overwork. Didnt really standout much from Lapointe or Savard during glory years. Lapointe was an allstar who could really lug the puck; Savard a Smythe winner.
Made huge gaff OT Game 1 Semis 1975 or else could have been 5 in a row. Gave puck away a lot.
Bottom line: was really just another Big 3 member albeit likely the best one but not by much. His post retirement rise is helped by peaking at right time during dynasty.
Bossy:
Was a premier sniper who could score at will, bouncing puck, tough checking, playoffs etc. Don't have much else good to say.
Was weak defensively. Never dominated a single game, N-e-v-e-r. Always needed to be set up. Couldnt stickhandle or cut at speed. Every see him dance away from 5 players and score a timely goal?
Bottom line: was greatly assisted by starting out on an expansion team (imagine Lafleur in Oakland ?) and by playing with the best all round player of his generation and the best defensiveman.
His stock has greatly risen after retirement based on inflated 80's stats.
Bossy gets my vote for more overated
DrMoses said:Bossy's PPG is third best all-time.
How can chooch call him overrated?
Because he was a defensive liability? Well Mario is his vote for best of all-time so bringing down othe rplayers for their lack of defense is rather silly...
Bring Back Bucky said:I absolutely hated Mike Bossy, but let me tell you, if my life was on the line and I needed a goal, there is absolutely no one I've seen that I would rather have putting stick to puck. Bossy's career is less noted than Trottier's because it was cut so short, otherwise he'd be even more revered.
I always thought that the guy looked very deficient in either iron or some other vital mineral..
arrbez said:Nobody will argue that he's arguably the best pure goal-scorer ever, but I get the impression that his game wasn't up there with Trottier and Potvin as far as completeness.
I still say it would be damn near impossible to fit him in the top 10 players of all time at any position. Gretz, Lemieux, Howe, and probably Richard, Beliveau, Hull would be ahead of him. And that's not even including defenseman and goalies
top 10 forwards: possibly
top 10 scorers: easily
top 10 players: I just can't see it
Epsilon said:Neither guy is overrated. If I had to pick one as "more overrated" though I would go for Bossy, just because I'd guess most people would have him ahead of Robinson on "best ever" lists, and I'd have it the other way round.
norrisnick said:I'd say it's a tossup between Lemieux and Lafleur.
I'm sorry, but you don't even know what you are talking about.chooch said:d
Bossy:
Was a premier sniper who could score at will, bouncing puck, tough checking, playoffs etc. Don't have much else good to say.
Was weak defensively. Never dominated a single game, N-e-v-e-r. Always needed to be set up. Couldnt stickhandle or cut at speed. Every see him dance away from 5 players and score a timely goal?
Bottom line: was greatly assisted by starting out on an expansion team (imagine Lafleur in Oakland ?) and by playing with the best all round player of his generation and the best defensiveman.
His stock has greatly risen after retirement based on inflated 80's stats.
Bossy gets my vote for more overated
Hmmm, tough to say.Bring Back Bucky said:Which driver imperiled the lives of more small children?? : Lemieux or Lafleur
mcphee said:Chooch says Trottier was a better player. Why ? I imagine because he did more things, thus the elusive 'complete player' we all gush over. The most complete player isn't necessarily the best player.
c-carp said:I dont think either are overrated at all you are going to get flamed for this one big time.