Who is Chevy's best draft pick?

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Choose Chevy's best draft pick

  1. Laine

    6.8%
  2. Ehlers

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Scheifele

    73.0%
  4. Lowry

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Hellebyuck

    9.5%
  6. Connor

    8.8%
  7. Morrissey

    2.0%
  8. Trouba

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. HannuJ

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    I'm defining "best" as "best return on selection".
    It doesn't necessarily mean "player x because he was chosen in the 5th round." it can be a 1st round pick that's exceeded expectations and was off the radar.

    personally, it would be between Scheifele, Morrissey and Hellebyuck, with goaltending being the great mystery re:ranking and development
     
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  2. The Spotless Mind

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    Not sure I understand what you mean...

    If you mean best pick in relation to draft order, then it has to be Helle.

    I'd choose Scheifele as simply the best pick otherwise.
     
  3. Gm0ney

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    I think Morrissey is the best bang-for-buck. 2nd best defenseman in that draft after Seth Jones. Wennberg's okay but there isn't really much in the way of great players after him.
     
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    If you mean bang for buck:

    Tier 1 Late round steal:
    Helle as a bonifide starting goalie who is likely top 10 at his position from the 5th round

    Tier 2: greatly exceed draft position.

    Scheifele (Franchise Center)
    Morrissey (Potential cornerstone defenseman)
    Connor (Potential all star winger)
    Lowry

    Tier 3:

    Ehlers
    Trouba
    Laine
     
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    1. Scheifele and it's really not even close, in my opinion.
    He's our best player, a true #1 center and an off the board pick at the time.

    2. Helle - 5th rounder. Amazing value

    3. Morrissey - #2 (at worst) d-man midway through the first - nice pick.

    4. Laine was a no-brainer of a pick and if we're being honest with ourselves and Scheifele was on another team would that team trade Scheifele for Laine? Absolutely no way.

    ....then the rest
     
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    Laine's probably going to be the best player he ever drafts, but that pick was a gimme. If we're evaluating Chevy's prowess at finding value for pick:

    1. Hellebuyck
    2. Schiefele
    3. Connor
     
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    Must have seen something special in Laine because he didn't pick Matthews. :sarcasm:

    But for real, it must be Scheifele. When you draft a player that caliber and can extend him with such a sweet deal, you have done something right. Imho Jets will be Mark's team and he will be the face of the franchise in the future. Laine might be the rockstar (and I really like him) but Scheifele will be the one most important Jet for a team success.
     
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    gotta be #55 off the board. lots had him in the second round.....and here we are with one of the very best.
     
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    Scheif was such a great pick, and we all had no idea how great at the time.
     
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    It would be interesting to have been privy to the conversations that surrounded the decision for the team to rank Scheifele as high as they did in 2011.

    In any case, I think we can thank Ducky for being our insider on that scoop. Thanks Dale. We owe you one.
     
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    Relative to draft, Lowry is not that far behind Helle .
     
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    I don't value goalies as high as everyone else here. I expect to hit on at least one later round starting calibre goalie in 8 years.
     
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    Answer to OP’s question

    His first one .....
     
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    Hellebuyck was the best value for pick acquisition, but goalies are voodoo so it's hard to give too much credit for the pick.

    I think that Scheifele and Morrissey were the best picks in terms of good scouting. Both were a bit risky and off the board, requiring considerable projection, but they have turned into top-end players with great attitudes.

    Ehlers and Connor were terrific value at their spots, but didn't take as much risk or projection to select them as Scheifele or Morrissey.

    Lowry was a very good sleeper pick in round 3.
     
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    Risk x Reward I'd say Schiefele
    Snipe is Bucky, but may end up Niku
     
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    Scheifele because where he was picked was a reach but turned into quite the steal. Scheifele now looks like he should've been picked first overall.
     
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    Kucherov is probably first, but Scheifele is certainly 2nd.
     
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    Scheifele hasn't finished writing that story yet.
     
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    Easily Scheifele.

    Most people I know went "WHOOOO? WE HAD COUTURIER!!!!!!"

    Very happy to eat those words.
     
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    These are the Chevy drafted players who have made it to the NHL so far. The values are my own estimations of where they should go in a re-draft. I considered position and role in addition to GP, G, A & Pts. I tried to be a little conservative to counter the built in 'homer bias'. Hellebuyck was hard to pin down because of being a goalie. But I figure a starter and Vezina candidate should be worth at least the lowest 1st rd pick.

    DraftPlayerActualValue
    2011Scheifele72
    Lowry6728
    2012Trouba94
    Hellebuyck13030
    2013Morrissey137
    Copp10421
    2014Ehlers93
    2015Connor179
    Roslovic2522
    2016Laine22
    AVG. 38.3 12.8

    Before you jump all over Copp being rated higher than Lowry, different draft classes. Also it reflects the different time since being drafted. In another couple of years there will be more offensively gifted players pass Copp by. It just shows that I rated scoring above 2 way play, position and checking roles which are more subjective.

    I tried to look at how many each player had leap-frogged and also how many had come from farther back to jump over our players. Not intended to be perfect, just a quick estimate, FWIW.
     
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    Neither has Kucherov. It will be interesting to see how it looks in another 5-10 years.
     
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    I think you were unfair to Mo. He looks top 5.
     
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    Awful tempting to do Helly but that may have been good fortune more than planning. If not, they would have grabbed him a lot earlier than the 5th round. Has to be Scheif.
     
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