Who are the "franchise" players in the league?

[ThirdManIn]

OK so let me see if I can tally up all of the poorly-defined adjectives we like to give to players just to make ourselves feel better when one or two of them are on our own team, or for the bottom of the list so we can use them to piss off fans of the teams we don't like:

Generational
Franchise Player
Elite
Superstar
All-star
Great
Good
Above-Average
Average
Mediocre
Underwhelming
Career AHLer
Lucic
Bust
Terrible
Talentless
Goon

What am I missing?

edit: Mods feel free to move this into its own thread if you think it can be its own discuss. thx

 

[ManofSteel55]

This. The word franchise, is being thrown way too loosely here.

A franchise, means a player you can build around and these are the players I would build my team around(I am a little hesitant on OV though.)

If you were to go by age, than there is only one, McDavid.

Franchise players and generational players are not the same thing.

 

[ManofSteel55]

OK so let me see if I can tally up all of the poorly-defined adjectives we like to give to players just to make ourselves feel better when one or two of them are on our own team, or for the bottom of the list so we can use them to piss off fans of the teams we don't like:

Generational
Franchise Player
Elite
Superstar
All-star
Great
Good
Above-Average
Average
Mediocre
Underwhelming
Career AHLer
Bust
Terrible
Talentless
Goon

What am I missing?

edit: Mods feel free to move this into its own thread if you think it can be its own discuss. thx

Minor leaguer?

 

[Braunbaer]

Surprised Seguin hasn't been mentioned.

That particular "franchise player" prefered getting wasted at night instead of performing in the playoffs.

 

[ThirdManIn]

Minor leaguer?

You caught me before the edit. I added "Career AHLer" and "Lucic"

 

[BrockLobster]

OK so let me see if I can tally up all of the poorly-defined adjectives we like to give to players just to make ourselves feel better when one or two of them are on our own team, or for the bottom of the list so we can use them to piss off fans of the teams we don't like:

Generational
Franchise Player
Elite
Superstar
All-star
Great
Good
Above-Average
Average
Mediocre
Underwhelming
Career AHLer
Lucic
Bust
Terrible
Talentless
Goon

What am I missing?

edit: Mods feel free to move this into its own thread if you think it can be its own discuss. thx

Talentless hack

 

[Viqsi]

OK so let me see if I can tally up all of the poorly-defined adjectives we like to give to players just to make ourselves feel better when one or two of them are on our own team, or for the bottom of the list so we can use them to piss off fans of the teams we don't like:

Generational
Franchise Player
Elite
Superstar
All-star
Great
Good
Above-Average
Average
Mediocre
Underwhelming
Career AHLer
Lucic
Bust
Terrible
Talentless
Goon

What am I missing?

edit: Mods feel free to move this into its own thread if you think it can be its own discuss. thx

Aren't you yourself a mod?

Also, "pylon" and "liability" come to mind.

 

[ThirdManIn]

Aren't you yourself a mod?

Also, "pylon" and "liability" come to mind.

I don't know how I forgot those two seeing as how I'm a Predators fan.

 

[djpatm]

Franchise/Superstar/Elite are the same thing.

Outside of that you have Generational and Very Good but not elite.

That's it.

 

[Kale Makar]

Franchise/Superstar/Elite are the same thing.

Outside of that you have Generational and Very Good but not elite.

That's it.

Franchise, Superstar, and Elite are in no way the same thing.

Franchise and Superstar maybe, but Elite is definitely a step below. Kuznetsov, Giroux, Voracek are elite, but they aren't Tarasenko, Crosby, Stamkos-type players that you would tailor your team's image to.

 

[Super Hans]

Colorado didn't lose three top-6 centers in the last 4 years if they weren't committed to MacKinnon being a franchise player (which he is).

 

[North Cole]

Why is there a "?" besides Karlsson? Surely you mean Melker, cause there is no doubt about Erik...

 

[Canada Drai]

McDavid
Crosby
Malkin
Kane (P)
Matthews
Karlsson
Boeser
Holtby

 

[BrodieOnTheCorner]

See's many lists without Gaudreau. Laughs.

Sees lists with Matthews, checks NHL scoring page, he's not even on the first page LOL. Franchise player that's not top 50 in scoring eh? What a star.

Maybe you need to check Points/GP considering Matthews has missed 8 games

 

[tntkid]

Scheifele is a franchise player on the Jets and the best player on the team.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Maybe you need to check Points/GP considering Matthews has missed 8 games

don't bother with him. 90% of his posts involve pointing out where players rank in points

 

[Jetcetera]

not matthews

 

[Section88]

Crosby, Kane, McDavid, Malkin, Ovechkin, Karlsson, Eichel, Matthews

 

[Martinez]

Getzlaf is a perfect example of a franchise player. Kane too

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

but if the criteria is a cornerstone player for a cup win, i don't think he'd be my first choice

So what if he's not the 1st choice? Lemieux is never going to be anyone's 1st choice over Gretzky, doesn't change that he was generational.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Crosby
McDavid
Karlsson
Ovechkin

/thread

Add Malkin and it's perfect.

 

[Rooh]

McDavid
Crosby
Kane
Karlsson
Malkin
Stamkos

 

[Emperoreddy]

Hall will be on most people’s franchise wing list by the end of this season.

 

[Chimpradamus]

I think the definition is pretty easy. A franchise player is the kind of player that can carry his team day in, day out, season after season and in the playoffs, on their own if they have to. They don't have to win a cup, especially not if they actually have to carry the team on their own. Alot of franchise players have the luxury of playing on a team with several franchise players and it's not fair to blame the lone franchise player on the worse team for not winning.

A generational player on the other hand is one of the best franchise players the game has ever seen. I'm surprised basically no goalies are considered franchise players, especially a guy like Lundqvist. He was the definition of a franchise goalie for over a decade and how quickly people write him off as "over the cliff". Especially considering how garbage the NYR defense is and that he's at the top of the league in high danger quality chances every season.

 

[Tage2Tuch]

Getzlaf is absolutely a franchise center. Did anyone watch the playoffs last year? BEAST. In every sense.

So dominant and usually always is around PPG.


Oh and Eichel was 11th in points per game last season. HIGHER then Auston Matthews.

As a 20 year old.......on a team that scored roughly 70-80 less then average....coming off a sprained ankle.

And finished 56th in scoring despite his season not starting until December 2016.

This year he is struggling and still has 28 points in 33 Games on a team that has scored only 74 times.

Some scouts had him ranked even higher then McDavid,


He's also helped Evander Kane become a PPG Player and makes ten million dollars a year.


Safe to say he's a franchise player.