Player Discussion Which forward would you waive?

[Le Barron de HF]

As the unofficial #1 hater of Mike Hoffman given how my last thread went and how I seemed to be in the minority with my idea of buying out his final year of contract. In a scenario where the following 12 players are your forwards:
1. Caufield
2. Suzuki
3. Dach
4. Gallagher
5. Monahan
6. Evans
7. Dvorak
8. Anderson
9. Slafkovsky
10. RHP
11. Ylonen
12. Pezzetta

Which of these two forwards would you waive and send to Laval between Joel Armia and Mike Hoffman?

Personally, I would lean on Armia and not for the obvious reasons of trying to maximize Hoffman's value (because I believe there won't be any suitors for a guy who can barely produce at half a point per game rate despite having soft minutes and plenty of PP time but I digress...). The reason why I'd waive Armia instead is for one: I think he'd be a better fit in Laval not only from a chemistry standpoint (I don't see Armia being the type of player to pout and become toxic unlike say Hoffman) but I also think he'd be a good mentor in the line-up to help some of our rookies like Heineman, Roy etc. but he can also play anywhere without hurting J-F Houle's decision making. Heck, who knows maybe it'd be the type of thing that could be beneficial for his confidence and him re-finding his game. Kind of like Luke Schenn where he rebuilt his game and came back stronger.

What are your thoughts? Who would you waive if that's the starting line up we are looking at?

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[the]

If it was possible I would have waived Gallagher.

 

[Miller Time]

Hoffman.

Armia is overpaid but useful. Hoffman just overpaid.

Plus Armia gets hurt every year, so just a matter of time before he's on IR

 

[Le Barron de HF]

If it was possible I would have waived Gallagher.

 

[Treb]

Waive Wideman and Pitlick, trade Edmundson and run 14 forwards.

 

[Ezpz]

Slaf can go without waivers. Whoever earns a spot at camp deserves their place.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Both.

 

[ryan callahan]

Waive Wideman and Pitlick, trade Edmundson and run 14 forwards.

Pitlick is more useful to the development of this hockey club than several of our vets. But since he's the easier one to let go, he'll definitely be the one waived.

 

[26Mats]

As the unofficial #1 hater of Mike Hoffman given how my last thread went and how I seemed to be in the minority with my idea of buying out his final year of contract. In a scenario where the following 12 players are your forwards:
1. Caufield
2. Suzuki
3. Dach
4. Gallagher
5. Monahan
6. Evans
7. Dvorak
8. Anderson
9. Slafkovsky
10. RHP
11. Ylonen
12. Pezzetta

Which of these two forwards would you waive and send to Laval between Joel Armia and Mike Hoffman?

Personally, I would lean on Armia and not for the obvious reasons of trying to maximize Hoffman's value (because I believe there won't be any suitors for a guy who can barely produce at half a point per game rate despite having soft minutes and plenty of PP time but I digress...). The reason why I'd waive Armia instead is for one: I think he'd be a better fit in Laval not only from a chemistry standpoint (I don't see Armia being the type of player to pout and become toxic unlike say Hoffman) but I also think he'd be a good mentor in the line-up to help some of our rookies like Heineman, Roy etc. but he can also play anywhere without hurting J-F Houle's decision making. Heck, who knows maybe it'd be the type of thing that could be beneficial for his confidence and him re-finding his game. Kind of like Luke Schenn where he rebuilt his game and came back stronger.

What are your thoughts? Who would you waive if that's the starting line up we are looking at?

It's a good issue to discuss.

But there will be more moves. So better to discuss it again once the team is made.

For now my answer is: both. I don't want MSL giving them ice time over young guys like RHP, Ylonen, Heineman, I even prefer Belzile.

 

[Redux91]

Delete

 

[Redux91]

But Why?

Because he's having trouble keeping up with Pezzetta in the scoring goals department.
For one

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Because he's having trouble keeping up with Pezzetta in the scoring goals department.
For one

Okay and what is the positive of sending a guy like him to the AHL not only in the room but also for any potential way to get out of his deal? Gallagher showed enough down the stretch to not get Andrew Ladd'd.

 

[Redux91]

Okay and what is the positive of sending a guy like him to the AHL not only in the room but also for any potential way to get out of his deal? Gallagher showed enough down the stretch to not get Andrew Ladd'd.

Fair enough from your point of view.
Myself I voted Hoffman,
I was giving the other poster his potential reason for bringing up the name Gallagher for this situation.

Another reason would of been possible durability and injury history and salary hindrance but, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole today thanks lol.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Fair enough from your point of view.
Myself I voted Hoffman,
I was giving the other poster his potential reason for bringing up the name Gallagher for this situation.

Another reason would of been possible durability and injury history and salary hindrance but, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole today thanks lol.

Without going down that rabbit hole how is a player that gets injured in AHL viewed for NHL teams as far as cap ramifications?

 

[CHfan1]

Since the Habs will most likely carry 14 forwards, 7 defencemen, and 2 goalies I’d keep Armia and Hoffman as the 13th and 14th forwards. They can be 2 of the 3 healthy scratches on most nights.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Since the Habs will most likely carry 14 forwards, 7 defencemen, and 2 goalies I’d keep Armia and Hoffman as the 13th and 14th forwards. They can be 2 of the 3 healthy scratches on most nights.

Depending on what happens with Allen. We may see a 3 headed monster and Primeau in Montreal.

 

[BLONG7]

If it was possible I would have waived Gallagher.

We have a few candidates............I perfectly understand why you say Gally, he has been beyond awful the last few seasons....................such an awful contract.

They may buy him out at some point, but no way do they waive him................it's gonna be Hoffman and when no one touches him, hopefully a couple of the kids have good camps and he can go to Laval.

 

[Scintillating10]

Can't we waive both

 

[BLONG7]

Depending on what happens with Allen. We may see a 3 headed monster and Primeau in Montreal.

The only head scratcher so far from Hughes.................giving Allen an extension, let alone more money to go with it................hopefully they can trade him and go wit the two kids in nets.

 

[calder candidate]

Armia might be frustrating because he should be able to produce more since he has the abilities to be the amongst the best player on the ice on any given night but even when he isn’t he isn’t a negative in the ice, he is reliable defensively and is hard to play against protecting or stealing pucks, is contract isn’t awful compared to other vet in the league. Hoffman if he isn’t scoring he just a waste of space I rather see Drouin than Hoffman.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Hoffman , armia sucks but at least he seems to be one of the *boys* , Hoffman is just random and turns it over like crazy

 

[SOLR]

As the unofficial #1 hater of Mike Hoffman given how my last thread went and how I seemed to be in the minority with my idea of buying out his final year of contract. In a scenario where the following 12 players are your forwards:
1. Caufield
2. Suzuki
3. Dach
4. Gallagher
5. Monahan
6. Evans
7. Dvorak
8. Anderson
9. Slafkovsky
10. RHP
11. Ylonen
12. Pezzetta

Which of these two forwards would you waive and send to Laval between Joel Armia and Mike Hoffman?

Personally, I would lean on Armia and not for the obvious reasons of trying to maximize Hoffman's value (because I believe there won't be any suitors for a guy who can barely produce at half a point per game rate despite having soft minutes and plenty of PP time but I digress...). The reason why I'd waive Armia instead is for one: I think he'd be a better fit in Laval not only from a chemistry standpoint (I don't see Armia being the type of player to pout and become toxic unlike say Hoffman) but I also think he'd be a good mentor in the line-up to help some of our rookies like Heineman, Roy etc. but he can also play anywhere without hurting J-F Houle's decision making. Heck, who knows maybe it'd be the type of thing that could be beneficial for his confidence and him re-finding his game. Kind of like Luke Schenn where he rebuilt his game and came back stronger.

What are your thoughts? Who would you waive if that's the starting line up we are looking at?

You know we need 14 forwards right? At any given time 1-2 are injured and Hoffman/Armia are still in our top 14. That's a problem if we want to compete sure, but right now it's not a problem at all. I rather play them, than have Roy/Kidney etc. play in the NHL too soon because they have to be called up. I also think we need all the cap space we can after this year. So no, no buyout.

 

[SOLR]

The only head scratcher so far from Hughes.................giving Allen an extension, let alone more money to go with it................hopefully they can trade him and go wit the two kids in nets.

Primeau seems like a bust at this point and he hasn't beat Allen out of a job. Primeau will be dealt and an AHL vet goalie will be hired to backup Dobes.

 

[vokiel]

Can't I waive both of them?

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Hoffman.

Armia is overpaid but useful. Hoffman just overpaid.

Plus Armia gets hurt every year, so just a matter of time before he's on IR

But he might be able to fetch the Habs a 7th at TDL from a dumb GM