Which Defence Corps Would You Trade Toronto’s For?

[Goose]

The “biggest hole the Leafs have is defence” argument is well established by now, though there seems to be a reverse tide of sorts these days to some extent.

Made me wonder which teams clearly have an advantage not only this year, but moving forward as well?

Which teams would you straight up swap all defenceman with? There are a couple that jump immediately to my mind (Nashville, SJ), just curious what your guys’ list would look like?

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[Prominence]

Anaheim. They are being held down by their system. Manson, lindholm, fowler.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Nashville (Josi, Subban, Ekholm, Ellis, Hamhuis, Weber/Irwin/Bitetto)

 

[BodaciousBeefBazooka]

I dont follow Carolina but dont they have solid dman we can trade for? Based on rumblings if Nylander wasn't able to resign and he was casted off in a trade?

 

[Advanced stats]

Carolina, Tampa, Aniheim Nashville

 

[Spirit of 67]

I'm sticking with the Draft and Develop model.

 

[zeke]

truth is, you lineup the dmen from best to worst:

1.Rielly
2.Gardiner
3.Dermott
4/5/6.Zaitsev/Hainsey/Ozzy

And it matches up better than most. Rielly is playing like a Norris contender, Jake like a borderline #1, Dermott like a very good 2nd pair dman, and the rest like typical 4/5/6 dmen.

And then you add in Sandin/Lillegren to the mix and realize that even fewer team's have 2 D prospects that good, and you realize that things are pretty dang good.

 

[ToneDog]

Jets

 

[zeke]

Jets

interesting.

I would say our top 3s are comparable (Trouba/Buff/Morrissey) , while our bottom 3 is better (Myers/Kulikov/Chiarot).

 

[ToneDog]

interesting.

I would say our top 3s are comparable (Trouba/Buff/Morrissey) , while our bottom 3 is better (Myers/Kulikov/Chiarot).

I'll take Myers/Kulikov/Chiarot over Hainsey, Z and Oz. The Jets D is more balanced and comes with the physicality and size needed in the playoffs.

 

[zeke]

I'll take Myers/Kulikov/Chiarot over Hainsey, Z and Oz. The Jets D is more balanced and comes with the physicality and size needed in the playoffs.

Myers is bad, kulikov is horrific.

Chiarot might be ok but probably not.

 

[Advanced stats]

I'll take Myers/Kulikov/Chiarot over Hainsey, Z and Oz. The Jets D is more balanced and comes with the physicality and size needed in the playoffs.

No way man,

Zaitsev = Myers
Hainsey > Kulikov
Oz >= Chairot

 

[LeafFever]

I'll take Myers/Kulikov/Chiarot over Hainsey, Z and Oz. The Jets D is more balanced and comes with the physicality and size needed in the playoffs.

I think people still like Myers because of the Calder a decade ago, but damn he stinks.

 

[zeke]

It's annoying because Maurice has done in WPG what many of us wish Babs would do here - play his quality 22/23yr old dman (morrissey/dermott) on the top pair.

 

[WilliamNylander]

I’d keep what we have. Don’t see many better especially when you factor in prospects and the system that we play.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

No way man,

Zaitsev = Myers
Hainsey > Kulikov
Oz >= Chairot

Chiarot is better then the other 5.
Myers is like our Gards he makes so many stupid game plays.
Kulikov well he fills the last spot

but OA Toronto has better offensive defense and Winnipeg has better defensive defense. I like Winnipeg's overall because they can harden in playoffs which is needed when time and space disappear in the playoffs when the refs throw away the whistle. The stronger guy wins in the playoffs when everyone fights for position on the ice. Skill is relegated down.

 

[TorontoTrades]

CBJ for Jones and Werenski alone.

 

[zeke]

Myers is like our Gards he makes so many stupid game plays.

no. not even close.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Chiarot is better then the other 5.
Myers is like our Gards he makes so many stupid game plays.
Kulikov well he fills the last spot

but OA Toronto has better offensive defense and Winnipeg has better defensive defense. I like Winnipeg's overall because they can harden in playoffs which is needed when time and space disappear in the playoffs when the refs throw away the whistle. The stronger guy wins in the playoffs when everyone fights for position on the ice. Skill is relegated down.

Myers is not even remotely close to as good as Gardiner

 

[nsleaf]

Not a current squad of course, but the 75/76 habs D group was pretty good.

 

[Mess]

The “biggest hole the Leafs have is defence” argument is well established by now, though there seems to be a reverse tide of sorts these days to some extent.

Made me wonder which teams clearly have an advantage not only this year, but moving forward as well?

Which teams would you straight up swap all defenceman with? There are a couple that jump immediately to my mind (Nashville, SJ), just curious what your guys’ list would look like?

TB, Winnipeg would both be at the top of my list ..

 

[Mr Hockey]

It's annoying because Maurice has done in WPG what many of us wish Babs would do here - play his quality 22/23yr old dman (morrissey/dermott) on the top pair.

Dermott gets schooled often defensively on the 3rd pairing, Morrissey is a legit top pairing dman already, big difference.

 

[The Iceman]

Nash, TB, Boston, Winnipeg, Calgary, Carolina, San Jose, Columbus, Washington, Anaheim, Minnesota. (Maybe Buffalo)

Now if you asked forwards the list would be very small.

 

[zeke]

Dermott gets schooled often defensively on the 3rd pairing, Morrissey is a legit top pairing dman already, big difference.

Agreed, there's a big difference in how their coaches use them. One dominates in 3rd pair usage, the other holds his own in top pair usage.

 

[ToneDog]

I think people still like Myers because of the Calder a decade ago, but damn he stinks.

You could be right. I don't watch too many Jets games but when I have, Myers has looked fine. Could also be that we watch too many Leaf games and put our guys under the microscope.