NFL: Which 5 Historic Trades are the Worst? Part One
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Blackhawkswincup
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Walker trade turned into disaster and built a dynasty so that will be #1
Bears trading a 1st round pick for Rick Mirer who already had busted and never threw TD pass with team should be a good choice for #2
Mike Phipps trade should be option as well
Bears traded a 1st + 4th for QB Mike Phipps who was terrible in Cleveland and had lost his starting job after a 4 TD and 19 INT season (The years before were terrible as well)
Bears trading a 1st round pick for Rick Mirer who already had busted and never threw TD pass with team should be a good choice for #2
Mike Phipps trade should be option as well
Bears traded a 1st + 4th for QB Mike Phipps who was terrible in Cleveland and had lost his starting job after a 4 TD and 19 INT season (The years before were terrible as well)
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Big Poppa Puck
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Russell Wilson trade is on a trajectory to be up there with Herschel Walker.
It’ll never reach that level. It sucks for Denver, but they didn’t lose as much as Minny did for Walker.
Another bad thing about the Elway trade is there were better offers on the table. Problem was the Colts were so chaotic, no one knew who to deal with: the GM Accorsi, the Coach Frank Kush or Bob Irsay.
In particular: Dallas was working Kush with an offer including his old ASU QB Danny White.
Broncos Owner Edgar Kaiser (who did not know football) found the correct angle to work and made the deal with (a no doubt shitfaced) Irsay in Vegas.
It is a shame for Chris Hinton being known for this since he was a great OT.
In particular: Dallas was working Kush with an offer including his old ASU QB Danny White.
Broncos Owner Edgar Kaiser (who did not know football) found the correct angle to work and made the deal with (a no doubt shitfaced) Irsay in Vegas.
It is a shame for Chris Hinton being known for this since he was a great OT.
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Terry Yake
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HWT will always be #1
obviously the elway and favre trades are up there
raiders dealing moss to NE for a 4th is pretty awful
we'll see if russ can rebound next season, but so far it's looking like that trade will end up pretty high on the list
obviously the elway and favre trades are up there
raiders dealing moss to NE for a 4th is pretty awful
we'll see if russ can rebound next season, but so far it's looking like that trade will end up pretty high on the list
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It can only reach that level if the Seahawks build a dynasty out of it. That’s what sets the Walker trade apart when it gets brought up.
The Saints traded their entire draft for Ricky Williams, plus another 1st (2nd overall!). That wasn’t a good trade. But WFT didn’t make a lot out of it, and neither did Chicago who actually got most of the picks.
I’ve brought this one up before:
Russ Washington made Five Pro Bowls. Fred Carr, Larry Csonka and Haven Moses were other notables who went in the next Five picks.
Domres didn’t amount to anything but Fred Dryer, Bill Stanfil and Rufus Mayes went in the next 5.
There’s a reason you’ve never heard of Steve Tensi.
Some other bad QB trades:
Jones had been carrying awful Colts teams and battling injuries for the past four years and fed up with Irsay (notice a pattern?)
Jones played four games for the Rams before injury forced him to retire.
Schliester was a high profile disaster thanks to his gambling addiction, but Jim McMahon, Mike Munchak, Gerald Riggs and Marcus Allen went in the top ten.
Stark had the most impact out of the trade: 6 time Pro Bowl punter.
Having lost the QB battle to Roger Staubach, the Giants trade in season for Craig Morton who leads the Giants to a 1-7 record down the stretch and hands an already contending Cowboys the #2 pick.
Morton stinks it up in the Meadowlands for two more seasons before the Giants just dump him on the Broncos where he turns it around and leads the Broncos to the Super Bowl and becomes the best QB and #7 in team history…to that point.
Randy White is a HOF DT with the Cowboys. Walter Payton, Robert Brazile and Gary Johnson go in the Top Ten as well.
Russ Washington made Five Pro Bowls. Fred Carr, Larry Csonka and Haven Moses were other notables who went in the next Five picks.
Domres didn’t amount to anything but Fred Dryer, Bill Stanfil and Rufus Mayes went in the next 5.
There’s a reason you’ve never heard of Steve Tensi.
Some other bad QB trades:
Jones had been carrying awful Colts teams and battling injuries for the past four years and fed up with Irsay (notice a pattern?)
Jones played four games for the Rams before injury forced him to retire.
Schliester was a high profile disaster thanks to his gambling addiction, but Jim McMahon, Mike Munchak, Gerald Riggs and Marcus Allen went in the top ten.
Stark had the most impact out of the trade: 6 time Pro Bowl punter.
Having lost the QB battle to Roger Staubach, the Giants trade in season for Craig Morton who leads the Giants to a 1-7 record down the stretch and hands an already contending Cowboys the #2 pick.
Morton stinks it up in the Meadowlands for two more seasons before the Giants just dump him on the Broncos where he turns it around and leads the Broncos to the Super Bowl and becomes the best QB and #7 in team history…to that point.
Randy White is a HOF DT with the Cowboys. Walter Payton, Robert Brazile and Gary Johnson go in the Top Ten as well.
It’s the Lindros trade of Football.
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I don't think people see the Lindros trade as lopsided, just that the Nordiques/Avalanche got the better of it, and because of it, got the better of later trades. The Vikings never were close to winning, but the Flyers were, and it only set back the franchise in the immediate and while it turned out that he wasn't even the best player in the trade, he was still a Hall of Famer, and for a time was still the best player in the league. Herschel was never any of those things.I’ve brought this one up before:
Russ Washington made Five Pro Bowls. Fred Carr, Larry Csonka and Haven Moses were other notables who went in the next Five picks.
Domres didn’t amount to anything but Fred Dryer, Bill Stanfil and Rufus Mayes went in the next 5.
There’s a reason you’ve never heard of Steve Tensi.
Some other bad QB trades:
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Jones had been carrying awful Colts teams and battling injuries for the past four years and fed up with Irsay (notice a pattern?)
Jones played four games for the Rams before injury forced him to retire.
Schliester was a high profile disaster thanks to his gambling addiction, but Jim McMahon, Mike Munchak, Gerald Riggs and Marcus Allen went in the top ten.
Stark had the most impact out of the trade: 6 time Pro Bowl punter.
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Having lost the QB battle to Roger Staubach, the Giants trade in season for Craig Morton who leads the Giants to a 1-7 record down the stretch and hands an already contending Cowboys the #2 pick.
Morton stinks it up in the Meadowlands for two more seasons before the Giants just dump him on the Broncos where he turns it around and leads the Broncos to the Super Bowl and becomes the best QB and #7 in team history…to that point.
Randy White is a HOF DT with the Cowboys. Walter Payton, Robert Brazile and Gary Johnson go in the Top Ten as well.
It’s the Lindros trade of Football.
But it's probably the best example of a trade involving one side getting an obscene amount of pieces and making them count.
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Well it’s the only trade that compares.
Lindros went to Philly which is exactly the one place that would overrate a player like him. He was absolutely a white elephant who metastasized into a team cancer. The Flyers were never able to surround with enough talent even with an absolute highway robbery of the LeClaire-Dejardin trade.
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It's all about the draft picks.
Cleveland got a haul for Julio Jones and did nothing.
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He wasn't a white elephant at all. He was arguably the best player in the league over a 5 year period and led them to a cup final. How is that a white elephant?
If anything he was a unicorn.
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I think its a tad unfair to list the Elway trade. He flat out refused to play for the Colts, its not like they wanted to trade him.
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No but they still passed up much better offers cause their organization was in chaos.
It’s the Walker trade in part for the stupidity of the Vikings throwing in all those conditional picks naively thinking Dallas would keep all their players and not take the picks lol
OJ finally forced a trade to California, where he proceeded to rack up 1000 total yards and 4 TDs in the final two seasons of his career. 1979 draft wasn't all that hot though. Dan Hampton and OJ Anderson the only notables in the top 10.
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
New GM had the "I am smartest guy" complex and went against common sense and then used nonsense "If you want a player you pay to get him"
There were several picks by him that were idiotic and absurd reaches. Another prime example was drafting TE Adam Shaheen 45th overall despite fact he was shitty blocker and couldn't catch anything
Don't forget the idiot also signed Mike Glennon to be #1 just months before while discarding a perfectly capable vet stopgap in Cutler who was already signed for cheap rate (At time he was near end of his contract into the value years)
He claimed he wanted fresh start to explain moving on from Cutler and that he loved Glennon as QB for years, yet he then traded up and drafted Trubisky
Voight
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