Which 2003 Draft Picks Re-enter the 2005 Draft

[operasen]

Both Carter and Richards from Philly would be high selections if the lockout went beyond May 05.

Who else is not signed. European league and college picks don't have a two year clause, but juniors do - who's potentially going back in?

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[degroat*]

Shawn Belle, Zach FitzGerald, Alexandre Bolduc

 

[Peter]

Both Carter and Richards from Philly would be high selections if the lockout went beyond May 05.

Who else is not signed. European league and college picks don't have a two year clause, but juniors do - who's potentially going back in?

You are using old CBA language and trying to apply it to a new CBA in the future. No one says that that rule is going to be included in the next CBA. In fact, I am hard pressed to believe that the owners and GM's would keep that particular rule in the new CBA. I personally think that the new CBA will get rid of that "two year rule" for unsigned draft picks so I don't think teams will have to worry.

That said, there obviously is some fear on the part of some GM's because we just saw a lot of teams hustle to sign their #1 picks before the CBA expired.

 

[The Pucks]

You are using old CBA language and trying to apply it to a new CBA in the future. No one says that that rule is going to be included in the next CBA. In fact, I am hard pressed to believe that the owners and GM's would keep that particular rule in the new CBA. I personally think that the new CBA will get rid of that "two year rule" for unsigned draft picks so I don't think teams will have to worry.

That said, there obviously is some fear on the part of some GM's because we just saw a lot of teams hustle to sign their #1 picks before the CBA expired.

The players were drafted under the old CBA, so there is a very good chance that they will still be under those rules if the strike continued past next june. If not, a legal case would be a strong possability.

 

[Gwyddbwyll]

I thought Philly signed those two and are just sending them back to juniors?

 

[blah]

Nope, they only signed Eager, Umberger, and Ruggeri. Carter and Richards are unsigned.

 

[MePutPuckInNet]

O'Sullivan is unsigned as well....and I just read this on TSN - interesting what Bob has to say.....sounds like this could be a royal mess for the unsigned 2003 guys TSN

 

[Booyah!]

Shawn Belle, Zach FitzGerald, Alexandre Bolduc

Fitzgerald hasn't signed with the Blues yet? Surprising

 

[gibber1600]

They have TWO years to sign these players anyways.

 

[degroat*]

They have TWO years to sign these players anyways.

2005 - 2003 = "TWO years".

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Using the current CBA system of course, here's my predictions from the Penguins...

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1 G Marc-Andre Fleury
32 C Ryan Stone
70 R Jonathan Filewich
73 L Daniel Carcillo
121 D Paul Bissonnette
161 Evgeny Isakov
169 D Lukas Bolf
199 G Andy Chiodo
229 C Stephen Dixon
232 Joe Jensen
263 F Matt Moulson

The only players that we have to worry about are Stone, Filewich, Carcillo, Dixon and Bissonnette. Fleury and Chiodo are already signed, Bolf & Isakov are Europeans, and Jensen and Moulson are collegiate players. I just can't see any of them not being signed.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Minnesota:
Patrick O'Sullivan
Georgi Misharin
Mathieu Melanson
Jean-Michel Bolduc
Adam Courchaine
Marcin Kolusz

Will most likely end up back in the draft or FAs because of Minnesota's incompetance to sign prospects when money is involved...

 

[chriss_co]

If it turns out the 2003 prospects will reenter the draft, there are so many 2003 top prospects that will re-enter that teams that lose a prospect may get a better one or of equal value when its their turn to draft.

 

[DW]

Will most likely end up back in the draft or FAs because of Minnesota's incompetance to sign prospects when money is involved...

Yeah, clearly that's the case.

 

[McDonald19]

2003 first round:

unsigned CHL:{let me know if any of them have been signed}

Jeff Carter (11th Philadelphia), Brent Seabrook (14th Chicago), Steve Bernier (16th San Jose), Eric Fehr (18th Washington), Marc-Antoine Pouliot Edmonton (22nd Edmonton), Mike Richards (24th Philadelphia), Shawn Belle (30th St. Louis-traded to Dallas).

top 10 have all been signed.

5 NCAA's unsigned.

1 European unsigned.

 

[#2]

If the 2003 unsigned draftees re-enter the draft the 2005 draft will be One Hell of a Draft!

 

[User571]

Both Carter and Richards from Philly would be high selections if the lockout went beyond May 05.

Who else is not signed. European league and college picks don't have a two year clause, but juniors do - who's potentially going back in?

Carter and Richards arent going anywhere.

 

[montreal]

If there's no season, there's no draft to reenter.

 

[bubbabalue]

R.J. Umberger is a greedy money whore

 

[blah]

Can't wait to see what he can do on the Phantoms.

 

[Chimaera]

No way Eric Fehr is not signed.

 

[X-SHARKIE]

This hole talk is BS IMO. Do you really think that the Flyers,Blackhawks,Sharks,Capitals ,Lightning,Wild,Penguins, are going to let their prospects walk?

 

[Pelle31]

The players were drafted under the old CBA, so there is a very good chance that they will still be under those rules if the strike continued past next june. If not, a legal case would be a strong possability.

If that's the case then the NHL owners can agrue that all contracts lose one year on existing agreements. If there is no hockey past May/05, that means there is no hockey draft, so how can those players go back into the draft.

 

[Rather Gingerly 1*]

You are using old CBA language and trying to apply it to a new CBA in the future. No one says that that rule is going to be included in the next CBA. In fact, I am hard pressed to believe that the owners and GM's would keep that particular rule in the new CBA. I personally think that the new CBA will get rid of that "two year rule" for unsigned draft picks so I don't think teams will have to worry.

I think because they were originally drafted under the old CBA, they can re-enter. The same with any player contracts signed under the old CBA. The old terms still apply as long as the contract runs.

 

[Rather Gingerly 1*]

If there's no season, there's no draft to reenter.

There has to be a draft unless the lockout stretches into multiply seasons.