Which 2003 Draft Picks Re-enter the 2005 Draft

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  1. operasen

    operasen Registered User

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    Both Carter and Richards from Philly would be high selections if the lockout went beyond May 05.

    Who else is not signed. European league and college picks don't have a two year clause, but juniors do - who's potentially going back in?
     
  2. degroat*

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    Shawn Belle, Zach FitzGerald, Alexandre Bolduc
     
  3. Peter

    Peter Registered User

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    You are using old CBA language and trying to apply it to a new CBA in the future. No one says that that rule is going to be included in the next CBA. In fact, I am hard pressed to believe that the owners and GM's would keep that particular rule in the new CBA. I personally think that the new CBA will get rid of that "two year rule" for unsigned draft picks so I don't think teams will have to worry.

    That said, there obviously is some fear on the part of some GM's because we just saw a lot of teams hustle to sign their #1 picks before the CBA expired.
     
  4. The Pucks

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    The players were drafted under the old CBA, so there is a very good chance that they will still be under those rules if the strike continued past next june. If not, a legal case would be a strong possability.
     
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    I thought Philly signed those two and are just sending them back to juniors?
     
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    Nope, they only signed Eager, Umberger, and Ruggeri. Carter and Richards are unsigned.
     
  7. MePutPuckInNet

    MePutPuckInNet Registered User

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    O'Sullivan is unsigned as well....and I just read this on TSN - interesting what Bob has to say.....sounds like this could be a royal mess for the unsigned 2003 guys TSN
     
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    Fitzgerald hasn't signed with the Blues yet? Surprising :dunno:
     
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    They have TWO years to sign these players anyways.
     
  10. degroat*

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    2005 - 2003 = "TWO years".
     
  11. Big McLargehuge

    Big McLargehuge Big McBjugstad

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    Using the current CBA system of course, here's my predictions from the Penguins...

    None

    1 G Marc-Andre Fleury
    32 C Ryan Stone
    70 R Jonathan Filewich
    73 L Daniel Carcillo
    121 D Paul Bissonnette
    161 Evgeny Isakov
    169 D Lukas Bolf
    199 G Andy Chiodo
    229 C Stephen Dixon
    232 Joe Jensen
    263 F Matt Moulson

    The only players that we have to worry about are Stone, Filewich, Carcillo, Dixon and Bissonnette. Fleury and Chiodo are already signed, Bolf & Isakov are Europeans, and Jensen and Moulson are collegiate players. I just can't see any of them not being signed.
     
  12. thestonedkoala

    thestonedkoala Everyone! PANIC!

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    Minnesota:
    Patrick O'Sullivan
    Georgi Misharin
    Mathieu Melanson
    Jean-Michel Bolduc
    Adam Courchaine
    Marcin Kolusz

    Will most likely end up back in the draft or FAs because of Minnesota's incompetance to sign prospects when money is involved...
     
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    If it turns out the 2003 prospects will reenter the draft, there are so many 2003 top prospects that will re-enter that teams that lose a prospect may get a better one or of equal value when its their turn to draft.
     
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    Yeah, clearly that's the case. :shakehead
     
  15. McDonald19

    McDonald19 Tanking for Hughes

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    unsigned CHL:{let me know if any of them have been signed}

    Jeff Carter (11th Philadelphia), Brent Seabrook (14th Chicago), Steve Bernier (16th San Jose), Eric Fehr (18th Washington), Marc-Antoine Pouliot Edmonton (22nd Edmonton), Mike Richards (24th Philadelphia), Shawn Belle (30th St. Louis-traded to Dallas).

    top 10 have all been signed.

    5 NCAA's unsigned.

    1 European unsigned.
     
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    If the 2003 unsigned draftees re-enter the draft the 2005 draft will be One Hell of a Draft!
     
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    Carter and Richards arent going anywhere.
     
  18. montreal

    montreal Go Habs Go

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    If there's no season, there's no draft to reenter.
     
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    R.J. Umberger is a greedy money ****e
     
  20. blah

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    :lol:

    Can't wait to see what he can do on the Phantoms.
     
  21. Chimaera

    Chimaera same ol' Caps

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    No way Eric Fehr is not signed.
     
  22. X-SHARKIE

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    This hole talk is BS IMO. Do you really think that the Flyers,Blackhawks,Sharks,Capitals ,Lightning,Wild,Penguins, are going to let their prospects walk?
     
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    If that's the case then the NHL owners can agrue that all contracts lose one year on existing agreements. If there is no hockey past May/05, that means there is no hockey draft, so how can those players go back into the draft.
     
  24. I think because they were originally drafted under the old CBA, they can re-enter. The same with any player contracts signed under the old CBA. The old terms still apply as long as the contract runs.
     
  25. There has to be a draft unless the lockout stretches into multiply seasons.
     
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