Where does this season rank in Ovechkin’s career?

[Tofveve]

North of middle.

 

[Zuluss]

He leads the team in goals and points, first time in how many years?

The only years when Ovechkin did not lead Caps in points during his career were the last two years. Funnily enough, he led Caps in points even in 11/12, when he had 65 points, because Backstrom was injured for half of that season.

It’s most likely going to be his most scoring season in terms of points since 2010 (crazy)!

The scoring is up, 81 in 14/15 were clearly better than 81 points this year.

 

[third man in]

I would say 6th-best or 7th-best, behind 2007-2010, 12/13, 14/15. Not sure about his rookie season.
Kind of gives you an idea how good Ovechkin is/was, if this season is around the median in his 13-season career so far.

His rookie season should get more love. The team was hot garbage with no good defenseman and he was on the top line with Zubrus and Chris Clark.

 

[daver]

#6, but it could move to #5 depending on these last 9 games.

07-08
08-09
09-10
12-13
14-15
17-18
05-06
06-07
13-14
15-16
10-11
16-17
11-12

That one should be 5th at least.

 

[The Shovel Penguin]

All things considered he gained a lot of my respect this year as far as his character as a player. I respected him before, but after all the talk about how bad the Caps were going to be and how he would either leave for Russia, be traded, or just stay but start to give up and decline, he got into great shape and has had a great year. I just really respect his loyalty to his team and that "won't quit" attitude from him. So this season in particular will stand out to me and rank pretty high as far as how I will remember him.

 

[um]

That one should be 5th at least.

All the ones (besides this season) got Hart wins/nominations. I do think its close though, which one would you bump down?

 

[Fixxer]

I think close to Top-5. In terms of Regular Seasons of course. More or less successful playoffs (at least EC Finals) may put it even higher, at least higher than 12/13 season, that was a miserable post-season run.

God Tier
07/08: 82, 65+47=112. Hart, Art Ross, Richard, Lindsay
08/09: 79, 56+54=110. Hart, Richard, Lindsay
09/10: 72, 50+59=109. Lindsay

Hartworthy
12/13: 48, 32+24= 56. Hart, Richard
14/15: 81, 53+28= 81. Richard
17/18: 73, 44+37= 81. Richard? Hart nomination?

Good ‘Ol Days
05/06: 81, 52+54=106. Calder
06/07: 82, 46+46= 92.

At least with Richard
13/14: 78, 51+28= 79. Richard
15/16: 79, 50+21= 71. Richard

Learning defence
10/11: 79, 32+53= 85.
11/12: 78, 38+27= 65.

Low point
16/17: 82, 33+36= 69.

P.S. Changed it to tiers, that way it's more accurate.

I just fixed the assists of 12/13 and 14/15. It just messed with my head. lol

I see it in the Hart-worthy season too. It's up there. He's been working on his skating... IIRC, he lost some weight to be lighter this year. It's not like the old time hockey.. it's more based on speed and he ain't getting younger... but he still is Elite for sure!!!

 

[Admiral Awesome]

Better than '12 and '17 for sure

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Not in any order, seasons that are definitely better:

07/08
08/09
09/10
12/13
14/15

Definitely better than:
06/07
10/11
11/12
13/14
15/16
16/17

Debatable either way:
05/06

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

It's just another season that will add to his legacy that will rival Marcel Dionne as the best player ever not to win a stanley cup.

McDavid will be up there too, don’t worry

 

[Chet Manley]

Not in any order, seasons that are definitely better:

07/08
08/09
09/10
12/13
14/15

Definitely better than:
06/07
10/11
11/12
13/14
15/16
16/17

Debatable either way:
05/06

I vote for better than 05/06. That season had a lot of PPs and points scored as defences adjusted to rule changes following the lockout. And OV is a better all around player now.

 

[glovesave_35]

Dionne played for one of the worst team in the league. Kings were terrible while Ovechkins Washington has consistently gotten +40 wins most years. If we want a fair comparison era adjustment wont be enough.

I personally also believe Ovechkin is the better player but to say that he is so clear cut better it's not worth discussing is hardly true.

I really don't like this argument. Ovechkin was a 1st overall pick. He went to a terrible team. He was the biggest reason they became consistently good.

 

[Mickey Marner]

6th.

07/08
09/10
08/09
05/06
06/07
17/18
14/15
12/13
10/11
15/16
13/14
11/12
16/17

 

[Zuluss]

His rookie season should get more love. The team was hot garbage with no good defenseman and he was on the top line with Zubrus and Chris Clark.

Yes, being top3 in both goals and points (which is what OV did in 05/06) is a big thing.
Right now, I'd also say 05/06 was probably better. If OV finishes strong, wins the Rocket and is nominated for Hart, I will reconsider.

 

[Seanaconda]

Career ? Not high for him.

 

[HenrikW]

McDavid will be up there too, don’t worry

Definately unlikely that McD wins as an Oiler. He'll be UFA by the time he's 29 though, and could have a decent chance to sign for that cup-winning team.

Ovechkin on the other hand will be what, 35,36 by the time he's UFA. This was his cup-winning contract, and it's starting to seem like Washington is running out of chances. There's been 2-4 seasons now when Caps "should" have had it, when they have been the best team but haven't been able to clinch. They can't possibly get better goaltending then what they've had in their last couple of runs. Just haven't had the clutch games... Kind of like Vancouver, although Canucks actually got to a game 7 in their dominating years

Caps hopes aren't done for, but they need to make it happen now or the next years... And other teams simply seem to push harder and more aggressively in trades etc. Tampa, Predators etc

 

[Seanaconda]

Definately unlikely that McD wins as an Oiler. He'll be UFA by the time he's 29 though, and could have a decent chance to sign for that cup-winning team.

Ovechkin on the other hand will be what, 35,36 by the time he's UFA. This was his cup-winning contract, and it's starting to seem like Washington is running out of chances. There's been 2-4 seasons now when Caps "should" have had it, when they have been the best team but haven't been able to clinch. Kind of like Vancouver, although Canucks actually got to a game 7 in their dominating years

Not really fair to wash when they have to play the pens every year

 

[HenrikW]

Not really fair to wash when they have to play the pens every year

Definately not, but at some point they need to beat that team to win

 

[The Panther]

Definately unlikely that McD wins as an Oiler.

Wait... Why?

 

[HenrikW]

I really don't like this argument. Ovechkin was a 1st overall pick. He went to a terrible team. He was the biggest reason they became consistently good.

That's true at the same time it isn't. In the season immediately before the lockout season sure, they were the worst, but in the stretch of 5 years prior to him joining they had a 39, 41 and a 44 win season

It is true that Ovechkin is the major reason that they've been a contender, you'd think they could have done well if they had Malkin instead though.

 

[HenrikW]

Wait... Why?

If you're a fan you can't have missed how badly our management has squandered assets and value in trades and signings. We're set so far back it's heartbreaking. This thread is not about us but Ovechkin though.

 

[glovesave_35]

That's true at the same time it isn't. In the season immediately before the lockout season sure, they were the worst, but in the stretch of 5 years prior to him joining they had a 39, 41 and a 44 win season

It is true that Ovechkin is the major reason that they've been a contender, you'd think they could have done well if they had Malkin instead though.

Well right. But that last bit about Malkin doesn't really make sense with what we are talking about. Washington was bad enough to get to choose Ovechkin or Malkin. Either player would have helped the Caps dramatically.

They still weren't anything to write home about in the years prior but you are right that they weren't miserable for ages.

 

[Seanaconda]

If you're a fan you can't have missed how badly our management has squandered assets and value in trades and signings. We're set so far back it's heartbreaking. This thread is not about us but Ovechkin though.

8 years is a long time

 

[The Panther]

If you're a fan you can't have missed how badly our management has squandered assets and value in trades and signings. We're set so far back it's heartbreaking. This thread is not about us but Ovechkin though.

It's one season a bit disappointing. Chill.

 

[HenrikW]

Well right. But that last bit about Malkin doesn't really make sense with what we are talking about. Washington was bad enough to get to choose Ovechkin or Malkin. Either player would have helped the Caps dramatically.

They still weren't anything to write home about in the years prior but you are right that they weren't miserable for ages.

That's what I mean. Either player could probably turn the franchise around