SirLoinOfCloth
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Kadri broke our expectations of what a 2C is. JTC has been a middling 2C. Kadri was a 1C playing on the second line.
Would have been better if they could add a 2C and push Compher to 3C. Then the C depth looks a ton better. Alas they did nothing.JTC is scoring at 60 point pace this year. That’s a decent 2C production, but again, if he can keep it up and do the same in the playoffs. There are just more “IFs” this year compared to last year
Absolutely. That’s what we should worry about. Injuries, because like I said, if completely healthy, that line up doesn’t look bad. I just have doubts about being healthy because they haven’t been all year and it continues to be an issueWould have been better if they could add a 2C and push Compher to 3C. Then the C depth looks a ton better. Alas they did nothing.
Yah man. Our 2C got injured last playoffs and Compher filled in. Now if Compher gets injured who fills in there? Lars Eller? Newhook lol.Absolutely. That’s what we should worry about. Injuries, because like I said, if completely healthy, that line up doesn’t look bad. I just have doubts about being healthy because they haven’t been all year and it continues to be an issue
At that point they just have to put Mikko at C. Can’t go with Eller. Also ERod has gone cold so…..Newhook too inconsistent, it’s gotta be MikkoYah man. Our 2C got injured last playoffs and Compher filled in. Now if Compher gets injured who fills in there? Lars Eller? Newhook lol.
The only sinking I feel is in my heart, because I know we can't win with him as our 2C. Cmac f***ed up and it's going to cost this franchise. The assets we held onto today will only keep us in a playoff position without actually winning a cup. Terrible f***ing year. Nothing but injury and disappointment.While the JTC era officially began in the fall, I think a few more of y'all are starting to feel it sinking in now, eh?
Landeksog - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Compher - Rantanen
Newhook - Eller - Rodrigues
Cogliano - Helm - LOC
Nieto
Byram - Makar
Toews - Girard
Manson - EJ
JJ
Georgiev
Compher needs Rantanen imo. He can do the job if he’s got moose. That 4th line was great in the playoffs last year, so I’d go back to it. I’d be tempted to put Rodrigues at 3C just to try and get him going, but that shifts things around a lot.
Bednar always has the defence in a constant blender, so it won’t really matter what we put for pairings.
Landeskog - Mackinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Compher - Rantanen
O'Connor - Newhook - Rodriguez
Cogliano - Eller - Helm
Nieto/Malgin
Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - E. Johnson
J. Johnson
Georgiev
Francouz
There's only 5 players that played for the Avs last playoffs that aren't on the team now: Kadri, Burakovski, Sturm, Aube-Kubel, and Kuemper.
Eller <<< Kadri
Rodriguez < Burakovski
Nieto > Aube-Kubel
Malgin > Sturm
Georgiev >> Kuemper
If the Avs are healthy, they aren't that far off from last post-season.
No one was expecting a 90pt C to be added. I mean the board was literally asking for a Kevin Hayes level player to fill the hole.Kadri broke our expectations of what a 2C is. JTC has been a middling 2C. Kadri was a 1C playing on the second line.
Sturm has 12 goals and 20 points for the Sharks. Not sure why it didn’t work out on the AvsLandeskog - Mackinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Compher - Rantanen
O'Connor - Newhook - Rodriguez
Cogliano - Eller - Helm
Nieto/Malgin
Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - E. Johnson
J. Johnson
Georgiev
Francouz
There's only 5 players that played for the Avs last playoffs that aren't on the team now: Kadri, Burakovski, Sturm, Aube-Kubel, and Kuemper.
Eller <<< Kadri
Rodriguez < Burakovski
Nieto > Aube-Kubel
Malgin > Sturm
Georgiev >> Kuemper
If the Avs are healthy, they aren't that far off from last post-season.
He was snakebitten at first and then moved to the 4th line where he couldn't really produce offensively.Sturm has 12 goals and 20 points for the Sharks. Not sure why it didn’t work out on the Avs
It's not about expectations, it's about who others teams have in that spot that Compher will be competing against:Kadri broke our expectations of what a 2C is. JTC has been a middling 2C. Kadri was a 1C playing on the second line.
How do we afford the cap hit for a 2C when there's no guarantee we have anyone on LTIR at the end of the season? Landy and Manson are most likely back before the season finishes, and EJ could be if his broken ankle is a 6 week heal rather than an 8+ one. No one on this forum knows at all what our LTIR prognosis is. CMac likely does.It's not about expectations, it's about who others teams have in that spot that Compher will be competing against:
Vegas - William Karlsson
Edmonton - Leon Draisaitl
L.A - Phillip Danault
Winnipeg - Mark Scheifele
Boston - David Krejci
NYR - Vincent Trocheck
Toronto - John Tavares
Tampa Bay - Anthony Cirelli
New Jersey - Nico Hischier
I don't think Compher wins any of those matchups. I think he beats out guys like Kotkaniemi (Carolina), Seguin (Dallas), and whoever Minnesota/Seattle have on their 2nd lines. That's not a lot, though.
It's not about expectations, it's about who others teams have in that spot that Compher will be competing against:
Vegas - William Karlsson
Edmonton - Leon Draisaitl
L.A - Phillip Danault
Winnipeg - Mark Scheifele
Boston - David Krejci
NYR - Vincent Trocheck
Toronto - John Tavares
Tampa Bay - Anthony Cirelli
New Jersey - Nico Hischier
I don't think Compher wins any of those matchups. I think he beats out guys like Kotkaniemi (Carolina), Seguin (Dallas), and whoever Minnesota/Seattle have on their 2nd lines. That's not a lot, though.
Absolutely LTIR would have been used. You seriously think if the Avs traded for a legitimate 2C they wouldn't just keep EJ on LTIR for an additional couple of weeks to recover from his ankle injury? It's a broken ankle.How do we afford the cap hit for a 2C when there's no guarantee we have anyone on LTIR at the end of the season? Landy and Manson are most likely back before the season finishes, and EJ could be if his broken ankle is a 6 week heal rather than an 8+ one. No one on this forum knows at all what our LTIR prognosis is. CMac likely does.
People seem to be assuming that we had a shit load of LTIR cap we could use, but the chances are we could in fact have zero. So to bring in a top 2C (I'm also unsure of which ones were even available) would involve shipping out salary too. Moving Compher or Girard seemed to be the best candidates to afford a 2C but both of those moves don't improve our depth at all. If Compher goes our forward depth stays as it is. If Girard goes our D depth sucks.
Of course it's a team game, but the centre position is so critical in the game of hockey for a reason. You're asking J.T. Compher to play upwards of 20 minutes per night. He's not that caliber of player, never has been and never will be.That’s fair, but how does Rantanen fair against the wings on their lines? How does Makar matchup against opposing teams number one defenceman? How does Georgiev fair against the goaltenders in the West?
It’s a team game.
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Lando-JTC-Rants
Hook-Eller-ERod
Nieto-Cogs-LOC
Malgin, Helm
Toews-Makar
Bo-Manson
G-EJ
JJ
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