SterlingArcher
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Unless a two-C is added through trade so across lots down in the third line role he will be with us.
100% unless a #2C is added through trade.
MacT has shown that he never wants to rush a prospect, and I would assume that goes double for a critical prospect. As a team, Gagner gave us a hard lesson in rushing a player, and we've also learned from our high end prospects that an 18 year old player is usually nothing special even if they play well.
Nurse was good enough to make the team last year. He was a standout during TC and the pre-season. He was still sent down. I have no doubt that Draisaitl has a very slim chance at making the team too. He could make it, but only if he absolutely dominates in the early going and proves that his weaknesses were over stated. I wouldn't be surprised if he got his 9 game audition this year. Nurse too.
It would be a good plan to have both make the team for the start of the 2015-16 season.
They have no choice but to play Draisaitl. MacT has stated on many occasion that he wants to roll with 3 scoring lines which leads me to believe that Gordon will almost assuredly be on the 4th line. If the pursuit of a #2C fails which it seems that it has then it's Arcobello and Draisaitl as the #2 and #3 centers. There's absolutely no competition for those spots.
Nurse is a different story because they had prospect depth at that position and could afford to send him down.
The Oilers don't have anybody else in the system that could be considered a scoring center so unless something miraculous happens and MacT is able to land a #2 and #3 center, Draisaitl is the expected #3C unless he looks nowhere near NHL ready in the preseason.
He will have to prove that he is not NHL ready as opposed to having to prove that he is NHL ready is that makes any sense. It's his job to lose at least based on what MacT has been saying about him probably making the roster and wanting 3 scoring lines.
It appears that, once again, MacT is going into the season with a glaring hole at center and will be forced into playing players into roles that they aren't equipped to handle.
The only reason that Nurse didn't have a spot was that MacT went out and got a bunch of marginal D like Grebeshkov, Larsen, and Belov. My guess is that we will see similar moves. Maybe it will be Mueller.
I believe that is likely.
I doubt that Mueller keeps Draisaitl off the roster, he's just as big a question mark since he hasn't played in the NHL in a while and I believe played wing in his last NHL season.
I think MacT goes the trade route to bring in a center if anything. No half measures. I think he's either looking for a legit #2C or just be content with Arcobello. Even if he does bring in a #2C, Draisaitl will still likely make the roster as the #3C. The depth is still poor even with the addition of a #2, that's how poor the overall center depth is.
As far as Nurse is concerned, I don't believe that he was ever close to making the roster last season. I think they always had plans on sending him down, he was just too far down the depth chart (even if it was crap depth). And as we saw with Joensuu, preseason means virtually nothing as far as regular season readiness is concerned.
We had a similar set up with Nurse though. We just ditched Whitney and the obvious hole in the lineup was a LHD to play with Schultz. MacT could have use Nurse, or even Klefbom. Instead he went out and brought in that depth. This was likely done specifically to keep those two young D off the roster.
The only difference with Draisaitl is that we haven't brought in those place holder players yet, but the summer is far from over. We acquired Grebeshkov at about this time last year.
As a team, Gagner gave us a hard lesson in rushing a player
It's not so cut and dry to think that Gagner would have been a better player had he been given another year or two in Junior.
I don't think so and I've seen this conversation drawn out many times and I know I'm not the only one.
Personally think that LD should be sent back for financial and long term reasons, to postpone his contract to ensure the years that we are paying him are the most beneficial to the team.
That said I think he'll do fine centering a sheltered line but that might hurt in 3 years time when we trying to decide how to extend him.
Gagner was also given crappy line mates in the NHL, which compounded the issue.
Drouin will be a good comparable for Gagner. Both put up 2 ppg in the CHL, but both had really good linemates (Kane, Mackinnon). Drouin was left to develop, Gagner was not
If LD is stuck with Purcell and Pouliot, well see ya later development. If he has Perron/Eberle/Hall, hell fair off better
Well it certainly is not rare for a top 3 draft pick (in fact complete opposite) to be in the NHL the very next year, considering his size wont hold him back, it would be more of a surprise if he didn't play in the NHL next year. Just look back over the last 5 or 6 drafts.
Way too high for my liking
Figures crossed Yakimov comes out of nowhere and can play 2c to a degree so LD can go to junior.