What's the correlation between hockey IQ and real life IQ?

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[1967th Heaven]

Saw an interview with Marner when he was with the Knights and he didn't know how many provinces there were in Canada and thought the population of London Ontario (where he played!!!) was 30,000... maybe not the greatest measures of general IQ but like come on dude

 

[Laineux]

If you're a vegetable in real life then you cannot have a high hockey IQ.

I think you can be way below average IQ and still instinctually understand the game well and have a high hockey IQ. I think there's some correlation, but not much.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

@DominikBokkFan can give you a good answer as well as some examples from the Predators

 

[boredmale]

As an Islanders fan Tavares never struck me as the sharpest knife in the drawer in his interviews but his on ice hockey IQ is off the charts

 

[boredmale]

Slightly old article(2015)

Top 15 Smartest NHL Players

But George Parros is rated #2 in terms off ice IQ

 

[paulmm3]

Voted 0%. I don't know enough about too many hockey players intelligence-wise off the ice. But in the NFL, Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard but was one of the dumbest on field QBs I've seen play. Horrible reads and horrible decision making. No reason to think it's not similar in a different sport.

Also, the guy above me has a good example - Parros went to Princeton but certainly wasn't any McDavid in terms of hockey IQ

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Zach Hyman writes children’s books in his off time, is a rl gud pro and a rl gud family man


That’s gotta count for something... right?

 

[TheDoldrums]

Saw an interview with Marner when he was with the Knights and he didn't know how many provinces there were in Canada and thought the population of London Ontario (where he played!!!) was 30,000... maybe not the greatest measures of general IQ but like come on dude

lol, he was the first guy I thought of when I saw the thread. Love Mitch but I think he would have a wide range between hockey IQ and "real life" IQ.

I don't really think there's much correlation between hockey sense and what we view as traditional intelligence.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

No correlation unless proven otherwise would be my answer.

 

[BlueDream]

I think it's very close to 0%. There's just not much correlation. Knowing a lot about math or history or whatever 'book smart' type stuff doesn't help you in the game of hockey when you're on the ice thinking quick. It's a game that you either understand how to succeed at or you don't.

A good player example here is Jaden Schwartz. Very high hockey IQ, great all-around player. Does everything right. But apparently he's real-life dumb lol, and his teammates have said as much. Someone (I think maybe Burnside or LeBrun? I forget) actually wrote an article on him and touched on this subject. His teammates love him but were giving quotes and laughing about some of the things he asks them and they're just like "...are you serious?" For example, this was included in the article, he asked if Billy Joel used to play for the Rangers when they were at MSG.

 

[boredmale]

Only way I can see high IQ benefiting your play would be if you have strong STEM skills(especially physics). Being an A++++ English major won't do much for your game, other then maybe make you great at dishing out insults.

 

[Jarey Curry]

Not much but its you can not be a Forrest Gump irl and be Gretzky on the ice. Somewhat 30-40% correlation would be close

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

I was gonna say 0% but the Forrest Gump point above kind of made me change my mind. If youre diagnosed with a mental handicap that affects your IQ in a way that youre, just throwing a number out there, in the bottom 1%, then your hockey IQ would maybe be kind of low.

Im not an expert on these things so my mind is open to be changed.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

It depends on what specific IQ you have. For example if you're mathematically intelligent, it helps you on the ice, but you won't be as good as a guy with high spatial intellect even if you have an overall higher IQ in real life.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

There is no correlation whatsoever. I have seen it all through multiple kids in minor hockey and it just doesn't follow any pattern I can discern. Maybe I have low IQ though.

 

[Castle8130]

Real life iq isn't determined by how much knowledge you have in your brain, but the ability to understand how things and the world work. I would imagine they are very similar. Some people naturally have hockey sense and others don't, but the ability to recognize what your natural instincts tell you (natural hockey sense) and what good hockey sense is, is impressive.

 

[ijuka]

Depends on what you consider IQ. I'd say that what correlates is what we might call "common sense". And that's completely different from academic knowledge. A person can be terrible at school but still have great thoughts, ideas and opinions on things. What's important is being able to anticipate the flow of the game intuitively and being able to foresee the consequences of actions.

Some usual picture puzzle IQ test? 0 correlation.

 

[Nick Hansen]

The correlation is bigger than people on here want to admit due to failed hockey careers.

 

[Machinehead]

Not much but its you can not be a Forrest Gump irl and be Gretzky on the ice. Somewhat 30-40% correlation would be close

I think this is fair.

I know Kreider is something of a nerd off ice and has very solid hockey IQ, but so is Tanner Glass and him not so much.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

Zach Hyman writes children’s books in his off time, is a rl gud pro and a rl gud family man


That’s gotta count for something... right?

Anybody could write Children’s books in there spare time... If he where writing novels this would be a different story.

 

[authentic]

Saw an interview with Marner when he was with the Knights and he didn't know how many provinces there were in Canada and thought the population of London Ontario (where he played!!!) was 30,000... maybe not the greatest measures of general IQ but like come on dude

Not only is it not the greatest measure it has nothing to do with it at all. Those are simple facts you figure he would know but maybe he just doesn't care?

 

[GodEmperor]

There are different types of IQ

Theory of multiple intelligences - Wikipedia

I'm willing to bet most players score very well on spatial IQ

Verbal IQ and rote memory tests aren't the best measures of what is necessary to succeed in the NHL, so players could score quite low on those and still be high on others

 

[AndreRoy]

I’d say there’s likely a high correlation between hockey IQ and spatial intelligence; not so much with other forms of intelligence.

 

[authentic]

Real life iq isn't determined by how much knowledge you have in your brain, but the ability to understand how things and the world work. I would imagine they are very similar. Some people naturally have hockey sense and others don't, but the ability to recognize what your natural instincts tell you (natural hockey sense) and what good hockey sense is, is impressive.

This is what I was thinking. I would also bet the IQs of McDavid, Crosby, Gretzky, Lemieux etc. are not below average. I could be wrong, but I somehow doubt it. The few examples in this thread so far given about players being dumb also have nothing to do with IQ.