OT: What would happen if HF Pens ran the Pens?

[penguins2946*]

Inspired from the main board thread, let's imagine that we (HF Pens) get full control of the Pens, and we make all of our decisions based on community vote. What would we do? How would we do in the season?

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[Ragamuffin Gunner]

Better PO success over the past 5 years.

 

[iFishyHD]

Evander Kane would be a Pen at all cost, Fluery for a bug of pucks, Scuderi and Dupuis assassinated, Adams would have been beaten with a tire iron. I could go on.

 

[Waffle Fries]

Well the first order of business would be to send Adams and Scuderi to space

 

[penguins2946*]

A couple ideas I had with us starting when Shero got canned:

-Scuderi and Adams would have been bought out
-We would have paid anything to get Kulemin here, and we would have not hesitated to sign Grabovski as well to get him here
-Neal probably wouldn't have been traded or would have been traded for futures
-Letang would have been traded and Niskanen re-signed
-We would have gone hard after Kesler, made low ball offers involving Sutter, and we wouldn't have gotten him
-Ehrhoff wouldn't be a Penguin

These accurate?

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Squabbling and panic.

Torch the CEC, Adams, Fleury, Scuderi and Dupuis for starters. Different jerseys, and Setoguchi because of multiple fake accounts. Get. Top. 6. Wingers.

Bylsma would have been fired so long ago and the same goes for Fleury.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Perennial bottom feeder with a great supply of 6'3" forward prospects.

 

[Waffle Fries]

A couple ideas I had with us starting when Shero got canned:

-Scuderi and Adams would have been bought out
-We would have paid anything to get Kulemin here, and we would have not hesitated to sign Grabovski as well to get him here
-Neal probably wouldn't have been traded or would have been traded for futures
-Letang would have been traded and Niskanen re-signed
-We would have gone hard after Kesler, made low ball offers involving Sutter, and we wouldn't have gotten him
-Ehrhoff wouldn't be a Penguin

These accurate?

I hope that's not accurate. I'd like to think we wouldn't make the team significantly worse

The trading Letang and signing Niskanen idea makes me cringe. Having all that dead cap because of Scuderi and Adams wouldn't help, and we certainly wouldn't have been able to afford to spend 9.2M on Kulemin and Grabovski. Trading Neal for futures wouldn't have improved the team in anyway.

If that's what we would have done, it's a damn good thing we aren't running the team.

 

[ColePens]

I'm calling head coach. I'm going to pick assistants.... and they are people who frequently oppose me. I believe the staff should be built w/ a little bit of push/pull/respect.

Therefore..... TenderRip, Jaded, and Jiggy are my assistants. Sorry to a lot of you. You will be on my staff but behind the scenes.

 

[penguins2946*]

Squabbling and panic.

Torch the CEC, Adams, Fleury, Scuderi and Dupuis for starters. Different jerseys, and Setoguchi because of multiple fake accounts. Get. Top. 6. Wingers.

Bylsma would have been fired so long ago and the same goes for Fleury.

That's a good one, and Chris Stewart would be a Penguin right now as well.

I hope that's not accurate. I'd like to think we wouldn't make the team significantly worse

The trading Letang and signing Niskanen idea makes me cringe.

I was posting stuff that was a popular idea at one point. That Letang one was a popular one. Insanely stupid, yes, but it was extremely popular.

 

[mpp9]

Fleury would have been long gone.

 

[Bennett Brauer]

HF would be fired by Mario not even half way into the season.

Potential for bankruptcy and relocation.

 

[Beauner]

Fleury wouldn't be here, Martin wouldn't be here, Malkin may or may not be here.

It would be interesting, that's for sure.

 

[cygnus47]

We'd be Sid and Geno surrounded by 20 year old prospects and 3rd line tweeners, and all prospects on D. We'd have a crap goalie and no worthwhile assets to get a replacement with.

 

[WayneSid9987]

I think you could do fairly well with polling for some of the moves. Buyouts/trading Adams/Scuds for pucks. But a move like moving Neal for Horns/Spaling to change the identity etc. would be a lot tougher to think up and to pull off.

Btw, i would've traded Letang AND NOT signed Niskanen.
And still got Erhoff.

Drafting would be better for sure though.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I'm calling head coach. I'm going to pick assistants.... and they are people who frequently oppose me. I believe the staff should be built w/ a little bit of push/pull/respect.

Therefore..... TenderRip, Jaded, and Jiggy are my assistants. Sorry to a lot of you. You will be on my staff but behind the scenes.

I will be in charge of the ice girl eating mascot.

 

[3074326]

Some good would (have) come of it. Glass, Adams, Scuderi and Bylsma would have been gone long ago. Fairly certain we would have moved some d-men for a winger. We'd probably have plenty of youth, but probably too much.

I personally wouldn't have traded Neal. I hope it works out. I think JR has done a great job so far though, and I think once we finally see another top sizer on the roster that we'll see a more complete and competitive team in the playoffs. HF would be icing the youngest roster of all time.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I think you could do fairly well with polling for some of the moves. Buyouts/trading Adams/Scuds for pucks. But a move like moving Neal for Horns/Spaling to change the identity etc. would be a lot tougher to think up and to pull off.

Btw, i would've traded Letang AND NOT signed Niskanen.
And still got Erhoff.

Drafting would be better for sure though.

Moe balanced certainly. But I doubt better. As a matter of fact I know not better.

A bunch of yahoos on a message board whose knowledge of the draft is for 99% of them (me included) formed by rankings that they read a week or two before the draft are not going to do better than probably even the worst drafting team in the league. And for all of Shero's faults, and he did have them, the poor drafting rep is undeserved. For where the Pens drafted almost every year he ran them he did spectacularly well in obtaining talent at the top of the draft, and given the low probabilities of hitting on draft picks after the first round (12% is the average) he didn't do nearly as badly as people here always say.

Shero's faults were far more in other areas, including sticking with Bylsma, his obsession with defense, and signing a couple of unfortunate contracts at the end.

 

[tom_servo]

With no professional or personal contact with the players and staff, and without the fear of being fired, decisions here can be carried out with no hesitation. Combining that with the amount of plain data available, I think HF could manage a roster.

What that would look like, I don't know. Outside people would suddenly use HF and a simple vote may not result in moves with any foresight.

It's necessary that every other team is controlled in the same manner so that trade negotiations can take place at the rate you would want. However, in that case, the peer advantage for our team is suddenly nullified.

Jerseys will be better.

So, no more than five straight Stanley Cups.

 

[PensPlz]

We'd be Sid and Geno surrounded by 20 year old prospects and 3rd line tweeners, and all prospects on D. We'd have a crap goalie and no worthwhile assets to get a replacement with.

I was with you until a crap goalie part.

Nah, we'd have the best goalie paring in the league, that we traded all our assets for and dedicated a huge portion of cap space..... But then we'd still be bounced out of the playoffs in the same fashion we have been.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

I'm calling head coach. I'm going to pick assistants.... and they are people who frequently oppose me. I believe the staff should be built w/ a little bit of push/pull/respect.

Therefore..... TenderRip, Jaded, and Jiggy are my assistants. Sorry to a lot of you. You will be on my staff but behind the scenes.

Ill be president of hockey operations CP, mostly an honorary title... Except Ill make sure you get any and all on ice tools you need without rest. And I will hold public beatings of any who oppose us infront of the Mario statue. BUT I demand that Craig Adams be my butler.

 

[Michael8771*]

First order of business would be to upgrade our top six at wing.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

A couple ideas I had with us starting when Shero got canned:

-Scuderi and Adams would have been bought out
-We would have paid anything to get Kulemin here, and we would have not hesitated to sign Grabovski as well to get him here
-Neal probably wouldn't have been traded or would have been traded for futures
-Letang would have been traded and Niskanen re-signed
-We would have gone hard after Kesler, made low ball offers involving Sutter, and we wouldn't have gotten him
-Ehrhoff wouldn't be a Penguin

These accurate?

I remember it a little more favorably, around the time Shero got the boot:

-Scuderi, Adams, Dupuis and a 3rd round pick to the Sabres for a 7th round pick
-Let JJ and Nisky walk
-Top 6 would have been:
Kunitz-Crosby-Kesler
Kulemin-Malkin-Neal
-Get Sutter to sign for as little as possible. Maybe 200k less than he'd gotten.
-Keep Joe V
-More speed and nastiness in the bottom 6 (a guy like Downie would likely have been signed)
-Give Megna and Sill shots as well
-Keep Letang (we were 50/50 on that one, I think the heart defect and him losing some value tipped the scales though)
-Buy out Fleury (compliance buyout!), bring in Halak, save 600k cap space and upgrade in net
-With that roster we probably still have cap space for Ehrhoff, could be wrong though I am too lazy to check

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Can I be Iceburgh?

 

[Shady Machine]

Lots of knee jerk reactions. Generally, it wouldn't be good but it depends on who gets to make the decisions haha.