Speculation: What would be needed to move Clarkson?

[hockeyes]

Assuming it's this summer and he plays as he has all year.

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[rdawg1234]

He's not getting moved.

Realistically, he's going to play 3-4 years more of mediocre hockey and then they'll buy out the rest of his contract.

He will get a little better though, he's definitely not a 15 point guy, been plagued with injuries, suspensions, pressure etc. this whole year, I expect a 30-40 point effort next year, which while definitely isnt 5.2m worthy, it's better than what he is now.

 

[jomas]

He's not getting moved.

Realistically, he's going to play 3-4 years more of mediocre hockey and then they'll buy out the rest of his contract.

He will get a little better though, he's definitely not a 15 point guy, been plagued with injuries, suspensions, pressure etc. this whole year, I expect a 30-40 point effort next year, which while definitely isnt 5.2m worthy, it's better than what he is now.

This is how I feel as well.
You never know of course, he might surprise but we'll keep him then, and he'll proceed to drop again.
His contract is just too heavy to move.

 

[mikebel111*]

Not going to make judgements after one season.

I think he will bounceback

 

[FlareKnight]

If it happens at all it'll probably be salary retention. You should easily be able to find teams that will take Clarkson with a chance to rebound for 2.6 million. Overall it's probably better than the buyout since that will stay on the cap for a longer amount of time.

I want to see him bounce back next year. If he can write this year off and get it together then who knows. That'd be a lot more ideal than having to suffer whatever consequence in moving him.

 

[gamer1035]

Not going to make judgements after one season.

I think he will bounceback

bounce back to what? hes sucked and been a third liner his whole career. he had 1 fluke season in a 10 year career. You think he will bounce back to that anomaly? Even playing with Kessel he will never hit that fluke season again.

 

[Al14]

Not going to make judgements after one season.

I think he will bounceback

I hope he bounces right the heck out of town!

 

[mikebel111*]

bounce back to what? hes sucked and been a third liner his whole career. he had 1 fluke season in a 10 year career. You think he will bounce back to that anomaly? Even playing with Kessel he will never hit that fluke season again.

He wont score 30 again.

That is for sure.

However he isnt a terrible player. Just having a bad season. I wont call people failure after 1 year.

 

[noBSleafsFAN]

He's basically unmovable. Even if management was looking to trade him this early I doubt they'd want to eat half of his salary unless they were extremely desperate.

 

[Al14]

The only way I see Nonis keeping his job is if he's able to dump Clarkson, and his stupid contract, to another team this summer.

Bad contract all around, even at half the price, he's overpaid!

 

[TootooTrain]

What would you need? Half a brain maybe. Got to give him the benefit of the doubt, ie atleast another season for him to prove his worth.

 

[darrylsittler27]

A team called Edmonton.

Edmonton fans are tired of grooming stars and lo$ing them anyway.They would entertain a Clarkson,Orr package for their kids to mature plus a player (Schultz) Gardiner for their pick. IF this team doesn't at least challenge next year for the playoffs, the old boys club may get serverely challenged by the now tired fanbase in Edmontonia. Many of them may even jump to the leafs soon, so long now has it gone on . They know their hockey here, they want results not more potential. We have what they need and we have evolved as a fast transistion(risk taking) team.

Edmonton would welcome Clarkson and he would help(30 pts?) them more than he can help us.We need Kulemin.

In short, it is all about how much we eat and Clarkson just might welcome it as Beauchmin phones and says "Congratulations!"

 

[Shak19]

Do we still have a buy out available?

 

[Ace88*]

The only way I see Nonis keeping his job is if he's able to dump Clarkson!

 

[Strategy]

IMO adding a 2nd rnder is enough to get rid of Clarkson, he still has value, just not 5.25mil value

 

[oldfan2010]

Clarkson is going through what many free agents go through after signing the big contract. They try to become more than they are to justify the money. Often, in the second year and beyond, they return to themselves and prosper. Let us hope so in this case

 

[Al14]

So, you think the Board is happy with the performance of Clarkson, given his huge pay cheque?

Do you think they'll be happy with the contract demands of other Leaf players that will be pointing at Clarkson's contract?

 

[Al14]

Clarkson is going through what many free agents go through after signing the big contract. They try to become more than they are to justify the money. Often, in the second year and beyond, they return to themselves and prosper. Let us hope so in this case

One can only hope! I would not be opposed to a Clarkson trade this summer.

 

[Mess]

Clarkson is not going anywhere.

Nonis is not shopping him and nobody is asking for him and you need two to tango to complete a trade and we're sitting at Zero at the moment.

 

[Schennanigans]

Maybe if we packaged a top prospect or 1st with him.

 

[Strategy]

Clarkson is not going anywhere.

Nonis is not shopping him and nobody is asking for him and you need two to tango to complete a trade and we're sitting at Zero at the moment.

I think if somebody asked for him, Nonis would definitely listen.

 

[darrylsittler27]

A mistake is a mistake, own up, move on!

Nonnis has done some good things. People rave about Bernier.Bolland was a good one,injurys aren't his fault. But Clarkson isn't suited for the Leafs, we have to eat some salary and realize Kulemin/Raymond mean more to u$.

 

[nuck]

He's not getting moved.

Realistically, he's going to play 3-4 years more of mediocre hockey and then they'll buy out the rest of his contract.

He will get a little better though, he's definitely not a 15 point guy, been plagued with injuries, suspensions, pressure etc. this whole year, I expect a 30-40 point effort next year, which while definitely isnt 5.2m worthy, it's better than what he is now.

^ Agreed. They won't consider dropping the guy after one bad year. No compliance buyouts left so there is no silver bullet, and they still want the type of game he has offered in the past (when producing). He has had off years before and bounced back.

I am not sure he will ever manage 40 points for them though. They haven't made much of an effort to use him the way NJ did (except in his 18pt 10-11 season). If they want him to produce like the previous two years he has to be a pp fixture and the Leafs pp was pretty solid on its own. Maybe the departure of Raymond will open up the minutes for him.

Its bad money for sure though and this surprises nobody except for Dave Nonis I guess. He is unmovable this year. Lose one Komi and pick up another

 

[Wami]

Buy low sell high, not sell low buy high.... we already bought high on Clarkson, moving him now is a double whammy of stupidity, he needs more time

 

[likeabosski]

I don't think he'll ever be the David Clarkson we saw in 2011-12 with his 30 goals and the beginning part of 2013 where he was a scoring machine.

Maybe we could get another team to eat 2.625-3m of his salary while we retain the rest.

For those who are wondering how much the cap hit would be if we bought him out between June 15-30 where we get the 2/3rds buyout discount (according to capgeek)

2014-15:* $2,291,667
2015-16:* $1,541,667
2016-17:* $41,667
2017-18:* $41,667
2018-19:* $2,291,667
2019-20:* $3,791,667
2020-21:* $1,791,667
2021-22:* $1,791,667
2022-23:* $1,791,667
2023-24:* $1,791,667
2024-25:* $1,791,667
2025-26:* $1,791,667
Total: $20,750,004 over 12 years
34% savings over his contract ($31.5 million over 6 years).