What We Learned: Avs/Preds

[Dutchess]

http://milehighsticking.com/2013/10/05/learned-avalanche-predators/

That's the Steve Downie we know and love (but everyone else hates).

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[AslanRH]

I learned that even though our defense still looks very shaky, 2 goals in 2 games feels pretty good.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Barrie might not be ready to be our #2 defenseman. I think Wilson will help our defense a lot.

 

[Freudian]

I learned that if you don't notice Guenin much, he's probably playing ok.

 

[Foppa Frossa]

I learned that my DVR didn't record the first airing of the game at all (0GB file) and when I tried to record the rerun, it recorded high school football.

 

[Foppa2118]

Barrie might not be ready to be our #2 defenseman. I think Wilson will help our defense a lot.

I think people are finally starting to figure out that first part, but need to see Wilson again as the #2 before they figure out he's not gonna be much help either.

Right now Benoit might be the Avs first or second best D along with EJ. That's saying something. They need help, and they need these guys like Barrie, Wilson, and even Benoit playing lesser roles.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

I think we learned that we're not a team anymore that will just give up leads without a fight. We also learned it's not easy to turn a PP around. Our PP really needs work.

 

[Foppa2118]

I think we learned that we're not a team anymore that will just give up leads without a fight. We also learned it's not easy to turn a PP around. Our PP really needs work.

They desperately need a QB to control the play from the backend. EJ, Barrie, and Benoit all move the puck around a little, and shoot every now and then, but they need someone to basically run the show back there. None of them really do that well enough.

There's too many chefs in the kitchen on the PP, they need a guy to direct things.

 

[Frenchy]

I learned that my DVR didn't record the first airing of the game at all (0GB file) and when I tried to record the rerun, it recorded high school football.

i'm sorry buddy , talk about bad luck

 

[Muffin]

They desperately need a QB to control the play from the backend. EJ, Barrie, and Benoit all move the puck around a little, and shoot every now and then, but they need someone to basically run the show back there. None of them really do that well enough.

There's too many chefs in the kitchen on the PP, they need a guy to direct things.

Liles?

 

[More 2004]

http://milehighsticking.com/2013/10/05/learned-avalanche-predators/

That's the Steve Downie we know and love (but everyone else hates).

Look to both Philly and Tampa. We still love the guy.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

We really need someone other than PAP that can bring a puck into the zone and establish the PP. EJ should really just be the big gun on the PP because otherwise he is useless there. If he can just remaster that one timer like he did in st.louis, he would be a great weapon.

 

[bohlmeister]

We really need someone other than PAP that can bring a puck into the zone and establish the PP. EJ should really just be the big gun on the PP because otherwise he is useless there. If he can just remaster that one timer like he did in st.louis, he would be a great weapon.

I don't think there is anything wrong with EJ's onetimer. He let one go last night wide. He wasn't really moving on the PP, and neither were the other guys. You need movement to open the lanes. There were a few times that Stastny or someone had it on the sidewall, and EJ stood still with the Nashville player in the passing lane, and he was still calling for the pass. If you don't know enough to move and get open there then you probably shouldn't even be on the PP.

Nonetheless, he still has the heavy shot, so they need to work on opening lanes for him to get it through.

 

[Foppa2118]

Liles?

Nah, not with three years left.

I keep telling everyone, but Barrie is Liles. They are very very similar, and even play D very similarly. No reason to have two of the same player.

Barrie's just a bit more shifty, and quick with his puck movement. That's a detriment to him though IMO, and Patrick alluded to the same thing saying he needs to keep things more simple, and be more patient. When he does that, he will look exactly like Liles.

 

[Puckstop40]

We learned that the Predators do not like Steve Downie at all.

 

[Pokecheque]

We can't have both Liles and Barrie in the same lineup.

The quest continues for a true #1 guy. When/if that finally happens, you'll see Barrie flourish. He's a perfect complementary/2nd pairing guy, much like Kevin Shattenkirk is doing wonders for the Blues because he doesn't have to shoulder the load with Pietrangelo in the lineup. But right now, EJ is merely adequate, and Hejda is just...Hejda. He's definitely the most frustrating D-man to watch right now, not Barrie. Guenin and Benoit continue to surprise, on the other hand.

I don't think the problem with the PP is a lack of a QB. Benoit and Barrie will be fine in that department. The problem is getting a guy who will clear bodies in front of the net, create deflections, and get rebounds. Right now the only guy doing that is Bordeleau, and look what happened there! Too often during the PP the team was moving the puck around great, but just couldn't get shots through traffic, and when they tried to force a cross-ice pass, bad things happened. McGinn is a good crash-the-net type forward, but he's not a guy who's just gonna stand in the slot and take punishment.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I learned that my DVR didn't record the first airing of the game at all (0GB file) and when I tried to record the rerun, it recorded high school football.

I had issues as well...I recorded it, but all I got was a black screen. Debating on if it was just something weird or I need to call Directv.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Altitude was screwed up and many people didn't get the broadcast so I don't think it was an issue on your end unless it happens again.

When MacK gets regular time on the PP what would be the best role for him?

 

[RockLobster]

Altitude was screwed up and many people didn't get the broadcast so I don't think it was an issue on your end unless it happens again.

When MacK gets regular time on the PP what would be the best role for him?

Take it from someone who used to work in the Cable industry, last night wasn't Altitude's fault, it was the fault of the individual cable/satellite operator.

Believe it or not, Cable companies still get their signals broadcast to them via satellite, so if that operator has a problem with their main satellite receiver then that means that their customers are going to have problems.

Case in point, I had no problem getting the Altitude feed on Center Ice last night, but as I understood it customers on Comcast Xfinity and DirecTV had problems, that, to me, would say that those specific companies had issues receiving the transmission.

 

[AslanRH]

I learned that my DVR didn't record the first airing of the game at all (0GB file) and when I tried to record the rerun, it recorded high school football.

I had issues as well...I recorded it, but all I got was a black screen. Debating on if it was just something weird or I need to call Directv.

My cable feed was out all game so I had to watch off my computer.

From the little blip of dialog early between Haynes, McNab and the unheard control room they knew they were out. Haynes said he was getting texts from home about it. McNab I believe said "Oh my God" in a very disgusted tone.

 

[AslanRH]

Take it from someone who used to work in the Cable industry, last night wasn't Altitude's fault, it was the fault of the individual cable/satellite operator.

Believe it or not, Cable companies still get their signals broadcast to them via satellite, so if that operator has a problem with their main satellite receiver then that means that their customers are going to have problems.

Case in point, I had no problem getting the Altitude feed on Center Ice last night, but as I understood it customers on Comcast Xfinity and DirecTV had problems, that, to me, would say that those specific companies had issues receiving the transmission.

True, we just had a massive storm in Wyo, so I knew there would be issues.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Yeah I know it was a Comcast issue especially since they had the rebroadcast just fine. I didn't know it affected other providers as well. But my point was it wasn't the customer's issue.

 

[Boulder Avalanche]

Not to trust your cable or satellite provider.

 

[Foppa2118]

We can't have both Liles and Barrie in the same lineup.

The quest continues for a true #1 guy. When/if that finally happens, you'll see Barrie flourish. He's a perfect complementary/2nd pairing guy, much like Kevin Shattenkirk is doing wonders for the Blues because he doesn't have to shoulder the load with Pietrangelo in the lineup. But right now, EJ is merely adequate, and Hejda is just...Hejda. He's definitely the most frustrating D-man to watch right now, not Barrie. Guenin and Benoit continue to surprise, on the other hand.

I don't think the problem with the PP is a lack of a QB. Benoit and Barrie will be fine in that department. The problem is getting a guy who will clear bodies in front of the net, create deflections, and get rebounds. Right now the only guy doing that is Bordeleau, and look what happened there! Too often during the PP the team was moving the puck around great, but just couldn't get shots through traffic, and when they tried to force a cross-ice pass, bad things happened. McGinn is a good crash-the-net type forward, but he's not a guy who's just gonna stand in the slot and take punishment.

Strongly disagree with this. Benoit and Barrie are ok. Nothing special at this point at least. Neither control the play out there. Neither is really playing that "QB" role of directing the PP. They're just a guy playing the point. No one is really "running" the PP. It's just five guys trying to do stuff. That's the problem.

 

[klozge]

Strongly disagree with this. Benoit and Barrie are ok. Nothing special at this point at least. Neither control the play out there. Neither is really playing that "QB" role of directing the PP. They're just a guy playing the point. No one is really "running" the PP. It's just five guys trying to do stuff. That's the problem.

I think, the PP looked really good in game 1 so the weaker performance in the 2nd game isn't worrying me. I have learned to trust Roy and I think the PP will be good again against the Leafs.