What to expect from Datsyuk this year?

[ricky0034]

with an improved powerplay,moving to the east,and starting the season with Zetterberg i'll be disappointed if he doesn't hit at least 90 points if he's healthy

 

[Frk It]

with an improved powerplay,moving to the east,and starting the season with Zetterberg i'll be disappointed if he doesn't hit at least 90 points if he's healthy

Yeah, that would be awesome. Hopefully he stats healthy.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

66-72 points.

 

[KJoe88]

I don't think it's crazy for him to reach 100P as long as he stays healthy. I know Pav has never done it, but even at his age, I still think he's productive enough to put those numbers.

With that said, I think he'll get a respectable 85P.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

Expecting a 35 year old to score 90 points for the first time since he was 31... Saying you'll be disappointed if he doesn't...
Prepare to be disappointed

 

[Syckle78]

Pretty much everyone said if he stays healthy. That and playing in the more defensive west have held his production back the last handful of years. I don't think many are expecting it but are bringing up what's possible if everything breaks right. I will only be disappointed if he plays a full season and racks up less than 80 pts.

 

[mindfly]

Expecting a 35 year old to score 90 points for the first time since he was 31... Saying you'll be disappointed if he doesn't...
Prepare to be disappointed

Do you not think it's reasonable to score more points in the Eastern Conference? Have you thought about that in your equation?

 

[Henkka]

Do you not think it's reasonable to score more points in the Eastern Conference? Have you thought about that in your equation?

Based on last season GAA's, is was ~6% harder to score against western teams.

So, a 100-point-player at East would have been 94-point-player at West on average.

At 80-point player range (where Datsyuk is) that could mean 4-5 extra points.

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I still think that when injuries will hit during the season, to keep the roster depth, Datsyuk is the guy who will carry those pylons (Bert, Cleary, AKader) in the line suffling and end to +60 points.

Personally I don't care about his own individual scoring as long as he prevents 300 points from opposite Star players to happen.

 

[RaySheppard]

No. No one cares about Ken Daniels and what he says. In fact all of your local media down there is second rate and rather passive. Welcome to the Atlantic division. Time to step it up.

 

[SoupNazi]

No. No one cares about Ken Daniels and what he says. In fact all of your local media down there is second rate and rather passive. Welcome to the Atlantic division. Time to step it up.

Time to step what up?

 

[Heaton]

Let's not derail this thread, make another thread if you're that worried about a nickname.

 

[RaySheppard]

Time to step what up?

Holland's accountability.

 

[Frk It]

I still think that when injuries will hit during the season, to keep the roster depth, Datsyuk is the guy who will carry those pylons (Bert, Cleary, AKader) in the line suffling and end to +60 points.

Don't think it's wise to put your best player in a position where he is destined to fail.

Also why are we keeping so many of these "pylons" on our roster?

 

[Henkka]

Don't think it's wise to put your best player in a position where he is destined to fail.

Also why are we keeping so many of these "pylons" on our roster?

Datsyuk has proven before that he is so superb individual, who can carry those kind of pylons and still have a decent line, that defends well and wins the scoring relatively against their opposite lines. That's winning hockey.

At same time Zetteberg's line and Griffins line are also scoring, so the Red Wings are winning on the long run. That's how Mike Babcock is thinking.

 

[DanZ]

Holland's accountability.

This guy

 

[InjuredChoker]

Datsyuk has proven before that he is so superb individual, who can carry those kind of pylons and still have a decent line, that defends well and wins the scoring relatively against their opposite lines. That's winning hockey.

At same time Zetteberg's line and Griffins line are also scoring, so the Red Wings are winning on the long run. That's how Mike Babcock is thinking.

Where's Weiss?

Babs has always talked about Helm as third line C, not Andy. Well, we may not ever see it.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

Do you not think it's reasonable to score more points in the Eastern Conference? Have you thought about that in your equation?

I don;t think that will

East=2.77 goals against
West- 2.64 goals against

If Pavel played ALL his games .against the East, that would be about a 1.05 multiplier
Or 4 points.
Then factor in 28 games against the west.
Then factor in 30 divisional games.
Then factor in 24 games against the rest of the conference.

That probably mutes most of the tiny tiny difference there is.

Here are the divisional GAAs from last year
Atlantic 2.72
Metro 2.73
Central 2.75
Pacific 2.67

So factoring in the divisional goals against and scheduling matrix, i think it's really simplistic to say, Datsyuk will score more in the East.

 

[Danja]

60 points with Bertuzzi/Cleary/Abdelkader rotating as his wingers.

If Weiss is injured, Babcock is gonna split Zeta and Dats something like this:

Franzen - Zeta - Alfie
Abdelkader - Dats - Bertuzzi/Cleary

We have seen that before, and we will see it again.

I just died a little inside, having to read that.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Expecting a 35 year old to score 90 points for the first time since he was 31... Saying you'll be disappointed if he doesn't...
Prepare to be disappointed

We all know the reasons why he hasn't scored 90+ the past couple of seasons: injuries+linemates (+lockout). If he plays with Z all season, maybe Alfredsson for atleast parts of it (+ on the PP) I believe his production will be back at his 07-10 levels. Healthy is an issue but the good thing is that he doesn't have constant back issues or groin issues so I don't believe an injury-free season is impossible for him.

Won't be disappointed if he plays 70 games and scores 60 points though, Pavel is not a guy that disappoints anyway.

 

[DarkReign]

Playing in the defenseless East (minus Boston), ridiculousness.

 

[babcockscowl]

What to expect?

Highlight reel plays, manic backchecking, puck steals, funny quotes, players falling over themselves trying to stop him.. good stuff basically.

And PPG, +/- 10 points, depending on health and linemates.

 

[opivy]

I think he will have less points this year. Age is age and no one has ever been able to defeat it.

 

[babcockscowl]

I think he will have less points this year. Age is age and no one has ever been able to defeat it.

sup?

 

[opivy]

sup?

I stand corrected, Selanne did score more after 35 a few times.

Lidstrom however, is not human. He does not count.

 

[babcockscowl]

I stand corrected, Selanne did score more after 35 a few times.

Lidstrom however, is not human. He does not count.

I stand corrected