What team only has good contracts?

[Czechboy]

The Oilers have 3 Cap mistakes right now.

Spefically Nurse has a caphit of 9.25 million
Campbell has a caphit of 3.85 (rest buried in AHL)

So that is roughly 13 million for Nurse and Campbell.

And 2 more years of James Neal for 2 million

So 16 million for retired Neal, AHL Campbell and Top 4 Nurse.

Nurse is in our top 4, plays over 20 a night and is definitely overpaid. But he's easily a 5 million dollar dman on any team. So I'll argue the Oilers have 10 million in wasted cap space:

3.85 for Campbell
2 for Neal
4 for Nurse

How many teams have less than 10 million in wasted cap space and poor contracts? This would include players with bad contracts, buried players and buyouts.

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[M2Beezy]

Vegas cap circumvention allows for 30% bad contracts so them

 

[Czechboy]

On a sidenote: Hyman (5.5), Drai (8.5), Bouch (4) and McD (12.5) are all paid less than their current value.

30 Mill for Hyman, Bouch, McD and Drai is pretty good! Skinner at 2.6 as well.

 

[leafsfan5]

Carolina has a solid cap structure, though that KK contract doesn't look great

 

[wintersej]

No bad contracts in Boston. Gryz hasn’t earned his money this year, but certainly has in the past and he is a pending UFA. Forbort similar deal where he didn’t earn it this year, despite earning it in the past, but he is LTIR’d and a pending UFA.

Now… ask again a week into July when Boston has a pile of money to burn…

 

[Czechboy]

Vegas cap circumvention allows for 30% bad contracts so them

Lehner at 5 million.

 

[Czechboy]

Carolina has a solid cap structure, though that KK contract doesn't look great

Them and Boston were my first 2 guesses tbh. Love how Carolina is run. Same with Boston. Maybe Nashville?

 

[Czechboy]

No bad contracts in Boston. Gryz hasn’t earned his money this year, but certainly has in the past and he is a pending UFA. Forbort similar deal where he didn’t earn it this year, despite earning it in the past, but he is LTIR’d and a pending UFA.

Now… ask again a week into July when Boston has a pile of money to burn…

They have a great situation... beautifully run. Basically Lucic and Reilly for 1.3 million. Everything else is reasonable to my eye.

 

[Czechboy]

Carolina has a solid cap structure, though that KK contract doesn't look great

The future Necas and Jarvis contracts will be a problem but agree. KK I like and he makes under 5 and is a probably 3 to 4 anyways. Agreed. Great cap structure. Up to 2... Boston and Carolina!

 

[TheDeuce]

I like how Chevy has structured the Jets contract and cap situation - I'm no expert though.

Thoughts?



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[Czechboy]

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Looked into Nashville

Nope.. Johanssen, Turris and Duchene. Plus Barrie.

 

[Czechboy]

I like how Chevy has structured the Jets contract and cap situation - I'm no expert though.

Thoughts?



m.

Wheeler (2.75) and Scheifeille (8.5 with a full NMC) next season isn't ideal. But, yeah, pretty good!

 

[Three On Zero]

Carolina, Dallas, Winnipeg?

 

[Czechboy]

Carolina, Dallas, Winnipeg?

Carolina - YES (Necas may be a problem next season)
Winnipeg - mostly yes - Wheeler and Scheifele next season is not great!
Dallas - let's look

Seguin at 10m seems a tad high?
Benn at 9.5m seems a tad high?

Both great players but not sure I'd want them for 20 million. For the OIl - 20 million is Bouch, Drai, Skinner and Hyman.

That's about it.. so mostly yes.

 

[Three On Zero]

Carolina - YES (Necas may be a problem next season)
Winnipeg - mostly yes - Wheeler and Scheifele next season is not great!
Dallas - let's look

Seguin at 10m seems a tad high?
Benn at 9.5m seems a tad high?

Both great players but not sure I'd want them for 20 million. For the OIl - 20 million is Bouch, Drai, Skinner and Hyman.

That's about it.. so mostly yes.

Seguin and Benn seem a bit rejuvenated this season, you may be right down the stretch though

 

[Czechboy]

Seguin and Benn seem a bit rejuvenated this season, you may be right down the stretch though

I don't follow them closely and I KNOW they are great players.. but they look like 50 to 60 point guys to me today.

RNH has put up better numbers consistently. Don't see this improving with age.

 

[Three On Zero]

I don't follow them closely and I KNOW they are great players.. but they look like 50 to 60 point guys to me today.

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RNH has put up better numbers consistently. Don't see this improving with age.

Fair argument again

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Carolina was the first team I thought of but Kotkaniemi is headed toward a (cheap) buyout so he's probably a bad contract. I think Palat's a tad overpaid on NJ but that's the only contract I'd even point to as being an issue.

 

[Three On Zero]

Fair argument again

I don’t know if we truly have many teams that fit the mold with no bad or overpriced contracts

Carolina was the first team I thought of but Kotkaniemi is headed toward a (cheap) buyout so he's probably a bad contract. I think Palat's a tad overpaid on NJ but that's the only contract I'd even point to as being an issue.

I would put Hamilton in the not so good for contract territory

 

[Czechboy]

Carolina was the first team I thought of but Kotkaniemi is headed toward a (cheap) buyout so he's probably a bad contract. I think Palat's a tad overpaid on NJ but that's the only contract I'd even point to as being an issue.

I'd say Carolina and Boston are the best answers so far. Beautifully manged.

NJ is interesting...

So I'd argue Palat and Meier are overpaid as that is 14 million for those 2

BUT

That isn't great and I had no idea they are still paying Kovalchuk.

However, not eggregious and I'd say yes NJ has a good cap situation. Probably around 10 million in wasted money with overpays, retained salaries and buyouts.

 

[Czechboy]

Now that I've looked at a bunch...

I'm thinking it needs tiers.lol

Tier 1 - less than 5 million wasted in cap on overpays, buyouts and retained salaries
Tier 2 - 10 million or less

Not many teams are crossing this bar.

 

[Czechboy]

I don’t know if we truly have many teams that fit the mold with no bad or overpriced contracts


I would put Hamilton in the not so good for contract territory

Which is my argument about the Oilers bad contracts.. we are around 10 million over which seems to be pretty damn good! And that is before you factor in we have Drai for 8.5 and Connor 12.5. I feel that offsets the 10 million, no? Then Hyman, Skinner and Bouch (RFA so a bit different) all have a lot more value.

I did foget Kane - that one is aging badly

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Carolina has a solid cap structure, though that KK contract doesn't look great

His is really the only question mark at all right now, and I do think they could move him pretty easily if need be.

 

[tmg]

I would put Hamilton in the not so good for contract territory

The only negative so far has been a single injury. He had 74 points last season, and his 16 in 20 this season before going down was still pacing for >65 and likely a top 10 defenseman point tally at season end.

And Meier leading the league in goals-in-March is a decent sign he may have worked out some problems (or been held back by Lindy)

I’m with the poster you replied to - the Devils’ only bad current contract is Palat. And of course the smattering of small dead money lumps from buyouts and retentions and recapture - of which all end in a matter of weeks except for one more year of 250k on Kovalchuk.

 

[Three On Zero]

Which is my argument about the Oilers bad contracts.. we are around 10 million over which seems to be pretty damn good! And that is before you factor in we have Drai for 8.5 and Connor 12.5. I feel that offsets the 10 million, no? Then Hyman, Skinner and Bouch (RFA so a bit different) all have a lot more value.

I did foget Kane - that one is aging badly

Kane was always going to be a bad signing, you don’t hand out that much to a guy who’s essentially playing for his life. Luckily it was short term. Really glad the Canucks didn’t bite when he tried to force his way to them from the Sharks