Post-Game Talk: What should be Hollands priority?

[Fourier]

It would seem to me that Kuemper makes he most sense. He is 30 which is still pretty young for a goalie and right now has no movement clauses on his deal with one more year after this at $4.5M. This year's first gets the talks started.

Gibson is probably a non-starter. The cost would be astronomical given that he has a long term deal in place and is only 26.

 

[Chabot84]

1st + Broberg + for Ekholm?

1st + Holloway?

I saw a huge deal with Anaheim proposed a few days ago for Lindholm + Rakell.

2020 1st + Broberg + Lavoie + Larsson + ?

I think we should hold onto Holloway for now

 

[brenden]

I’d like to see them obviously upgrade the goaltending. Also I think they could use more functional toughness. Not sure how much someone like Crouse or Max Jones would cost but maybe someone with grit and skill. Although everyone probably wants that.

not sure if this is the right year to do much with all the complications.

 

[Proko88]

2021- 1st
Holloway
Jones
Larsson- cap purposes
For
Gibson
2021- 2nd

 

[TFHockey]

2021- 1st
Holloway
Jones
Larsson- cap purposes
For
Gibson
2021- 2nd

I think that is too much for any goalie.

However I think that Holloway, even as spectacular as he has looked this year, should be up for grabs if moving him helps the Oilers in the short and long term.

Getting Gibson I believe does this, but for that package I'd ask for a D-man as well.

 

[SwedishFire]

priority list

1 a good goalie, no stupid long term please.

2 A experienced D that takes after Russell.

3 handshake deal with Nuge at highest 6,5 m/year.

4 trade chiasson for any asset possible

5 evaluate Benson if keep or trade before its (aleeady is maybe) to late.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

They need some clarity on Klefboms long term situation, especially with the expansion draft coming up. It’s really difficult to accurately evaluate your goaltending and blue line when you’re clear cut #1 defender is out for the season.

 

[Oilhawks]

This team is lacking smart defensemen. Get a better d group in front of the goalie and the goalie's stats automatically go up. It's how Dubnyk was in Vezina conversation for years in Minnesota. I'm not saying Dubnyk is bad, nor am I saying Koskinen's excellent, but the problem lies first and foremost in the D. The loss of Klefbom has always been understated. Remember in McDavid's rookie season, once we lost Klefbom everything went to shit. Even on a bum shoulder he was our best Dman and played 24 min/gm of solid hockey.

Nurse is good, but not at the level of a top pairing D yet, and he can't do it all by himself. Barrie is a specialist and he's played as well as I expected so whatever. Players like Larsson and Russell are like a net negative out there, don't bring them back next year. We absolutely need to find more guys like Nurse. If we had two Nurse level players, two Bear level players, and one Barrie + whoever (Koekkoek, Jones, Lagesson, w/e), then we should be good.

Could be that the bolded are answered by Broberg and Bouchard. I think they should aim to get another top 4 D for insurance going into next season, leaves one top 4 D spot to win

 

[Canovin]

1. Trade Kosko for an upgrade
2. Trade for a Top 4 D
3. Sign a 3C
4. Sign a 1LW
5. Sign a backup to replace Smith

Internal growth will take care of the rest

 

[McOilers97]

1. Trade Kosko for an upgrade
2. Trade for a Top 4 D
3. Sign a 3C
4. Sign a 1LW
5. Sign a backup to replace Smith

Internal growth will take care of the rest

To the bolded: are you then advocating for Kahun in the bottom 6 and/or to let RNH walk? Just curious.

 

[Oilhawks]

To the bolded: are you then advocating for Kahun in the bottom 6 and/or to let RNH walk? Just curious.

I read it as Kahun is 2LW, the 1LW is for Connor.

 

[McOilers97]

I read it as Kahun is 2LW, the 1LW is for Connor.

Yeah, which begs the question, is RNH on the team or not? I'm not tied to him being on this roster long-term, just want to know what this poster thinks.

 

[Canovin]

To the bolded: are you then advocating for Kahun in the bottom 6 and/or to let RNH walk? Just curious.

1LW is not a priority right now but I think it should be on the list anyway. If we sign a bonafide 3C, then we re-sign RNH to play 1LW. But if RNH doesn't plan on re-signing then we package him for a top 4 D.

 

[DakrSnooze]

I'm definitely on the goalie train. We need someone who can provide consistency and can make a big save when the team needs it most. Koski and Smith are not the answer here, obviously (although Smith did have a great game last night).

 

[MessierII]

1. Trade Kosko for an upgrade
2. Trade for a Top 4 D
3. Sign a 3C
4. Sign a 1LW
5. Sign a backup to replace Smith

Internal growth will take care of the rest

I don’t really agree with this. I don’t see how we can trade for a top 4 D. We don’t have anything to spare at forward. We just don’t have the assets to make that trade. I think if Klef is done we just need a stop gap vet to mentor our younger players. You can fill that via UFA or Klefbom coming back. Same with goaltending. I don’t think you need to trade Mikko. He has one year left and is good as a 1B might even be elite as a back up. Bring in a good UFA goalie or trade for someone like Kuemper who doesn’t have a ton of term and won’t be too ridiculous. I agree up front we need a 3C for sure and a left wing IF we don’t keep Nuge.

 

[McOilers97]

1LW is not a priority right now but I think it should be on the list anyway. If we sign a bonafide 3C, then we re-sign RNH to play 1LW. But if RNH doesn't plan on re-signing then we package him for a top 4 D.

I agree with this approach. McDavid would still produce his usual 1.3+ points per game even if they gave him Tyler Ennis on LW. It would be nice to get him a linemate upgrade, but not essential for his effectiveness.

Really curious to see what happens on D this summer. Nurse-Bear-Bouchard seem the obvious ones to stay, but what happens with Barrie? Is Koekkoek re-signed to be a 6/7 again next season? Is Russell still around for his new cheaper cap-hit of $1.25m or do they move him in order to make some space? Is Broberg ready to crack the lineup? Can they land a big fish like Hamilton if they move on from Barrie? Assuming Larsson is let walk in free agency, which is probably for the best.

 

[Aceboogie]

I do not know about going all in for a goalie. Maybe its Gibson, but hed be the only one.

I think there are other solid goalies out there and we can pay a reasonable price (cap hit, or trade) for 2. A lot of teams are going with the 2 #1B goalie strategy and its working well for some.

Holland going all in on Markstrom and having no back up plan was such a horrible, horrible plan. It left us with Smith as the only option. Meanwhile a goalie like Jake Allen gets traded for nothing and is one of the better goalies in the NHL thus far.

He needs to indentify a under valued goalie and pa a reasonable price for that goalie. However I do not think hes capable of doing so. Hell chase the biggest name, miss and well be left with Skinner as the back up

 

[Canovin]

I don’t really agree with this. I don’t see how we can trade for a top 4 D. We don’t have anything to spare at forward. We just don’t have the assets to make that trade. I think if Klef is done we just need a stop gap vet to mentor or younger players. You can fill that via UFA or Klefbom coming back. Same with goaltending. I don’t think you need to trade Mikko. He has one year left and is good as a 1B might even be elite as a back up. Bring in a good UFA goalie or trade for someone like Kuemper who doesn’t have a ton of term and won’t be too ridiculous. I agree up front we need a 3C for sure and a left wing IF we don’t keep Nuge.

We still have 2021 1st and 2022 1st. Larsson and RNH(if he lets the team know he's not re-signing), Benson, Jones are trade pieces. I rather we trade for a #2/3 D rather than sign a #4/5 D who has to play above his level. I think most teams would rather have a goalie going back if we are trading for their best goalie. I agree Kosko would be a good back up but that's an expensive back up

 

[MessierII]

We still have 2021 1st and 2022 1st. Larsson and RNH(if he lets the team know he's not re-signing), Benson, Jones are trade pieces. I rather we trade for a #2/3 D rather than sign a #4/5 D who has to play above his level. I think most teams would rather have a goalie going back if we are trading for their best goalie. I agree Kosko would be a good back up but that's an expensive back up

Larsson and Nuge if traded are rentals. Nobodies trading a signed top 4 D in a package with a rental player just doesn’t work that way. So basically it’s our future 1st rounders, Jones and Benson. Who are you even getting in a package like that? It’s easier to just sign a stop gap guy. Ideally Klef returns and in that case I don’t even do anything on the back end. We have so much help coming on the back end. We definitely need to address goaltending and forward depth.

In net if your doing it in season I’d definitely rather just trade smith than Koskinen. I don’t see anything major happening in season though. Generally in season trades are rentals and with all the complications from the pandemic I don’t see much action this year in terms of trades.