NJRockinRoller
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Agree to disagree about that. I think it's one of the most common reasons for coaches to be fired: brutal stretches of bad play.
but 7 game stretches? Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt there are many instances where a coach, who was looked to have the team going in the right direction prior, is fired after a single 7 game stretch of bad play.
Lou fired coaches for less than that lol
Even seven game losing streaks usually don't have the team being completely noncompetitive for six of the seven games. And it's not like the malaise hasn't lasted longer than the seven games, the team's lost 14 of 17 overall. People talk like this malaise has ONLY started with the last seven games, it's just the effort level's bottomed out over the recent seven games. As Shero noted yesterday it started with the team blowing the two-goal lead in Anaheim.
Look Shero has spoken out. Typically that is the warning shot. I think the vote of confidence means nothing. When a GM speaks out about the team in this manner imo it means that the coach is now on the clock.
but 7 game stretches? Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt there are many instances where a coach, who was looked to have the team going in the right direction prior, is fired after a single 7 game stretch of bad play.
There are plenty of coaches who muster one decent year (and really that's all Hynes did) and then disappoint the following year. The Jack Adams award could probably be a study in that actually. Hynes seems to be a one hit wonder at this point, if you ask me, and the one hit wasn't even that great.
Don't get Bleed started on Jack Adams winners lol
I think we also have to remember Shero's dad was an NHL head coach. Maybe he really does see the position as more than disposable Kleenex the way we got used to with Lou.
There are plenty of coaches who muster one decent year (and really that's all Hynes did) and then disappoint the following year. The Jack Adams award could probably be a study in that actually. Hynes seems to be a one hit wonder at this point, if you ask me, and the one hit wasn't even that great.
Did you want Hynes fired 2 weeks ago?
Ride it out with Hynes, assuming he dumbs the game down a bit for this team so that they can at least look respectable the remainder of the season. I don't care for all his decisions but when it comes down to it, this is not a roster worth saving. Hynes built equity last year and we're nearly half way through this season. I just don't see what is to be gained by bringing in someone now and starting from scratch at this point. It's one really bad stretch of play with a mediocre roster. Gut feeling is that its going backwards for him to be fired. That said, if these blowouts continue, Shero must do something to shake things up. A roster move will be necessary.
Flyers had an easier "re-tool" because they had a lot of talent. Devils started from scratch.Completely agree.
Btw - to those who want to tank. The Flyers are a good example of a team that hasn't tanked. They've made aggressive moves in the draft, selected well, made a couple of good trades / pick-ups, and are on the upswing.
The key for the Flyers was replacing Holmgren with Hextall in 2014, basically one year before Shero took over for Lou.
Hextall did have Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, and Brayden Schenn. They had no one on D (but did have prospects). They had no goalie.
I don't know if that's a lot different than the Devils in 2015: Greene, Larsson, Severson, Henrique, Zajac, and Schneider.
Here's a good round up of Hextall's tenure from January of this year:
http://www.csnphilly.com/the700level/ron-hextall-setting-flyers-make-monumental-leap
Ride it out with Hynes, assuming he dumbs the game down a bit for this team so that they can at least look respectable the remainder of the season. I don't care for all his decisions but when it comes down to it, this is not a roster worth saving. Hynes built equity last year and we're nearly half way through this season. I just don't see what is to be gained by bringing in someone now and starting from scratch at this point. It's one really bad stretch of play with a mediocre roster. Gut feeling is that its going backwards for him to be fired. That said, if these blowouts continue, Shero must do something to shake things up. A roster move will be necessary.
Amen. Trade them all I say. I'd keep Zacha because his value isn't high enough yet, but otherwise the rest of this team are mostly 3rd liners on a championship caliber team in all honesty.Besides Schneider and Hall, all of those mentioned are secondary players on good teams. That's how little talent is here.
Nothing.
If a trade that makes sense comes along you take it, but the overreaction on here is ridiculous.
The 9-3-3 start created some foolish expectations for a season that was going to be a grind. We were a bubble team and still are in that same pack. Only difference is this year the playoff teams separated themselves from the bubble and which coincided with an awful stretch by the Devils.
Get back to playing the way we were playing, with an identity. We're going to have to be patient to let the prospects we have from 2014 onwards, our main prospects, develop. In the meantime, look to improve the defense and add quality depth and complimentary players. That should be the focus right now rather than tear down what little structure we have already.
Even if all our prospects pan out we aren't going to catch up Capitals, Rangers, Flyers, Jackets and Pens in the near future. What's the point? at best this could become a wild card team... I'd much rather start again, try and build it the right way, in order to build a cup contender instead of a playoff pretender.
Devils need a proper rebuild instead of this BS re-tool they're trying to do. It has been 4 years of this crap. They aren't challenging for playoffs while missing out on blue-chip/game-changers prospects like Matthews, Laine, Marner, McDavid...
The attendance drops year after year as this team can't have any success (playoffs) and neither does have any exciting players (sans Hall) to cheer about.