When he’s away from Fox he carries every pairing he’s on. I’d say he’s a solid 3D right now with potential to be a 2D if his offense improves. I get why people would be hesitant to call him a 3D but he was better on the PK than Fox and is the best body checker on our team along with Trouba. Needs more time to prove himself though but he’s Girardi 2.0I voted 4. Good guy to have on your second pairing, ideally as the supporting guy on that pairing though.
When he’s away from Fox he carries every pairing he’s on. I’d say he’s a solid 3D right now with potential to be a 2D if his offense improves. I get why people would be hesitant to call him a 3D but he was better on the PK than Fox and is the best body checker on our team along with Trouba. Needs more time to prove himself though but he’s Girardi 2.0
There definitely aren’t 96 better defenseman than him, if even 60 realistically
That’s what I mean by he has to prove it more but whenever he has played away from Fox he’s looked the same and carries his pairing. Fox is elite defensively but gets to be elite offensively at the same time because he has Lindgren there to cover for him. Hajek was paired with Fox for like 5 games last season and it was a disasterDude has barely even played apart from Fox in his 2 seasons. How can you carry a pairing when it’s just random spot duty?
No it doesn't. Unless you're talking about role.Hes a 3/4 defender that has tremendous chemistry with the reigning Norris Trophy winning #1 Defenceman on the NYR so that makes him a No. 2 D
No it doesn't. Unless you're talking about role.
Ryan Graves played with Cale Makar, does that make him a #2D?Since he's not playing for any other team any time soon, I can only tell you what he is on the NYR.
Hes going to match Fox ES minutes without any concern from the coach.
Hes going to log a ton of PK minutes as well.
He doesnt carry the offensive acumen that others may carry, but he is comfortably put out there in situations where you need to protect a lead or score a goal as again his chemistry with Fox is undeniable which allows the more gifted player to play to his strengths.
I'd like to hear what folks think the definition of a #2 looks like?
Ryan Graves played with Cale Makar, does that make him a #2D?
So they played one more game as a pairing than Makar and Graves is what you're saying, yet Graves is a #5 and Lindgren far higher. Terrific logic.Context matters.
This is the 3rd year Lindgren/Fox is a pairing.
And Lindgren is not getting traded anytime soon.
Graves is what he is, a 5/7 defender that got played out of position and when it was clear of what he was, he was moved.
So they played one more game as a pairing than Makar and Graves is what you're saying, yet Graves is a #5 and Lindgren far higher. Terrific logic.
Left side of the Avs defense is Toews, Byram and Girard. MacDermid plays a as forward. But do continue.Whe you're right, you're right.
Let's move on from Graves when you have the likes of Ryan Murray and Kurtis MacDermid holding down the fort for the bottom pairing.
Was Bogosian a #2 when playing with Hedman? Of course not. That's not how it works.Since he's not playing for any other team any time soon, I can only tell you what he is on the NYR.
Hes going to match Fox ES minutes without any concern from the coach.
Hes going to log a ton of PK minutes as well.
He doesnt carry the offensive acumen that others may carry, but he is comfortably put out there in situations where you need to protect a lead or score a goal as again his chemistry with Fox is undeniable which allows the more gifted player to play to his strengths.
I'd like to hear what folks think the definition of a #2 looks like?
He seems like an excellent supporting partner for a #1 or #2. Whether that makes him a 3 or 4 it’s hard to say, as he doesn’t have a long track record or much time away from Fox. I’m not sure it really matters though. A lot of defensemen who aren’t stars can have their play affected heavily by system, partner and fit. He can play high leverage minutes with Fox on a great pairing. That’s all that should matter to the Rangers.