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And they'd have been doing it if we took Wright last year like they wanted.
HF Habs: What Kind Of Impact Does Slafkovsky need to have for rebuild to be successful?
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And they'd have been doing it if we took Wright last year like they wanted.
Team_Spirit
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Okay so if we operate on the comparable assumptions....let's say Slaf is a Horton style and Reinbacher is a McDonagh style.
But let's say.....
Suzuki is Bergeron
Caufield is Gaudreau
Guhle is Weber
Hutson is Fox
Mailloux is Sergachev
Dach is ,,,,,,
Newhook is ......
I would say our rebuild is pretty good.
I think we are heading in the right direction. Some of these prospects may hit peak comparables. If that happens, we are gold. It is not all incumbent on Slaf or Reinbacher hitting max potential.
And for the record, Slaf IMO is still the best pick from 22 and although I would have taken Michkov, I am cautiously optimistic that Reinbacher will hit.
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Depends on what Reinbacher becomes. If Slafkosvky becomes Nathan Horton and Reinbacher becomes Adam Larsson, then the scouts need to get fired because we wasted two years trying to get top 5 picks and neither is an elite piece.
As for the rebuild itself, it's going to depend on the other guys since Hughes implied that we got the skill up front already.
As for the rebuild itself, it's going to depend on the other guys since Hughes implied that we got the skill up front already.
The Gr8 Dane
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Imagine if Dach becomes prime Joe Thornton, Newhook is prime Stan Mikita and Reinbacher is Ray Bourque.Man .....I don't wanna burst your bubble or anything...
The rebuild would be just fine
No need to! The whole premise of this thread was based on a what if comparable putting Slaf in Nathan Horton shoes. My angle here was to point out, If Slaf becomes Horton, it could mean jack shit depending on what everyone else becomes.Man .....I don't wanna burst your bubble or anything...
I do think the rebuild has a chance at success and I've outlined the path of it before. I will see it as a success if we become cup contenders. In order for us to become cup contenders we need.....
Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield - to become 70-90 pts players on a first line
Newhook - Dach - **** - to become 60+ point players on a second line
Beck - to become a solid 2-way third line centre
1 or 2 of Roy, Farrell, Mesar, Kidney, Heinemen to hit max potential.
We need someone from our D corps to step into a top 10 defencemen in the league role. Probability of that happening in order...
Hutson
Guhle
Reinbacher
Mailloux
Barron
Engstrom
Xhekaj
The first three have the only real chance, obviously if one of them reached that height it would a huge score. Of the remaining D, we need them to keep growing as a unit. If you consider a top pair D to be the top 64 D in the league (32 teams), then Hutson, Reinbacher, Guhle and Mailloux all have that potential. Barron, Engstrom and Xhekaj could all reach top 128 potential (ie middle pairing) while playing on our bottom line.
We need Monty, Fowler, Miller or Dobes to become a legit top half of the league starter.
A lot of things need to happen IMO, but all are not out of the realm of possibility. I hope that some or all of these things happen. In terms of impact players.....I believe we are now only one away....and that is a top six winger to slot in with Newhook and Dach. Does Roy, Farrell, Mesar, Kid or Heine take that step? Time will tell, but I don't see them reaching that height.
I think Slaf is very important to the rebuild, even though I usually don’t put much pressure on first round picks, but after waiting 40 years for the first overall pick, he better become a special player. Within 5 years or so, I would like to see a 80+ point player who can impact a game with skill and with size. In order for a rebuild to be successful, we need to hit on the first round picks, especially when you have the first overall pick. The organization has missed on so many first round picks over the years and it’s contributed to a team that wasn’t as nearly as good as it should have been and that’s being kind.
Habs Halifax
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Expectations should be high but the #1 OA narrative is flawed. Slaf goes near 5 spot if he was in this last draft. Who's the best from Slaf, Nemec, Cooley, Wright, Jiricek? Only time will tell but we have to remember that all of them were projected to be very good 2nd tier talent with a chance they could be top tier.
80+ pts for a winger like Slaf is going to depend on the talent around him. Especially at center.
Did you get brainwashed also?
Slafkovsky is an Unicorn.
I'm gonna take the gamble that he reaches that Unicorn potential!
Habs Halifax
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Did you get brainwashed also?
Slafkovsky is an Unicorn.
I'm gonna take the gamble that he reaches that Unicorn potential!
Brainwashed or Reasonable? I value Slaf but I'm not putting that kind of pressure on him.
It doesn't matter what we're debating here.
They wouldn't have picked him first overall if they didn't think he had superstar potential!
So I don't see the point in tempering expectations...
Habs Halifax
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Nah, they picked what they felt was BPA and sometimes BPA (even at 1) is not superstar potential. We got to be realistic here. Bob said it best heading into that draft year... None of them are sure shot top tier talent but they have a chance. Listen to Bob
Habs Halifax
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I have his ceiling level as a Rantanen type. Base? Not sure... can't think of a good example.
Captain97
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It wasn't a great draft year to have the 1st overall 1-5 were all fairly similar. And Slaf likely would have gone between 5-9 this past year which was stacked.
In a normal year he probably goes 3-5 and if that player becomes a 30-30 forward with a good forecheck + size that's alright.
In a normal year he probably goes 3-5 and if that player becomes a 30-30 forward with a good forecheck + size that's alright.
Paddyjack
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Only if we took these players over available picks that became elite though.
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Would be extremely rare to not have any elite players in the top 5 of one year and then from the 5-10 range of the next year.
Mrb1p
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Unless theres a forward that pans out in a franchise player, yes.
Or unless Reinbacher/Guhle/Hutson or whatever develop into Pronger/Niedermeyer/Beauchemin.
So were literally a lotto win away from a succesful rebuild!
Or unless Reinbacher/Guhle/Hutson or whatever develop into Pronger/Niedermeyer/Beauchemin.
So were literally a lotto win away from a succesful rebuild!
Mrb1p
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Cant limit yourself to the top 5 in 2022, Slaf was ranked 5th behind two players that went top 15. Id say they need to outperform the top 15.
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WeThreeKings
Habs cup - its in the BAG
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Paddyjack
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And forwards only because.... Imagine for a moment that the only elite level players developping from last year's draft turn out to be defensemen. Now in such a scenario imagine further the Habs last year correctly choosing a Defenseman as 1OA because BPA.... the uproar it would have been lol
