Thunderstruck said:Actually mojo, now that the PA has accepted linkage, every fan they alienate and every day they waste that they and the teams could be selling tickets is money directly from their pockets.
gscarpenter2002 said:Chance of pact rejection = Minus one billion percent.
MojoJojo said:And what makes you think they arent vehemently arguing over the 54% number?
MojoJojo said:Keep on telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Yes BScarpeter is good at that .. Thats really all he does in fact ..MojoJojo said:Keep on telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, but there is almost certainly a sizable portion of PA members who will vote against the current rumoured deal. The chances they convince enough to vote with them is small, but a very real possibility.
The NHL has called its executive committee into New York for a meeting on Monday, at which point the commissioner and his legal team hopes to be in a position to hand over the agreement.
Ratification of this agreement is by no means a slam-dunk and is believed seven-10 days will be required to complete the process, which would zero in on mid-month as the beginning of a mammoth re-launch.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20050706_171050_5180
Ouch!!!!! A scathing retort from Massager (although you still don't have the stones to debate me any more after being humiliated repeatedly). It is probably for the best though, since I was starting to get worried about the impact of your nightly thrashings on your self esteem and whether it might impact your grade ten equivalency final exams.The Messenger said:Yes BScarpeter is good at that .. Thats really all he does in fact ..
The Sportsnet article just released has said this on he subject
The Messenger said:Yes BScarpeter is good at that .. Thats really all he does in fact ..
The Sportsnet article just released has said this on he subject
Of course not .. I love hockey as much as the next guy ..19bruins19 said:Question for the Pro PA guys like The Messenger. Do you want the players to pass up this deal or not?
blamebettman said:70% chance it gets voted down. There is a silent majority of angry players. Gary the idiot had his marching orders from the owners, they don't want to cancel another season, the players don't want that either. Voting it down would truly show that the players are serious and won't back down, it would put the owners in a corner and force them to give more concessions.
and it won't be the first time the players feigned collapse to get something out of the owners, they did this in 1995 and 1992 as well.
And I hope they do vote it down, stick it to Bettman and Wirtz, maybe they'll do us a favor and jump out of the NY offices.
blamebettman said:And I hope they do vote it down, stick it to Bettman and Wirtz, maybe they'll do us a favor and jump out of the NY offices.
Thunderstruck said:Do you seriously think they are going to get a deal without linkage by not ratifying?
Do you seriously think they can get the NHL to budge on the 54% number?
Have you been paying any attention to which side has the power and which side has caved?
The PA will take the bitter medicine reluctantly, but there is no chance they don't ratify.
blamebettman said:70% chance it gets voted down. There is a silent majority of angry players. Gary the idiot had his marching orders from the owners, they don't want to cancel another season, the players don't want that either. Voting it down would truly show that the players are serious and won't back down, it would put the owners in a corner and force them to give more concessions.
and it won't be the first time the players feigned collapse to get something out of the owners, they did this in 1995 and 1992 as well.
And I hope they do vote it down, stick it to Bettman and Wirtz, maybe they'll do us a favor and jump out of the NY offices.
Yeah that would work.craig1 said:If they do reject it, I hope the owners come back with an even lower offer.....one on a sliding scale that gets continuously lower until the union ratifies it.
This Pro-PA hockey fan says, end it, lace em up and get back on the ice.19bruins19 said:Question for the Pro PA guys like The Messenger. Do you want the players to pass up this deal or not?
Resolute said:Well, the current standard for agent fees is 3 or 3.5% of the value of the contract. 3% of $0 is $0. Agents are losing as much by this lockout as anyone else. Unless they actually believe that voting down this deal would lead to a better deal, they would be completely foolish to advise their players against ratification.
The ability of any team to compete on an even level is in the best interest of the fans. The argument that "star rookies" are considering Europe is a waste, and an obvious fabrication built by one agent trying to push for a special deal for his client.
Really, other than the claim by his agent that Crosby has an offer in Switzerland, how many other star rookies are being offered deals in Europe right now? I can think of Ovechkin and ...........
While I am not certian of the legalities of it, I suspect that lacking a union to collectively bargain, the owners would be free to decide on their own how much they want to cap salaries. You dont want to decertify? Sure! The cap is now $33 million, we will reach our own, internal agreement on how to enforce it, and any player who wants to play can sign at any time.
Also, I believe the players that just want to play are opposed to Goodenow, not supporting him. All reports suggest that BG has nothing to do with the current negotiations.
blamebettman said:I can't see them going with scabs, that would play right into the nhlpa's hands
jericholic19 said:So if the role of the agent is significantly diminished, isn't it possible their fees could drop dramatically? Hardly enticing deal for the player agents.
Which says a lot in and of itself, doesn't it. Disappointment over a ratified agreement to end the lockout.Digger12 said:You're going to be some disappointed when this deal gets ratified.