What 3 Players Need To Have The Biggest Years For Us?
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Schultz. We need a top pairing D badly and he has the best shot to become it next season.
Any other D step up and play like a top pairing D. We have no one that did this last year and need at least 2 to be competitive.
Scrivens/Fasth. One needs to step up and become a solid starter if we are going to go anywhere.
Any other D step up and play like a top pairing D. We have no one that did this last year and need at least 2 to be competitive.
Scrivens/Fasth. One needs to step up and become a solid starter if we are going to go anywhere.
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MacT - Because this roster is still a lottery team... 10th place if all stars align, and everyone exceeds expectations.
Eakins - Because he is a garbage coach
Eakins' Replacement - because he won't have the entire season to work with.
Eakins - Because he is a garbage coach
Eakins' Replacement - because he won't have the entire season to work with.
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Eakins
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Smith
no more Buchberger, ever
in all seriousness
RNH
Yakupov
J Schultz
HM: either goalie
Acton
Smith
no more Buchberger, ever
in all seriousness
RNH
Yakupov
J Schultz
HM: either goalie
1) Anton Lander - Of course many think he has topped out which shows our fan base's lack of patience to properly develop players. I think he is actually now primed and ready for NHL duty. He has progressed to be a top AHL player and has the character to translate that to the NHL level I think, if he could show it this year that would be amazing for us.
2) Arcobello - We should know better than to write him off just cause he's small. He can and should improve with the experience of last year. He, Lander and Gordon are currently our 2,3 and 4 centre's, we need them all to take a step up.
3) Yakupov- obvious reasons.
2) Arcobello - We should know better than to write him off just cause he's small. He can and should improve with the experience of last year. He, Lander and Gordon are currently our 2,3 and 4 centre's, we need them all to take a step up.
3) Yakupov- obvious reasons.
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Let's imagine for a second that everyone on this roster exceed expectations. The point totals will be:
Hall (90) - Nuge (70) - Eberle (80)
Perron (70) - 2C (XXX) - Yakupov (60)
Pouliot (50) - Draisaitl (50) - Purcell (45)
Schultz (50) - Petry (40)
That's not a 10th place team. That's a playoff team.
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McOvechking
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Each player's absolute realistic maximum for next season, I'd say. Or slightly above given the comment I was quoting, "everyone exceeds expectations".
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The Nuge - For obvious reasons, needs to be a pillar down the middle and really bring the offense
Scrivens/Fasth - the Goaltending sunk the season before it began last season, these need to be competent the entire year
Marincin/Klefbom - take a (or 2) top-4 spots in this blueline on a regular basis to be the starting point of a core group back there
HM- Yakupov, just bounce back and get back to the Cellies.
Scrivens/Fasth - the Goaltending sunk the season before it began last season, these need to be competent the entire year
Marincin/Klefbom - take a (or 2) top-4 spots in this blueline on a regular basis to be the starting point of a core group back there
HM- Yakupov, just bounce back and get back to the Cellies.
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Agreed, the Nuge is looking like a 2/3C with average offence at best, and Yak...he looks to be the worst 1st overall in like 20 years. Don't let that first year fool you, a shooting percentage up over 20 and like half his goals coming in the last 10 games. Thats a streak he'll be lucky to see once again for the rest of his career. If he even has one in the NHL. Scary stuff for a couple first overalls.
So obviously then:
1. Yak
2. RNH
3. Pouliot b/c this org needs to have a free agent signing work out in the worst way possible. I like the signing, but if it doesnt work we need to can the entire pro scouting staff. To many fudge ups over the years.
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Saying Nuge might be a 3rd line center with average offence at best really ruins your credibility...
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RNH
Fayne
Scrivens
We need legit #1 C performance from RNH. 70 points, good 2 way play
Fayne- we need his performance to carry over. i predict he plays the toughest minutes on the team, need him to come through
Scrivens- need a legit starting goalie performance so we dont get sunk early on
Yakupov can have an average year (20g-35a) and wed still be good if the above guys showed up
Fayne
Scrivens
We need legit #1 C performance from RNH. 70 points, good 2 way play
Fayne- we need his performance to carry over. i predict he plays the toughest minutes on the team, need him to come through
Scrivens- need a legit starting goalie performance so we dont get sunk early on
Yakupov can have an average year (20g-35a) and wed still be good if the above guys showed up
smackdaddy
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But of guys who are "important"
Niktin - we've got our "top 5" D back from last year and are adding Fayne in as well. I think Niktin could easily be a 4-5 guy on the team (even #6) so if he struggles and ends up 6-7 I don't think it's an absolute killer
Purcell - we need Pouliot more because he hits and plays some defensive hockey which we may need more than secondary scoring.... Purcell is soft, weak defensively, but provides some secondary scoring... I think a guy like Arco on the wing would be "grittier", play better defensively, and likely get as many points as Purcell if given the top 9 minutes that Purcell will get this year... so if Purcell bombs, I think we can find soemone to do a similar job.
Arco/Lander - since they will give Drai a spot regardless, I think we just need one of the 2 to pan out and be an asset
Fasth/Scrivens - basically the same as Arco/Lander, we only NEED one (ideally it'd be both playing well), if the other one bombs then the one playing well just plays more and more games
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ScrillaVilla
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Well he certainly didn't look like a #1 last year that's for sure.
1st 3 seasons of top 10 picks who might be considered #1 centers on their respective teams.
RNH - 132/182 = .72
Spezza - 166/179 = .92 points percentage
M.Koivu - 117/203 = .57
E.Stall - 201/245 = .82
Malkin - 304/231 = 1.32
Crosby - 294/213 = 1.38
Toews - 191/222 = .86
N.Backstrom - 258/246 = 1.04
L.Couture - 130/184 = .71
Stamkos - 232/243 = .95
Tavares - 202/243 = .83
Duchene - 150/219 = .68
Seguin - 121/203 = .59
R.Johansen - 96/189 = .51
So I suppose some hyperbole was involved in that statement as he is "in the range", also most of the guys who he tends to cluster with were not #1 centers there first 3 seasons. Also,if we compare to 1st overall picks only who have at least 3 seasons:
Crosby - 294/213 = 1.38
Stamkos - 232/243 = .95
Tavares - 202/243 = .83
So for a 1st overall he leaves a lot to be desired, although all the guys with the highest points percentage play in the east coast hockey league so...
I'd like to do a more in depth analysis as I suspect that his underlying numbers aren't quite as flattering although that has a lot to do with deployment, and since I am no fan of Eakins it wouldn't surprise me to see that he some of things Eakins has them doing are impacting performance in a negative fashion.
For example, MC79 is doing some interesting work that shows that after an OZ faceoff win last year with Gagner or RNH on the ice the oilers were terrible at generating shots for. This might be the result of a tactical deployment that has wingers more aggressively supporting a face off win which results in poor position making it easier for the opposition to regain the puck. His analysis did show that faceoff wins increased after a certain point last season but the drawback was that shots for after an OZ win plummeted.
So all in all, if RNH is our guy, this is his season to demonstrate that he's a number one center. Which is why I indicated that he needs to bounce back.
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RNH, J. Schultz and Scrivens, because your #1C, #1D and #1G are the 3 most important players to a team, and not one of ours is completely proven yet.
1) Justin Schultz - we need him to be an offensive D who is adequate in his own zone. I'm hoping he gets some leeway this year and is allowed to be more of an offensive weapon. He's got the tools to be a 60 point D consistently (and I think we need someone like that to help ignite the offense and to run the PP if we are going to be successful)
My prediction: better year but Eakins stifles his play too much and he isn't where we need him to be if we are to be successful
2) Draisatl - Oilers are going to throw him in, I bet almost everyone here believes that. He will be our #2 C and really if we are going to be more successful, 2nd line C has to be better. We probably need him around 50 points and I think he'll fall 10-20 points short. Defensively, he'll likely be overmatched as well especially as an 18 year old in our division/conference. I'm not saying he's going to be a bad player, but to be successful he needs to have a MacKinnon like year and likely face better competition than Mac did... and I don't see that happening.
3) top line health and production - I'm against playing hall/nuge/eberle together but the oilers will when they're healthy. If we are to be successful, that has to be one of the best lines in hockey and has to stay healthy (if any one of the 3 go down or struggles, then we have a lot harder time to exceed expectations)
I'm worried about Hall and Nuge's health, and I think all 3 have to take the next step as well if we want to even sniff the playoffs
HM: One of the goalies (obviously)
-I know most people mentioned Yak, but I don't see Eakins even giving the kid a chance really. I think he'll be third line with Pouliot and Arcobello playing 12 minutes a night (10th on icetime for forwards). If that's the role that will be given him, he'll provide more offense than most 3rd liners in the NHL but he'll have limited upside because of playing time....
And honestly we shouldnt pointing at a third line guy as being the guy that HAS to step up, Yak will have to "earn" his minutes which is fair if it works like that for everyone... but I bet Drai won't have to earn them next year... my prediction is that Eakins does a few power trip jerks and we see Larionov coming over again and more trade rumors with Yak being moved for something underwhelming
My prediction: better year but Eakins stifles his play too much and he isn't where we need him to be if we are to be successful
2) Draisatl - Oilers are going to throw him in, I bet almost everyone here believes that. He will be our #2 C and really if we are going to be more successful, 2nd line C has to be better. We probably need him around 50 points and I think he'll fall 10-20 points short. Defensively, he'll likely be overmatched as well especially as an 18 year old in our division/conference. I'm not saying he's going to be a bad player, but to be successful he needs to have a MacKinnon like year and likely face better competition than Mac did... and I don't see that happening.
3) top line health and production - I'm against playing hall/nuge/eberle together but the oilers will when they're healthy. If we are to be successful, that has to be one of the best lines in hockey and has to stay healthy (if any one of the 3 go down or struggles, then we have a lot harder time to exceed expectations)
I'm worried about Hall and Nuge's health, and I think all 3 have to take the next step as well if we want to even sniff the playoffs
HM: One of the goalies (obviously)
-I know most people mentioned Yak, but I don't see Eakins even giving the kid a chance really. I think he'll be third line with Pouliot and Arcobello playing 12 minutes a night (10th on icetime for forwards). If that's the role that will be given him, he'll provide more offense than most 3rd liners in the NHL but he'll have limited upside because of playing time....
And honestly we shouldnt pointing at a third line guy as being the guy that HAS to step up, Yak will have to "earn" his minutes which is fair if it works like that for everyone... but I bet Drai won't have to earn them next year... my prediction is that Eakins does a few power trip jerks and we see Larionov coming over again and more trade rumors with Yak being moved for something underwhelming
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1.Scrivens or Fasth
Great goaltending hides more warts than any other factor. If one of these guys steps up then at least the Oilers have a chance on any given night.
2. Schultz/Maricin/Klein on
Oilers are going into the season with 2, possibly 3 top four Dmen. One of these guys basically needs to become the Oilers best defenceman if we want a serviceable D core this season.
3. Draisaitl/Arco Bello
One of these guys needs to exceed expectations by a wide margin.
If this all happens and the Oilers have basically nothing else go wrong injuries or performance wise then they could be a playoff team.
Great goaltending hides more warts than any other factor. If one of these guys steps up then at least the Oilers have a chance on any given night.
2. Schultz/Maricin/Klein on
Oilers are going into the season with 2, possibly 3 top four Dmen. One of these guys basically needs to become the Oilers best defenceman if we want a serviceable D core this season.
3. Draisaitl/Arco Bello
One of these guys needs to exceed expectations by a wide margin.
If this all happens and the Oilers have basically nothing else go wrong injuries or performance wise then they could be a playoff team.
