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What’s your max offer for Val Nichushkin?
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Any hesitation to make a deal considering everything going on? How does that work if he gets stuck in Russia after the season and can't return? His wife I believe is currently in Moscow now.
Great player hope the political stage and war don't hamper this signing,
Great player hope the political stage and war don't hamper this signing,
I don't think EJ's contract is the equivalent of Marvel's Blob. The league is still way too much in love with grizzled, experienced veterans, and big defensemen with big shots from the point. EJ is both. Someone will want that guy if the Avs offer him up. Not sure who, but someone.
Bender
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I think they'll probably address second line center this summer but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world of Newhook started the year as #2C... and then you go from there and see how it goes and you address it if you need to during the season. He's going to have a full NHL season under his belt plus a playoff run which should do wonders for his development.
I could see the Avs making a play for Horvat and then resigning him long-term but fans won't like that price.
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expatriatedtexan
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I would want Sakic to go into the $6M range if he had to in order to keep him but based on the likely comparables I don't think he should have to.
niwotsblessing
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Having this dude post such gaudy stats is not helping our contract negotiations!
PS- I'd be happy giving him more term to keep his AAV down. Whatever he makes here will be worth a fortune when he retires to Russia. Or maybe he decides otherwise.
Changing vote from 5 to 6.
His best comparable is probably Zach Hyman, and he makes 5.5. While Hyman has had better production, Nuke has really shown that he can be a top 6 forward this year. While you would like to pay less, you absolutely go up to 6 million with term to keep him here.
With inflation being what it is the cap will have to substantially rise even if revenues aren't really going up.
I see it as:
Keep: Nuke, Sturm, Lek
Let walk: Kadri, Bura, Manson
And then swallow hard and cringe while handing Kuemper a fat contract.
His best comparable is probably Zach Hyman, and he makes 5.5. While Hyman has had better production, Nuke has really shown that he can be a top 6 forward this year. While you would like to pay less, you absolutely go up to 6 million with term to keep him here.
With inflation being what it is the cap will have to substantially rise even if revenues aren't really going up.
I see it as:
Keep: Nuke, Sturm, Lek
Let walk: Kadri, Bura, Manson
And then swallow hard and cringe while handing Kuemper a fat contract.
NateTheGreat
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This is my preferred off-season, with the exception of swapping Manson for Kuemper. While I love Kuemper, Manson brings a physical element to our D core that is needed with Makar, Toews, Byram in the top 4. I also hesitate to give goaltenders long term contracts in their 30's. Plus you can save money by paying Manson as opposed to giving Kuemper the big bucks.
KEEP NUKE AT ALL COST!!
flyfysher
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So I went back to the TC thread where Nichushkin was listed as a PTO. There was a poll of fans most interested to see players at TC. Only 7 Avs fan voted for Nichushkin. The only regular who voted for him that I recognized was @RoyIsALegend. Well done RIAL. Kudos on the call. FTR, that was 3 less votes than Rosen received.
Avs_19
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We don’t talk about that thread bro. No idea what you’re referring to. I definitely didn’t have any posts in that non-existent thread.
forsbergavs32
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Given some of the numbers thrown out here, that would be a steal. Seems like his best comparable.
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I'm on board with paying him whatever is necessary. I don't think he'll demand it, but look at the $7 million players around the league and tell me Val isn't better than most of them
Would be a complete steal.
Anything under 5.5 is a fantastic deal for us IMO.
5.5-6.5 and that's fair value. 6.5+ and we're overpaying IMO but I'd still do it.
forsbergavs32
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I doubt it happens, but it would be amazing if Landy really set a sentiment around this team last summer taking way less then he could have, to try and keep as much of this core together as possible, and we start seeing guys follow suit starting with Val this summer.
Because ultimately with how amazing Nuke is, its kind of hard to justify him getting more then 6 when Landy is only making 7 himself. Even though the reality is Landy is deserving of like 9 while Nuke could easily be worth 7.5.
I'm going to hold out hope that Val enjoys being here, and will hold appreciation for the Avs giving him that contract back in 2019 and completely rejuvenating his career, and he follows suit in the captains footsteps with a team friendly contract. Something like 6x5.5M is still a $33M payment for a guy that 3 years ago was on his way out of the league. Give him NTC as well.
It's unlikely he takes that discount, but I'm afraid he's pricing himself out of Denver with the year he's having now. He should hit 50+ points in less then 65 games while being absolutely elite at pretty much everything else on the ice as well. Other teams analytical departments are going to be pounding table to get Nuke signed as a UFA at whatever cost because he's that good.
Because ultimately with how amazing Nuke is, its kind of hard to justify him getting more then 6 when Landy is only making 7 himself. Even though the reality is Landy is deserving of like 9 while Nuke could easily be worth 7.5.
I'm going to hold out hope that Val enjoys being here, and will hold appreciation for the Avs giving him that contract back in 2019 and completely rejuvenating his career, and he follows suit in the captains footsteps with a team friendly contract. Something like 6x5.5M is still a $33M payment for a guy that 3 years ago was on his way out of the league. Give him NTC as well.
It's unlikely he takes that discount, but I'm afraid he's pricing himself out of Denver with the year he's having now. He should hit 50+ points in less then 65 games while being absolutely elite at pretty much everything else on the ice as well. Other teams analytical departments are going to be pounding table to get Nuke signed as a UFA at whatever cost because he's that good.
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Landeskog, Makar, and Rantanen definitely took less, but those guys were all home-grown Avs. Hard to know if Nichushkin will do the same.
He is the number one player I want to retain this off-season though. He just fits this team perfectly and has established himself as a clear top-6 forward. I think you have to consider going 8 years if it keeps the AAV down a bit.
He is the number one player I want to retain this off-season though. He just fits this team perfectly and has established himself as a clear top-6 forward. I think you have to consider going 8 years if it keeps the AAV down a bit.
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