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Having been beat by the Oilers yesterday, and how they seem to really be on the right path.... at least this year. I looked back to when the oilers last thought they had a contender. They had really good draft picks, talented and all but some reason wrong mix never got anywhere and they had to blow it up.
I love our guys, of course I do, but is this no matter how talented are top enders are, the right mix? If we do blow it this year (which I think we have...) is their a McDavid like player that can save us from our 7 year most likely 8th to 9th year of hell? This is a lot to take in but the similarities are huge. Read the very last few lines highlighted in red about the oilers below. Thanks everyone.
See the links and discuss if you like.
203-2015 Oilers (just showing main scorers)
Edmonton Oilers 2013-14 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com
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[TBODY] [/TBODY]2029-2020 Canucks
Vancouver Canucks 2019-20 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com
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2014-2015 Oilers
Edmonton Oilers 2014-15 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com
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[TBODY] [/TBODY]2020-2021 Canucks (yet to be finished , but so far they are at , so this is an open case. )
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[TBODY] [/TBODY]Now to the meat, this was a post from a reddit user from a year ago about why the oilers failed those years. Reading it now gives me goosebumps about the team this year. I will provide link only to show where the info comes from :
If you missed it above , red lines :
That feeling, that emotion, happened April 18th 2015. My office exploded a typical dull office day was filled with cheers and applaud cars outside were honking on Jasper Ave. It was not full blown win during a cup run game but it was something to cheer for. To this day I ask people if they remember where they were when they heard McDavid was an Oiler and lighting struck twice, everyone remembers every detail.
This was the moment, I fully believe that ownership realized that changes at the top had to happen and April 24th 2015 Peter Chiarelli became GM and President of Hockey Operations. Removing Kevin Lowe and Craig MacTavish from team management duties. Not even a week after winning the lottery.
This was officially the beginning of a new chapter in Oilers history. The McDavid effect was in full affect.
Closing.
I want to close in saying some people may look at us as lesser fans for celebrating a decade of hockey that had the lowest of lows at times. To those I say you cannot truly appreciate the highs without respecting the lows. This very well may go down as one of the darkest decades in Oilers history but every team in every sport has a turning point and I believe we will look back in 10 years from now and point directly to this season as the catalyst to many great runs.
I love our guys, of course I do, but is this no matter how talented are top enders are, the right mix? If we do blow it this year (which I think we have...) is their a McDavid like player that can save us from our 7 year most likely 8th to 9th year of hell? This is a lot to take in but the similarities are huge. Read the very last few lines highlighted in red about the oilers below. Thanks everyone.
See the links and discuss if you like.
203-2015 Oilers (just showing main scorers)
Edmonton Oilers 2013-14 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com
# | Player Name | Pos. | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | +/- | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | Birthplace | Age |
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4 | Taylor Hall | L | 75 | 27 | 53 | 80 | 44 | -15 | ALTA: Calgary | 21 | |||||
14 | Jordan Eberle | R | 80 | 28 | 37 | 65 | 18 | -11 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | SASK: Regina | 23 |
57 | David Perron | L | 78 | 28 | 29 | 57 | 90 | -16 | PQ: Sherbrooke | 25 | |||||
93 | Ryan Nugent-Hopkins | C | 80 | 19 | 37 | 56 | 26 | -12 | BC: Burnaby | 20 | |||||
89 | Sam Gagner | C | 67 | 10 | 27 | 37 | 41 | -29 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | ONT: London | 24 |
19 | Justin Schultz | D | 74 | 11 | 22 | 33 | 16 | -22 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | BC: Kelowna | 23 |
83 | Ales Hemsky 1 | R | 55 | 9 | 17 | 26 | 20 | -13 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | Czech Rep.: Pardubice | 30 |
64 | Nail Yakupov | R | 63 | 11 | 13 | 24 | 36 | -33 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | Russia: Nizhnekamsk | 19 |
94 | Ryan Smyth | L | 72 | 10 | 13 | 23 | 44 | -18 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | ALTA: Banff | 37 |
27 | Boyd Gordon | C | 74 | 8 | 13 | 21 | 20 | -15 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | SASK: Unity | 29 |
26 | Mark Arcobello | F | 41 | 4 | 14 | 18 | 8 | -7 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | CT: Milford | 25 |
21 | Andrew Ference | D | 71 | 3 | 15 | 18 | 63 | -18 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | ALTA: Edmonton | 34 |
2 | Jeff Petry | D | 80 | 7 | 10 | 17 | 42 | -22 | MI: Ann Arbor | 25 | |||||
36 | Philip Larsen | D | 30 | 3 | 9 | 12 | 8 | -4 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | Denmark: Esbjerg | 2 |
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Vancouver Canucks 2019-20 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com
# | Player Name | Pos. | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | +/- | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | Birthplace | Age |
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9 | J.T. Miller | C | 69 | 27 | 45 | 72 | 47 | 11 | 17 | 6 | 12 | 18 | 14 | OH: East Palestine | 26 |
40 | Elias Pettersson | C | 68 | 27 | 39 | 66 | 18 | 16 | 17 | 7 | 11 | 18 | 2 | Sweden: Sundsvall | 20 |
53 | Bo Horvat | C | 69 | 22 | 31 | 53 | 21 | -15 | 17 | 10 | 2 | 12 | 4 | ONT: London | 24 |
43 | Quinn Hughes | D | 68 | 8 | 45 | 53 | 22 | -10 | 17 | 2 | 14 | 16 | 2 | FL: Orlando | 19 |
70 | Tanner Pearson | L | 69 | 21 | 24 | 45 | 27 | -4 | 17 | 4 | 4 | 8 | 4 | ONT: Kitchener | 27 |
6 | Brock Boeser | R | 57 | 16 | 29 | 45 | 14 | 4 | 17 | 4 | 7 | 11 | 10 | MN: Burnsville | 22 |
18 | Jake Virtanen | R | 69 | 18 | 18 | 36 | 41 | -4 | 16 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 25 | BC: Langley | 23 |
88 | Adam Gaudette | C | 59 | 12 | 21 | 33 | 37 | -7 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | MA: Braintree | 22 |
23 | Alexander Edler | D | 59 | 5 | 28 | 33 | 62 | 13 | 17 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 20 | Sweden: Ostersund | 33 |
57 | Tyler Myers | D | 68 | 6 | 15 | 21 | 49 | -7 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 24 | TX: Houston | 29 |
8 | Christopher Tanev | D | 69 | 2 | 18 | 20 | 41 | 4 | 17 | 1 | 6 | 7 | 4 | ONT: Toronto | 29 |
17 | Joshua Leivo | L | 36 | 7 | 12 | 19 | 4 | 0 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | ONT: Innisfil | 26 |
20 | Brandon Sutter | C | 44 | 8 | 9 | 17 | 25 | 1 | 17 | 1 | 5 | 6 | 4 | NY: Huntington | 30 |
51 | Troy Stecher | D | 69 | 5 | 12 | 17 | 32 | 10 | 17 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 10 | BC: Richmond | 25 |
26 | Antoine Roussel | L | 41 | 7 | 6 | 13 | 43 | 0 | 17 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 46 | France: Roubaix | 29 |
21 | Loui Eriksson | L | 49 | 6 | 7 | 13 | 12 | -2 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | Sweden: Gothenburg | 34 |
73 | Tyler Toffoli 1 | R | 10 | 6 | 4 | 10 | 4 | 3 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 | ONT: Scarborough | 27 |
64 | Tyler Motte | C | 34 | 4 | 4 | 8 | 10 | -10 | 17 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 2 | MI: St. Clair | 24 |
83 | Jay Beagle | C | 55 | 2 | 6 | 8 | 38 | -9 | 17 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 10 | ALTA: Calgary | 33 |
4 | Jordie Benn | D | 44 | 1 | 6 | 7 | 17 | -7 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | BC: Victoria | 32 |
71 | Zack MacEwen | C | 17 | 5 | 1 | 6 | 20 | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9 | PEI: Charlottetown | 23 |
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2014-2015 Oilers
Edmonton Oilers 2014-15 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com
# | Player Name | Pos. | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | +/- | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | Birthplace | Age |
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14 | Jordan Eberle | R | 81 | 24 | 39 | 63 | 24 | -16 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | SASK: Regina | 24 |
93 | Ryan Nugent-Hopkins | C | 76 | 24 | 32 | 56 | 25 | -12 | BC: Burnaby | 21 | |||||
4 | Taylor Hall | L | 53 | 14 | 24 | 38 | 40 | -1 | ALTA: Calgary | 22 | |||||
67 | Benoit Pouliot | L | 58 | 19 | 15 | 34 | 28 | -1 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | ONT: Alfred | 27 |
16 | Ted Purcell | R | 82 | 12 | 22 | 34 | 24 | -33 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | NFLD: St. John's | 28 |
10 | Nail Yakupov | R | 81 | 14 | 19 | 33 | 18 | -35 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | Russia: Nizhnekamsk | 20 |
19 | Justin Schultz | D | 81 | 6 | 25 | 31 | 12 | -17 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | BC: Kelowna | 24 |
8 | Derek Roy 1 | C | 46 | 11 | 11 | 22 | 22 | -13 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | ONT: Ottawa | 31 |
51 | Anton Lander | C | 38 | 6 | 14 | 20 | 14 | -12 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | Sweden: Sundsvall | 23 |
84 | Oscar Klefbom | D | 60 | 2 | 18 | 20 | 4 | -21 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | Sweden: Karlstad | 21 |
57 | David Perron 2 | L | 38 | 5 | 14 | 19 | 20 | -17 | PQ: Sherbrooke | 26 | |||||
23 | Matt Hendricks | C | 71 | 8 | 8 | 16 | 76 | -14 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | MN: Blaine | 33 |
2 | Jeff Petry 3 | D | 59 | 4 | 11 | 15 | 32 | -25 | MI: Ann Arbor | 26 | |||||
21 | Andrew Ference | D | 70 | 3 | 11 | 14 | 39 | -17 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | ALTA: Edmonton | 35 |
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# | Name | Pos | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | +/- | Birthdate | Age | Birthplace | Hght | Wght |
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6 | Brock Boeser | R | 23 | 12 | 10 | 22 | 10 | -4 | 1997-02-25 | 23 | Burnsville, MN | 6.01 | 208 |
43 | Quinn Hughes | D | 23 | 2 | 19 | 21 | 8 | -13 | 1999-10-14 | 20 | Orlando, FL | 5.10 | 170 |
9 | J.T. Miller | C | 20 | 4 | 15 | 19 | 14 | -5 | 1993-03-14 | 27 | East Palestine, OH | 6.01 | 218 |
40 | Elias Pettersson | C | 23 | 8 | 10 | 18 | 6 | -1 | 1998-11-12 | 21 | Sundsvall, Sweden | 6.02 | 176 |
53 | Bo Horvat | C | 23 | 9 | 7 | 16 | 6 | -8 | 1995-04-05 | 25 | London, ONT | 6.00 | 215 |
57 | Tyler Myers | D | 23 | 3 | 8 | 11 | 37 | 0 | 1990-02-01 | 30 | Houston, TX | 6.08 | 229 |
70 | Tanner Pearson | L | 23 | 5 | 4 | 9 | 22 | -5 | 1992-08-10 | 28 | Kitchener, ONT | 6.01 | 200 |
36 | Nils Hoglander | L | 23 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 6 | -3 | 2000-12-20 | 19 | Bocktrask, Sweden | 5.09 | 185 |
64 | Tyler Motte | C | 15 | 5 | 1 | 6 | 12 | -1 | 1995-03-10 | 25 | St. Clair, MI | 5.10 | 192 |
8 | Jordie Benn | D | 17 | 1 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 2 | 1987-07-26 | 33 | Victoria, BC | 6.02 | 199 |
20 | Brandon Sutter | C | 23 | 6 | 0 | 6 | 2 | -2 | 1989-02-14 | 31 | Huntington, NY | 6.03 | 190 |
88 | Nate Schmidt | D | 23 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | -1 | 1991-07-16 | 29 | St. Cloud, MN | 6.00 | 194 |
83 | Jay Beagle | C | 23 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 6 | -1 | 1985-10-16 | 34 | Calgary, ALTA | 6.03 | 210 |
23 | Alexander Edler | D | 22 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 24 | -5 | 1986-04-21 | 34 | Ostersund, Sweden | 6.03 | 212 |
26 | Antoine Roussel | L | 22 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 31 | 3 | 1989-11-21 | 30 | Roubaix, France | 5.11 | 199 |
27 | Travis Hamonic | D | 5 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 1990-08-16 | 30 | St. Malo, MAN | 6.02 | 205 |
96 | Adam Gaudette | C | 19 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 8 | -8 | 1996-10-03 | 23 | Braintree, MA | 6.01 | 170 |
25 | Brogan Rafferty | D | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | -1 | 1995-05-28 | 25 | West Dundee, IL | 6.00 | 195 |
21 | Loui Eriksson | L | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | -2 | 1985-07-17 | 35 | Gothenburg, Sweden | 6.02 | 179 |
49 | Braden Holtby | G | 10 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1989-09-16 | 30 | Lloydminster, SASK | 6.02 | 214 |
71 | Zack MacEwen | C | 13 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 17 | 1 | 1996-07-08 | 24 | Charlottetown, PEI | 6.03 | 205 |
48 | Olli Juolevi | D | 15 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 1998-05-05 | 22 | Helsinki, Finland | 6.02 | 182 |
18 | Jake Virtanen | R | 18 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 22 | -3 | 1996-08-17 | 24 | Langley, BC | 6.01 | 226 |
95 | Justin Bailey | R | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | -2 | 1995-07-01 | 25 | Buffalo, NY | 6.04 | 214 |
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If you missed it above , red lines :
That feeling, that emotion, happened April 18th 2015. My office exploded a typical dull office day was filled with cheers and applaud cars outside were honking on Jasper Ave. It was not full blown win during a cup run game but it was something to cheer for. To this day I ask people if they remember where they were when they heard McDavid was an Oiler and lighting struck twice, everyone remembers every detail.
This was the moment, I fully believe that ownership realized that changes at the top had to happen and April 24th 2015 Peter Chiarelli became GM and President of Hockey Operations. Removing Kevin Lowe and Craig MacTavish from team management duties. Not even a week after winning the lottery.
This was officially the beginning of a new chapter in Oilers history. The McDavid effect was in full affect.
Closing.
I want to close in saying some people may look at us as lesser fans for celebrating a decade of hockey that had the lowest of lows at times. To those I say you cannot truly appreciate the highs without respecting the lows. This very well may go down as one of the darkest decades in Oilers history but every team in every sport has a turning point and I believe we will look back in 10 years from now and point directly to this season as the catalyst to many great runs.