Were the Blackhawks treated unfairly with the Bickell trade?

[bambamcam4ever]

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's "ignorant." The signs were there for years. Everything from concussions to alcoholism to plain old laziness were blamed. But somehow over all that time they never arrived at a diagnosis that his new doctors did in a matter of weeks. Face it, the Blackhawks handled his situation very poorly.

It's possible the Blackhawks team doctors diagnosed it, but didn't tell the player as that would destroy his trade value.

It sounds harsh, but I wouldn't put anything past that organization.

 

[crowi]

**** off. Blackhawks and unfair, huh. Why should they benefit from Bickell having MS? Terrible.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Uh no, they weren't. MS is a terrible disease but from a hockey perspective it's no different than a player being unable to play well (or at all) due to recurring back issues or post concussion syndrome.

 

[dogbazinho]

The entire league was treated unfairly when LAK got out of the cap hit the way they did. Detroit did things the right way so it looks unfair in comparison.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

It's possible the Blackhawks team doctors diagnosed it, but didn't tell the player as that would destroy his trade value.

It sounds harsh, but I wouldn't put anything past that organization.

That would ruin their lives if they were caught. Disbarred and sued into total finacial destitution.

Besides which, if they did diagnose him, they could ltir his contract away. No need to trade him.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

That would ruin their lives if they were caught. Disbarred and sued into total finacial destitution.

Besides which, if they did diagnose him, they could ltir his contract away. No need to trade him.

Good point on the LTIR, but doctors in sports have lied about plenty of things that would get their license revoked.

 

[HisIceness]

Come now. Don't you know by now that North Carolina is podunk? Or perhaps you meant its known for its veterinary medical sector. I mean I drive to work through dirt roads and mudholes in my 1930s era pick-up truck every day, assuming Farmer Brown's pigs don't escape and start congregating on I-40. It's positively impossible for a metropolitan area with three major research universities (two of which have nationally known hospitals) as well as branch offices of the NIH and several biotech/pharma companies to possibly have top flight neurologists.

Whoa whoa whoa! Who you calling podunk there pal?

I'll have you know that I just recently discovered that those 'newspaper' things that we usually use as toilet paper in the outhouse actually have words in them, and those words tell us things that we would have never known. For example, did you know that there are actually two Koreas? A North and a South? I bet you didn't! But I do, sucker.

Now if you'll please excuse me, I gotta go. My cousin, err wife just called me to dinner. We're having squirrel stew. Tomorrow we're going out to Waffle House for our anniversary. Sophistication y'all!

 

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Chicago complaining about fairness? hah.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Vancouver never got compensation when Bourbon a top prospect was killed in a traffic accident.
Or the Rangers never got an additional pick when their # 1 pick died in Russia.
Hawks mistake was paying Bickell 4m for one good season and playoff.

 

[Marshall]

A wrongful sense of entitlement is an ugly thing.

 

[Paris in Flames]

Vancouver never got compensation when Bourbon a top prospect was killed in a traffic accident.
Or the Rangers never got an additional pick when their # 1 pick died in Russia.
Hawks mistake was paying Bickell 4m for one good season and playoff.

But they did.

47th overall in the 2009 draft.

 

[Ezekial]

This is a nice thread, I especially liked the Carolina can't possibly medicine part.

 

[Statto]

Really? MS isn't something that is just diagnosed, there is really no test for it and everything possible has to be ruled out before the MS idea is considered .... It's not like "oh, you have MS"... That diagnosis takes time... Sure, it can be suspected but since there is no test, other ideas are explored....

If it matters the original diagnosis was "vertigo".... I mean it was clear there was something wrong with him, he couldn't keep his balance and would fall unassisted..

I will say this much, I'm shocked the Hawks didn't shelf him when he started falling consistently.

As we are arguing in part about who in this thread knows most about MS the answer is me, so far. I've had it for 11 years.

You are correct though it is hard to diagnose. It took a year to initially misdiagnose me with something else and then another 7 years to decide they were wrong and that it was MS after all. I had no brain lesions for 7 years only on my spinal cord so it was not a typical presentation. As has been stated it's diagnosed by eliminating other causes which in my case took years. I was being treated at one of the worlds besr neurology units too.

It's not all bad news though. I had a stem cell transplant in October and my MS is in remission. I'm not allowed to say cure, but that's more of a technicality.

 

[Not So Mighty]

Yeah the league should help Chicago even more. Like with this Marian Hossa cap circumvention. And like the Patrick Kane cap circumvention of the 2015 playoffs. Give Chicago a chance!

 

[ColdSteel2]

Yeah the league should help Chicago even more. Like with this Marian Hossa cap circumvention. And like the Patrick Kane cap circumvention of the 2015 playoffs. Give Chicago a chance!

Call me a loser but I think about the 2015 Ducks series at least once a week since it happened. Vintage Hawks.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

It's unfair to put any value on what happened to BB.

What is great, is that he can finally get the medical help he needs. The only compensation I want as a fan is seeing him live a long healthy life.

As for Hossa, the guy was a warrior, but his cap hit now gives the Hawks some much, much needed cap relief that they can use to their advantage. Hossas situation is win/win. Hoss is allowed to retire with dignity while the Hawks can use that cap money and load up yet again for another Cup run.

 

[Statto]

What is great, is that he can finally get the medical help he needs. The only compensation I want as a fan is seeing him live a long healthy life.

Amen.

 

[oconnor9sean]

1) If anyone deserves the sandwich pick, it'd be Carolina. Not the 'Canes' fault that they took advantage of Bowman giving him a horrible contract and getting stuck

2) This is like that r/hockey thread a few months ago titled, "Should the NHL force Chicago and Nashville to replay the series since it was a fluke?"

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

But they did.

47th overall in the 2009 draft.

Which is the standard compensation for a first round draft pick who is unsigned. You get a pick 30 spots later than where you drafted them.

He obviously wasn't able to be signed but the rule stands.