Confirmed with Link: Wallinder signs 3 year ELC

[Go Wings]

I was at training camp in 2007 when Grigorenko came over. Somewhere I still have a notebook with extensive notes I took. But the gist of it was that he was still very much physically limited. He couldn't keep up with other players, he was winded very quickly, and was last in any drill having to do with speed. You could certainly see the skill, but he was nowhere near NHL speed. He stuck out like a sore thumb against guys 1/10th as good as him. After that camp, I was pretty sure he'd be going back to Russia. Because even though I didn't see any of those 5 Griffs games, I don't have much doubt that he was falling behind in the AHL as well. It wasn't just his rebuilt leg that hindered him back then, he also had that lung embolism he had to get over.

I've read accounts in the past that it took him another 1-2 years after that camp to get up to reasonable pro hockey pace. And when you look at his stats in Russia, that seems to jive. He really didn't start putting up points until the 2009-10 season. By then he was surely good enough for the AHL and, who knows, maybe could have pushed for an NHL job. But he was 27yo at that point, that ship seemed to have sailed.

Anyway, hopefully Wallinder fairs better in NA

Jaster thanks for sharing that information it was quite informative.
There will always be in my mind what might have been if not for that accident. However the most important thing which I know you agree is that he survived. The fact that he played any hockey at all after that was impressive.

I wouldn't be surprised if AlJo is good enough and seasoned enough to break camp with the Wings next season, but unfortunately for him the depth chart is not very favorable, unless Yzerman makes some moves. I suspect him and Wallinder will both be in GR to start the season. I like Sebrango, but he's waiver-exempt for another 2 years, and I don't see him being in the equation until around that point.

Unless Yzerman does make moves, I think our D to start the season is looking like....

Walman-Seider
Maatta - Chiarot
Ed - someone RH who is hopefully good for Ed

Lindstrom will either remain a depth guy who rotates in, or be in another organization.

Agreed that was what I was envisioning for defense next season. I think a veteran stay at home defensemen would match best with Ed.

 

[jaster]

Jaster thanks for sharing that information it was quite informative.
There will always be in my mind what might have been if not for that accident. However the most important thing which I know you agree is that he survived. The fact that he played any hockey at all after that was impressive.


Agreed that was what I was envisioning for defense next season. I think a veteran stay at home defensemen would match best with Ed.

I remember when that accident happened hearing that it was really "bad." I feel like I didn't realize just how close to death he was until later on. But yeah, glad he pulled through, and super impressive he went on to have a long pro hockey career.

Too many guys in recent Wings history who qualify for that "what might have been." Vladdy, Fischer, Grigs. Sucks.

 

[jaster]

You could also just make Chiarot to play right handed because it probably doesn't really change how ineffective he is. Already under contract, so why not try all options.

Hell, I'm not even sure Chiarot would notice if you gave him a RH stick.

 

[sepster]

I remember when that accident happened hearing that it was really "bad." I feel like I didn't realize just how close to death he was until later on. But yeah, glad he pulled through, and super impressive he went on to have a long pro hockey career.

Too many guys in recent Wings history who qualify for that "what might have been." Vladdy, Fischer, Grigs. Sucks.

I remember specifically where I was when word broke about his accident. I was hoping he'd pull through and recover the way Kozlov did, but yeah, no dice.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Hell, I'm not even sure Chiarot would notice if you gave him a RH stick.

Whoever Chiarot's D partner is should bear the responsibility of slashing ad breaking Chiarot's LH stick so that Perron or Raymond have to give him their RH stick in the defensive zone

 

[datsyukfan]

I've been a massive fan of albert johansson from the start. I just get the feeling he will be the odd man out. He not a special enough skater and passer to make up for the fact he's not a stereotypical yzerman defensemen.

I would maybe agree with you but I do think the one big thing he has going for him in the organization is that lidstrom raves about him. That will go a long ways.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Hell, I'm not even sure Chiarot would notice if you gave him a RH stick.

I like this comment

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

This is where extending both Walman and Maatta was curious. Clearly Yzerman feels the LDs in the system need some "over ripening".
Seems Ike AlJo and Wallinder are certain to be in GR at the start of next season.

Will be very interesting to see how the D pairs shake out over the offseason. A vet RHD will almost certainly be brought in from somewhere.

 

[Detroit Knights]

I would maybe agree with you but I do think the one big thing he has going for him in the organization is that lidstrom raves about him. That will go a long ways.

True. But Yzerman has also said he is seeing great things from AlJo and said he may be overshadowed by Edvinsson but AlJo deserves some praise too.

He said that in some intermission or commercial break sometime in the past month or two.

 

[GoBoltz56]

I've been a massive fan of albert johansson from the start. I just get the feeling he will be the odd man out. He not a special enough skater and passer to make up for the fact he's not a stereotypical yzerman defensemen.

I know the system/coaching in GR is a joke, but I have started to question his overall IQ now.

 

[DoMakc]

I know the system/coaching in GR is a joke, but I have started to question his overall IQ now.

I think you are thinking of Edvinsson, his low IQ is attested by Scouching

 

[Henkka]

We better find a way to sign a UFA RD or trade for one so that is not our middle pair. Otherwise I will be very grumpy.

I could expect both will happen.

Yzerman will sign summer UFA RhD.

And at some point, he'll trade one of the younger lefties for a righty. But we'll see some seasoning of the kids before that happens.

 

[Killerjas]

I think you are thinking of Edvinsson, his low IQ is attested by Scouching

I remember that, let me share his notes here, give me 10 minutes

 

[Killerjas]

I think you are thinking of Edvinsson, his low IQ is attested by Scouching

I quote:

His decision making, puck handling and offensive power are a bit questionable. He is good defensively, using his stick and his skating ability. Shows flashes of high ceiling. Wildcard with the puck. Bit of a risky pick. I’m curious about the raw potential in Simon Edvinsson’s refined defensive talent and if he can learn to manage the puck with more confidence and consistency. While he is not the flashiest player, and certainly not without issues, Edvinsson is a player that adds defensive stability and offensive potential that could be a great add to the massive stable of future talent in grey and black. He's got strong defensive acumen more often than not, and if his puck management comes along and he gets more comfortable surveying the ice and executing his decisions, he could be great. Edvinsson's game has certainly settled down as the year goes on. He's a player who can be a ton of fun to watch until he isn't. His puck management needed to simplify far more often, and that seems to be happening, but he's unafraid to attack the neutral zone with skill and power through his skating. His ability to shut down defensive transitions is highly underrated, his ability to shut down defensive transitions is highly underrated. Risky, absolutely. Stash him in Sweden for a few years and continue to work on his fundamentals, and there could be a really interesting two-way defenseman. Offensive game is held back by his decision making and puck management.

 

[lhsgolf19]

 

[GrGriffins]

GRIFFINS SIGN WILLIAM WALLINDER TO ATO​

March 30, 2023
GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. – The Grand Rapids Griffins on Thursday signed defenseman William Wallinder to an amateur tryout.
Wallinder was selected with the 32nd overall pick by the Detroit Red Wings in the 2020 NHL Entry Draft. The 20-year-old on Monday was also signed to a three-year entry-level contract by the Red Wings, beginning in the 2023-24 campaign. Wallinder just finished the Swedish Hockey League season with Rogle BK and totaled 26 points (7-19—26) in 50 regular-season games, which tied for first among U21 players in the SHL. Throughout two SHL campaigns from 2021-23, the Solleftea, Sweden, native amassed 11 goals, 34 assists and 16 penalty minutes in 97 appearances. A season ago, Wallinder registered the most points in the SHL by a junior with 19 (4-15—19) in 47 outings. At the 2022 World Junior Championship, the 6-foot-4 defenseman helped Team Sweden earn a bronze medal when he recorded three helpers in seven games. During the 2021-22 season, Wallinder was named the Swedish Junior Hockey Player of the Year when he totaled 19 points (4-15—19) in 47 SHL games and four points (1-3—4) in seven contests in the J20 Nationell.

 

[RRhoads]

I don't put much stock in what Scouching and the other wannabe scouts are saying. They are more wrong than right.

 

[Killerjas]

I don't put much stock in what Scouching and the other wannabe scouts are saying. They are more wrong than right.

Scouching had him 1st round as we pleased where we got Simon. He had Wallinder late 1st and LOVED that kid

 

[Henkka]

Was #36 on my rank.

Pick	AVG	Range	Pos	2020 draft	Size/Hand	Nation	Final Pick	vs. Rank	Team
1	1,0	1	LW	Alexis Lafreniere	6'1 - L	CAN	1	0	NYR
2	2,0	2-4	C	Quinton Byfield	6'4 - L	CAN	2	0	LAK
3	2,4	2-4	C/LW	Tim Stützle	5'11 - L	GER	3	0	OTT
4	3,0	2-9	RW	Lucas Raymond	5'10 - R	SWE	4	0	DET
5	4,2	3-8	LW	Alexander Holtz	6'0 - R	SWE	7	-2	NJD
6	4,4	3-9	C/LW	Cole Perfetti	5'10 - L	CAN	10	-4	WPG
7	4,8	3-16	C	Anton Lundell	6'1 - L	FIN	12	-5	FLO
8	5,2	5-8	RD	Jamie Drysdale	5'11 - R	CAN	6	2	ANA
9	5,6	5-10	C	Marco Rossi	5'9 - L	AUT	9	0	MIN
10	8,7	7-18	G	Jaroslav Askarov	6'3 - R	RUS	11	-1	NSH
11	9,4	8-31	LD	Jake Sanderson	6'1 - L	USA	5	+6 reach	OTT
12	10,4	7-44	LW	Rodion Amirov	6'0 - L	RUS	15	-3	TOR
13	11,6	10-25	C	Dylan Holloway	6'0 - L	CAN	14	-1	EDM
14	11,8	12-34	RW	Noel Gunler	6'1 - R	SWE	41	-27 FALL	CAR
15	11,8	10-30	C	Connor Zary	6'0 - L	CAN	24	-9 fall	CGY
16	12,4	11-25	C/RW	Dawson Mercer	6'0 - R	CAN	18	-2	NJD
17	12,6	11-27	C/RW	Seth Jarvis	5'9 - R	CAN	13	4	CAR
18	13,0	10-59	C/LW	Jan Mysak	6'0 - L	CZE	48	-30 FALL	MTL
19	14,2	13-23	RW	Jack Quinn	6'0 - R	CAN	8	+11 REACH	BUF
20	14,4	11-98	RD	Helge Grans	6'3 - R	SWE	35	+15 REACH	LAK
21	15,6	14-34	LD	Kaiden Guhle	6'3 - L	CAN	16	+5 REACH	MTL
22	16,6	11-58	RD	Justin Barron	6'2 - R	CAN	25	-3	COL
23	17,4	17-44	C	Mavrik Bourque	5'10 - R	CAN	30	-7	DAL
24	17,8	13-41	RD	Braden Schneider	6'2 - R	CAN	19	+5 reach	NYR
25	18,1	12-62	RW	Zion Nybeck	5'7 - L	SWE	115	-90 FALL	CAR
26	18,2	14-43	LD	Jeremie Poirier	6'0 - L	CAN	72	-46 FALL	CGY
27	18,8	17-39	C	Jacob Perreault	5'11 - R	CAN	27	0	ANA
28	19,2	12-76	C	Marat Khusnutdinov	5'10 - L	RUS	37	-9 fall	MIN
29	20,5	16-69	C	Hendrix Lapierre	5'11 - L	CAN	22	+7 REACH	WSH
30	20,8	15-55	LW	John-Jason Peterka	5'10 - L	GER	34	-4	BUF
31	20,8	15-47	LD	Emil Andrae	5'9 - L	SWE	54	-23 FALL	PHI
Pick	AVG	Range	Pos	2020 draft	Size/Hand	Nation	Draft	vs. Rank	Team
32	22,2	14-79	C	Brendan Brisson	5'11 - L	USA	29	+3 reach	VGK
33	23,9	21-58	C	Roni Hirvonen	5'9 - L	FIN	59	-26 FALL	TOR
34	24,6	20-68	LD	Lukas Cormier	5'9 - L	CAN	68	-34 FALL	VGK
35	24,6	23-48	LW	Lukas Reichel	6'0 - L	GER	17	+18 REACH	CHI
36	25,6	21-73	LD	William Wallinder	6'4 - L	SWE	32	+4 REACH	DET
37	25,6	16-57	RD	Topi Niemelä	6'0 - R	FIN	64	-27 FALL	TOR

 

[SCD]

Now that Wallinder has made it over to GR, does Yzerman leave him on his off side, or try to transition back to LD?

 

[Henkka]

Now that Wallinder has made it over to GR, does Yzerman leave him on his off side, or try to transition back to LD?

Imo, he played a lot as LD with a righty partner for Rögle. Some games on off-side with different partner, but there hasn't been anything long-term change. It's nice that he can handle both sides.

I think he should be paired with Johansson at GR, and find it out which one of them is better (or less worse) on off-side. Try both ways.

Wallinder - Johansson
Johansson - Wallinder

 

[SCD]

Imo, he played a lot as LD with a righty partner for Rögle. Some games on off-side with different partner, but there hasn't been anything long-term change. It's nice that he can handle both sides.

I think he should be paired with Johansson at GR, and find it out which one of them is better (or less worse) on off-side. Try both ways.

Wallinder - Johansson
Johansson - Wallinder

With Edvinsson's injury, I think it is a good chance Johansson starts in Detroit.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

 

[Dotter]

What's his projection?

 

[Perfect Human]

What's his projection?

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