Proposal: W. Nylander for M. Tkachuk

[Americanadian]

Nylander to the flames to take up the 1RW spot, Tkachuk to the leafs to displace Hyman in the 1LW spot. Who adds?

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[rent free]

as a leafs fan, no to this proposal. there is a possibility that nylander plays C next season and that will most likely happen if we can't get a 3C in free agency

 

[DRW204]

neutral reader,

id say CGY adds, not a huge amount, but Nylander can provide W/C flexiblity. Tkachuk has a slightly less points over 82 (59 vs 55 using career pace) but was a full time player in the NHL in D+1. doubt TOR would do this tho

 

[The Assclown]

As a Leafs fan, I'd have to say no to this.

 

[Rorschach]

Leafs add and significantly (at least an additional second rounder).

If Nylander really becomes a legitimate top six C however, one that can defend other teams' centers and can win faceoffs while still out scoring the opposition, the value then flips the other way.

 

[Americanadian]

Leafs add and significantly (at least an additional second rounder).

If Nylander really becomes a legitimate top six C however, one that can defend other teams' centers and can win faceoffs while still out scoring the opposition, the value then flips the other way.

These are my thoughts exactly.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Nylander will be a center at the NHL level and is playing there right now. he's also got a lot more offensive upside and can impact a game more

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Leafs add and significantly (at least an additional second rounder).

If Nylander really becomes a legitimate top six C however, one that can defend other teams' centers and can win faceoffs while still out scoring the opposition, the value then flips the other way.

The Leafs would not be the one to add. Nylander>Tkachuk

 

[CraigsList]

Nah. We’ll keep Tkachuk.

 

[Skolman]

Tkachuk>Nylander

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Tkachuk>Nylander

I beg to differ.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Only way leafs ever consider this is if we sign JT, and a 2nd would need to come our way along with Tkachuk

 

[Skobel24]

Id pass. Id much rather have Tkachuk.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Only way leafs ever consider this is if we sign JT, and a 2nd would need to come our way along with Tkachuk

uggg no to J.T I just can't see it at all. Shanny has really stuck to his plan and I just can't see them going that way. Plus there is a real chance that J.T would be a 3c for us in a few yrs and paying 9-10 mil for a 3c is a bad idea.

 

[Kaen]

Fair value, both fanbases will be saying no. Nylander has the added versatility of possibly being a centre long term, but Tkachuk is a phenomenal pest that can play physical and throw other teams off their game while putting up similar numbers. Which one you select depends on whether you need a centre or some size in your lineup.

 

[Rorschach]

Nylander will be a center at the NHL level and is playing there right now. he's also got a lot more offensive upside and can impact a game more

I agreed with everything up to "...and can impact a game more".

No. I am a Kings fan and I can tell you Tkachuk is a player opposing teams love to hate. He is extremely disruptive to the opposing team's best players and he's heart and soul to his own team. You can look at the Flyers and see the two players they had in Jeff Carter and Mike Richards. Tkachuk is like Richards and will get a haul like that. Nylander is more like Jeff Carter...tremendous offensive talent but not the kind of player GMs overpay for, at least not currently.

Nylander's impact is on one side of the ice, the offensive zone. Tkachuk's is all over the ice and the opposing team's heads.

 

[Space Coyote]

Great thread to start a pissing match between both fanbases.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I agreed with everything up to "...and can impact a game more".

No. I am a Kings fan and I can tell you Tkachuk is a player opposing teams love to hate. He is extremely disruptive to the opposing team's best players and he's heart and soul to his own team. You can look at the Flyers and see the two players they had in Jeff Carter and Mike Richards. Tkachuk is like Richards and will get a haul like that. Nylander is more like Jeff Carter...tremendous offensive talent but not the kind of player GMs overpay for, at least not currently.

Nylander's impact is on one side of the ice, the offensive zone. Tkachuk's is all over the ice and the opposing team's heads.

One thing many non Leaf fans forget is a large chunk of us are very familiar with Tkachuk. I along with many other Leaf fans watched every jr game Marner and Tkachuk played. I naturally developed an affinity for Matt but even with that in mind Nylander is a better player.

 

[Brock Radunske]

I think their values are similar but I'd much rather keep Nylander. I think he's got a crazy amount of untapped potential and the chance to potentially have a Matthews/Nylander/Kadri centre core is too appealing to pass up.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I agreed with everything up to "...and can impact a game more".

No. I am a Kings fan and I can tell you Tkachuk is a player opposing teams love to hate. He is extremely disruptive to the opposing team's best players and he's heart and soul to his own team. You can look at the Flyers and see the two players they had in Jeff Carter and Mike Richards. Tkachuk is like Richards and will get a haul like that. Nylander is more like Jeff Carter...tremendous offensive talent but not the kind of player GMs overpay for, at least not currently.

Nylander's impact is on one side of the ice, the offensive zone. Tkachuk's is all over the ice and the opposing team's heads.

that's fair. I should have said can impact a game more offensively

 

[Critical13]

You can't trade a centre for a similar skill/impact winger. You just can't.

 

[Americanadian]

You can't trade a centre for a similar skill/impact winger. You just can't.

Nylander’s 5v5 production at C isn’t similar to Tkachuk’s production at LW. The reason for the trade would be that they don’t have similar skill/impact. Nylander is more skilled but Tkachuk brings a physical and defensive element that Nylander doesn’t.

 

[I Pity The Foo]

Why would we trade Tkachuk for Nylander when we can get Tarensako for tkachuk. I rather the more superior player in Tarensako then Nylander SMH

 

[TOGuy14]

Leafs say no, but it isn't a bad starting point from CGY

 

[Liferleafer]

Nylander to the flames to take up the 1RW spot, Tkachuk to the leafs to displace Hyman in the 1LW spot. Who adds?

Leaf fan here, polite pass.