Voting Record - ted1971, Dennis Bonvie, pappyline

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    ted19711Wayne Gretzky1201Gordie Howe1Bobby Hull
    ted19712Bobby Orr1192Wayne Gretzky2Jean Beliveau
    ted19713Gordie Howe1183Bobby Orr3Doug Harvey
    ted19714Mario Lemieux1174Jean Beliveau4Dominik Hasek
    ted19715Doug Harvey1165Mario Lemieux5Howie Morenz
    ted19716Bobby Hull1156Bobby Hull6Patrick Roy
    ted19717Jean Beliveau1147Doug Harvey7Maurice Richard
    ted19718Maurice Richard1138Ray Bourque8Sidney Crosby
    ted19719Ray Bourque1129Maurice Richard9Ray Bourque
    ted197110Howie Morenz11110Patrick Roy10Eddie Shore
    ted197111Dominik Hasek11034
    ted197112Patrick Roy1091Howie Morenz1Red Kelly
    ted197113Stan Mikita1082Dominik Hasek2Frank Nighbor
    ted197114Sidney Crosby1073Ray Bourque3Denis Potvin
    ted197115Bobby Clarke1064Sidney Crosby4Jacques Plante
    ted197116Denis Potvin1055Jacques Plante5Nicklas Lidstrom
    ted197117Nicklas Lidstrom1046Alex Ovechkin6Guy Lafleur
    ted197118Eddie Shore1037Jaromir Jagr7Phil Esposito
    ted197119Frank Nighbor1028Eddie Shore8Alex Ovechkin
    ted197120Red Kelly1019Nicklas Lidstrom9Mark Messier
    ted197121Glenn Hall10010Denis Potvin10Jaromir Jagr
    ted197122Alex Ovechkin9956
    ted197123Jacques Plante981Frank Nighbor1Viacheslav Fetisov
    ted197124Guy Lafleur972Viacheslav Fetisov2Sergei Makarov
    ted197125Sergei Makarov963Mark Messier3Glenn Hall
    ted197126Viacheslav Fetisov954Alex Ovechkin4Martin Brodeur
    ted197127Mark Messier945Glenn Hall5Bobby Clarke
    ted197128Bill Cook936Stan Mikita6Joe Sakic
    ted197129Terry Sawchuk927Guy Lafleur7Phil Esposito
    ted197130Bryan Trottier918Bobby Clarke8Cyclone Taylor
    ted197131Larry Robinson909Phil Esposito9Bryan Trottier
    ted197132Jaromir Jagr8910Martin Brodeur10Terry Sawchuk
    ted197133Brad Park8878
    ted197134Joe Sakic871Martin Brodeur1Terry Sawchuk
    ted197135Martin Brodeur862Bill Cook2Ted Lindsay
    ted197136Peter Forsberg853Cyclone Taylor3Chris Chelios
    ted197137Chris Chelios844Larry Robinson4Brad Park
    ted197138Cyclone Taylor835Bryan Trottier5Newsy Lalonde
    ted197139Charlie Conacher826Joe Sakic6Mike Bossy
    ted197140Phil Esposito817Newsy Lalonde7Larry Robinson
    ted197141Newsy Lalonde808Mike Bossy8Steve Yzerman
    ted197142Mike Bossy799Steve Yzerman9Ken Dryden
    ted197143Ted Lindsay7810Ted Lindsay10Paul Coffey
    ted197144Steve Yzerman77910
    ted197145Milt Schmidt761Chris Chelios1Syl Apps
    ted197146Valeri Kharlamov752Valeri Kharlamov2Peter Forsberg
    ted197147Ken Dryden743Syl Apps3Henri Richard
    ted197148Evgeni Malkin734Henri Richard4Paul Coffey
    ted197149Pierre Pilote725Frank Boucher5Milt Schmidt
    ted197150Paul Coffey716Brad Park6Brad Park
    ted197151Syl Apps707Pierre Pilote7Pierre Pilote
    ted197152Henri Richard698King Clancy8Vladislav Tretiak
    ted197153Teemu Selanne689Paul Coffey9Ken Dryden
    ted197154Frank Brimsek6710Vladislav Tretiak10Charlie Conacher
    ted197155Marcel Dionne661112
    ted197156King Clancy651Peter Forsberg1Chris Pronger
    ted197157Bernie Geoffrion642Vladislav Tretiak2Andy Bathgate
    ted197158Frank Mahovlich633Milt Schmidt3Charlie Conacher
    ted197159Cy Denneny624Frank Brimsek4Tim Horton
    ted197160Earl Seibert615Evgeni Malkin5Ted Kennedy
    ted197161Frank Boucher606Pierre Pilote6Frank Brimsek
    ted197162Anatoli Firsov597Bernie Geoffrion7Sprague Cleghorn
    ted197163Charlie Gardiner588Earl Seibert8Earl Seibert
    ted197164Boris Mikhailov579Marcel Dionne9Marcel Dionne
    ted197165Andy Bathgate5610Charlie Conacher10Bernie Geoffrion
    ted197166Vladislav Tretiak551314
    ted197167Chris Pronger541Scott Stevens1Tim Horton
    ted197168Scott Stevens532Georges Vezina2Al MacInnis
    ted197169Bill Durnan523Tim Horton3Georges Vezina
    ted197170Clint Benedict514Bernie Geoffrion4Joe Malone
    ted197171Aurele Joliat505Andy Bathgate5Cy Denneny
    ted197172Ted Kennedy496Earl Seibert6Frank Mahovlich
    ted197173Jari Kurri487Marcel Dionne7Dit Clapper
    ted197174Borje Salming478Al MacInnis8Clint Benedict
    ted197175Brett Hull469Teemu Selanne9Dickie Moore
    ted197176Georges Vezina4510Frank Mahovlich10Teemu Selanne
    ted197177Dickie Moore4415
    ted197178Tim Horton431Anatoli Firsov
    ted197179Turk Broda422Dit Clapper
    ted197180Mark Howe413Jari Kurri
    ted197181Norm Ullman404Frank Mahovlich
    ted197182Sprague Cleghorn395Joe Malone
    ted197183Joe Malone386Clint Benedict
    ted197184Max Bentley377Cy Denneny
    ted197185Bill Cowley368Turk Broda
    ted197186Russell Bowie359Bill Durnan
    ted197187Al MacInnis3410Brett Hull
    ted197188Martin St. Louis331718
    ted197189Nels Stewart321Elmer Lach1Bill Cowley
    ted197190Elmer Lach312Borje Salming2Ed Belfour
    ted197191Eric Lindros303Turk Broda3Boris Mikhailov
    ted197192Eddie Gerard294Bill Durnan4Nels Stewart
    ted197193Ed Belfour285Boris Mikhailov5Eric Lindros
    ted197194Pavel Datsyuk276Brett Hull6Zdeno Chara
    ted197195Brian Leetch267Nels Stewart7Martin St. Louis
    ted197196Zdeno Chara258Bill Gadsby8Bill Gadsby
    ted197197Toe Blake249Brian Leetch9Sergei Fedorov
    ted197198Pavel Bure2310Sergei Fedorov10Brian Leetch
    ted197199Doug Bentley221920
    ted1971100Dit Clapper211Nels Stewart1Mark Howe
    ted1971101Sid Abel202Mark Howe2Eric Lindros
    ted1971102Valeri Vasiliev193Eric Lindros3Dave Keon
    ted1971103Duncan Keith184Eddie Gerard4Norm Ullman
    ted1971104Bill Gadsby175Dave Keon5Jarome Iginla
    ted1971105Frank McGee166Valeri Vasiliev6Martin St. Louis
    ted1971106Rod Langway157Peter Stastny7Erik Karlsson
    ted1971107Jiri Holecek148Serge Savard8Jiri Holecek
    ted1971108Babe Siebert139Sid Abel9Sid Abel
    ted1971109Peter Stastny1210Norm Ullman10Eddie Gerard
    ted1971110Joe Thornton1121
    ted1971111Serge Savard101Alexander Maltsev
    ted1971112Roberto Luongo92Norm Ullman
    ted1971113Moose Johnson83Erik Karlsson
    ted1971114Busher Jackson74Jarome Iginla
    ted1971115Ching Johnson65Sid Abel
    ted1971116Tommy Phillips56Jiri Holecek
    ted1971117Vladimir Martinec47Vladimir Martinec
    ted1971118Babe Dye38Serge Savard
    ted1971119Sergei Fedorov29Eddie Gerard
    ted1971120Hod Stuart110Doug Gilmour
    VoterRankPlayerPoints12
    Dennis Bonvie1Bobby Orr1201Bobby Orr1Bobby Hull
    Dennis Bonvie2Gordie Howe1192Gordie Howe2Maurice Richard
    Dennis Bonvie3Wayne Gretzky1183Wayne Gretzky3Doug Harvey
    Dennis Bonvie4Mario Lemieux1174Mario Lemieux4Eddie Shore
    Dennis Bonvie5Bobby Hull1165Maurice Richard5Sidney Crosby
    Dennis Bonvie6Maurice Richard1156Bobby Hull6Dominik Hasek
    Dennis Bonvie7Eddie Shore1147Jean Beliveau7Jean Beliveau
    Dennis Bonvie8Dominik Hasek1138Doug Harvey8Patrick Roy
    Dennis Bonvie9Doug Harvey1129Patrick Roy9Ray Bourque
    Dennis Bonvie10Sidney Crosby11110Ray Bourque10Howie Morenz
    Dennis Bonvie11Jean Beliveau11034
    Dennis Bonvie12Patrick Roy1091Dominik Hasek1Denis Potvin
    Dennis Bonvie13Sergei Makarov1082Eddie Shore2Red Kelly
    Dennis Bonvie14Red Kelly1073Sidney Crosby3Nicklas Lidstrom
    Dennis Bonvie15Ray Bourque1064Ray Bourque4Jaromir Jagr
    Dennis Bonvie16Jaromir Jagr1055Howie Morenz5Phil Esposito
    Dennis Bonvie17Denis Potvin1046Jaromir Jagr6Jacques Plante
    Dennis Bonvie18Howie Morenz1037Denis Potvin7Guy Lafleur
    Dennis Bonvie19Nicklas Lidstrom1028Nicklas Lidstrom8Mark Messier
    Dennis Bonvie20Alex Ovechkin1019Mark Messier9Frank Nighbor
    Dennis Bonvie21Jacques Plante10010Alex Ovechkin10Alex Ovechkin
    Dennis Bonvie22Bobby Clarke9956
    Dennis Bonvie23Phil Esposito981Phil Esposito1Phil Esposito
    Dennis Bonvie24Guy Lafleur972Bobby Clarke2Sergei Makarov
    Dennis Bonvie25Mark Messier963Alex Ovechkin3Bobby Clarke
    Dennis Bonvie26Glenn Hall954Glenn Hall4Glenn Hall
    Dennis Bonvie27Viacheslav Fetisov945Guy Lafleur5Cyclone Taylor
    Dennis Bonvie28Stan Mikita936Mark Messier6Viacheslav Fetisov
    Dennis Bonvie29Vladislav Tretiak927Stan Mikita7Mike Bossy
    Dennis Bonvie30Cyclone Taylor918Frank Nighbor8Bryan Trottier
    Dennis Bonvie31Mike Bossy909Viacheslav Fetisov9Martin Brodeur
    Dennis Bonvie32Newsy Lalonde8910Martin Brodeur10Terry Sawchuk
    Dennis Bonvie33Larry Robinson8878
    Dennis Bonvie34Bryan Trottier871Newsy Lalonde1Newsy Lalonde
    Dennis Bonvie35Dit Clapper862Cyclone Taylor2Mike Bossy
    Dennis Bonvie36Frank Nighbor853Mike Bossy3Larry Robinson
    Dennis Bonvie37Valeri Kharlamov844Larry Robinson4Terry Sawchuk
    Dennis Bonvie38Peter Forsberg835Bill Cook5Ken Dryden
    Dennis Bonvie39Eric Lindros826Bryan Trottier6Steve Yzerman
    Dennis Bonvie40Terry Sawchuk817Joe Sakic7Brad Park
    Dennis Bonvie41Steve Yzerman808Steve Yzerman8Chris Chelios
    Dennis Bonvie42Joe Sakic799Martin Brodeur9Paul Coffey
    Dennis Bonvie43Ken Dryden7810Terry Sawchuk10Ted Lindsay
    Dennis Bonvie44Evgeni Malkin77910
    Dennis Bonvie45Anatoli Firsov761Vladislav Tretiak1Vladislav Tretiak
    Dennis Bonvie46Brad Park752Ken Dryden2Brad Park
    Dennis Bonvie47Ted Lindsay743Valeri Kharlamov3Peter Forsberg
    Dennis Bonvie48Bill Durnan734Brad Park4Ken Dryden
    Dennis Bonvie49Andy Bathgate725King Clancy5Henri Richard
    Dennis Bonvie50Henri Richard716Henri Richard6Paul Coffey
    Dennis Bonvie51Martin Brodeur707Frank Boucher7Syl Apps
    Dennis Bonvie52Bill Cook698Chris Chelios8Milt Schmidt
    Dennis Bonvie53Chris Chelios689Paul Coffey9Pierre Pilote
    Dennis Bonvie54Frank Brimsek6710Pierre Pilote10Charlie Conacher
    Dennis Bonvie55Marcel Dionne661112
    Dennis Bonvie56Russell Bowie651Vladislav Tretiak1Frank Brimsek
    Dennis Bonvie57Frank Mahovlich642Peter Forsberg2Andy Bathgate
    Dennis Bonvie58Earl Seibert633Evgeni Malkin3Marcel Dionne
    Dennis Bonvie59Syl Apps624Marcel Dionne4Charlie Conacher
    Dennis Bonvie60Bernie Geoffrion615Frank Brimsek5Frank Mahovlich
    Dennis Bonvie61Paul Coffey606Earl Seibert6Earl Seibert
    Dennis Bonvie62Nels Stewart597Pierre Pilote7Tim Horton
    Dennis Bonvie63Cy Denneny588Milt Schmidt8Chris Pronger
    Dennis Bonvie64Georges Vezina579Charlie Conacher9Ted Kennedy
    Dennis Bonvie65Vladimir Krutov5610Bernie Geoffrion10Bernie Geoffrion
    Dennis Bonvie66Turk Broda551314
    Dennis Bonvie67Dave Keon541Andy Bathgate1Bill Durnan
    Dennis Bonvie68Tony Esposito532Marcel Dionne2Dit Clapper
    Dennis Bonvie69King Clancy523Earl Seibert3Frank Mahovlich
    Dennis Bonvie70Milt Schmidt514Frank Mahovlich4Tim Horton
    Dennis Bonvie71Pierre Pilote505Bernie Geoffrion5Georges Vezina
    Dennis Bonvie72Charlie Gardiner496Tim Horton6Cy Denneny
    Dennis Bonvie73Al MacInnis487Al MacInnis7Al MacInnis
    Dennis Bonvie74Charlie Conacher478Georges Vezina8Clint Benedict
    Dennis Bonvie75Tim Horton469Scott Stevens9Joe Malone
    Dennis Bonvie76Pavel Bure4510Teemu Selanne10Teemu Selanne
    Dennis Bonvie77Chris Pronger441516
    Dennis Bonvie78Ed Belfour431Dit Clapper1Bill Durnan
    Dennis Bonvie79Jari Kurri422Bill Durnan2Cy Denneny
    Dennis Bonvie80Johnny Bower413Anatoli Firsov3Turk Broda
    Dennis Bonvie81Brett Hull404Frank Mahovlich4Jari Kurri
    Dennis Bonvie82Ted Kennedy395Turk Broda5Charlie Gardiner
    Dennis Bonvie83Mark Howe386Cy Denneny6Boris Mikhailov
    Dennis Bonvie84Connor McDavid377Jari Kurri7Brett Hull
    Dennis Bonvie85Drew Doughty368Brett Hull8Sergei Fedorov
    Dennis Bonvie86Boris Mikhailov359Joe Malone9Max Bentley
    Dennis Bonvie87Erik Karlsson3410Clint Benedict10Aurele Joliat
    Dennis Bonvie88Jiri Holecek331718
    Dennis Bonvie89Toe Blake321Bill Durnan1Eric Lindros
    Dennis Bonvie90Tiny Thompson312Turk Broda2Boris Mikhailov
    Dennis Bonvie91Borje Salming303Boris Mikhailov3Ed Belfour
    Dennis Bonvie92Scott Stevens294Nels Stewart4Sergei Fedorov
    Dennis Bonvie93Joe Malone285Brett Hull5Nels Stewart
    Dennis Bonvie94Dickie Moore276Sergei Fedorov6Duncan Keith
    Dennis Bonvie95Frank Boucher267Borje Salming7Brian Leetch
    Dennis Bonvie96Rod Langway258Brian Leetch8Bill Gadsby
    Dennis Bonvie97Clint Benedict249Elmer Lach9Zdeno Chara
    Dennis Bonvie98Sergei Fedorov2310Bill Gadsby10Martin St. Louis
    Dennis Bonvie99Duncan Keith221920
    Dennis Bonvie100Brian Leetch211Eric Lindros1Eric Lindros
    Dennis Bonvie101Sprague Cleghorn202Dave Keon2Dave Keon
    Dennis Bonvie102Teemu Selanne193Mark Howe3Mark Howe
    Dennis Bonvie103Norm Ullman184Tony Esposito4Pavel Bure
    Dennis Bonvie104George Hainsworth175Nels Stewart5Brian Leetch
    Dennis Bonvie105Max Bentley166Brian Leetch6Tony Esposito
    Dennis Bonvie106Guy Lapointe157Bill Gadsby7Jiri Holecek
    Dennis Bonvie107Ron Francis148Erik Karlsson8Eddie Gerard
    Dennis Bonvie108Bernie Parent139Duncan Keith9Peter Stastny
    Dennis Bonvie109Doug Gilmour1210Patrick Kane10Johnny Bower
    Dennis Bonvie110Patrick Kane1121
    Dennis Bonvie111Eddie Gerard101Russell Bowie
    Dennis Bonvie112Martin St. Louis92Pavel Bure
    Dennis Bonvie113Vladimir Petrov83Jiri Holecek
    Dennis Bonvie114Tommy Phillips74Vladimir Martinec
    Dennis Bonvie115Aurele Joliat65Valeri Vasiliev
    Dennis Bonvie116Zdeno Chara56Tony Esposito
    Dennis Bonvie117Elmer Lach47Johnny Bower
    Dennis Bonvie118Peter Stastny38Erik Karlsson
    Dennis Bonvie119Babe Dye29Ron Francis
    Dennis Bonvie120Jan Suchy110Eddie Gerard
    VoterRankPlayerPoints12
    pappyline1Bobby Orr1201Bobby Orr1Bobby Hull
    pappyline2Gordie Howe1192Gordie Howe2Maurice Richard
    pappyline3Wayne Gretzky1183Wayne Gretzky3Howie Morenz
    pappyline4Mario Lemieux1174Mario Lemieux4Doug Harvey
    pappyline5Bobby Hull1165Bobby Hull5Eddie Shore
    pappyline6Maurice Richard1156Maurice Richard6Jean Beliveau
    pappyline7Howie Morenz1147Doug Harvey7Dominik Hasek
    pappyline8Doug Harvey1138Jean Beliveau8Ray Bourque
    pappyline9Jean Beliveau1129Ray Bourque9Patrick Roy
    pappyline10Eddie Shore11110Patrick Roy10Sidney Crosby
    pappyline11Dominik Hasek11034
    pappyline12Ray Bourque1091Howie Morenz1Stan Mikita
    pappyline13Jacques Plante1082Eddie Shore2Jacques Plante
    pappyline14Stan Mikita1073Dominik Hasek3Jaromir Jagr
    pappyline15Patrick Roy1064Jaromir Jagr4Red Kelly
    pappyline16Red Kelly1055Ray Bourque5Denis Potvin
    pappyline17Jaromir Jagr1046Jacques Plante6Guy Lafleur
    pappyline18Denis Potvin1037Stan Mikita7Mark Messier
    pappyline19Guy Lafleur1028Denis Potvin8Frank Nighbor
    pappyline20Bobby Clarke1019Mark Messier9Phil Esposito
    pappyline21Mark Messier10010Alex Ovechkin10Alex Ovechkin
    pappyline22Terry Sawchuk9956
    pappyline23Glenn Hall981Stan Mikita1Glenn Hall
    pappyline24Phil Esposito972Glenn Hall2Bobby Clarke
    pappyline25Frank Nighbor963Guy Lafleur3Terry Sawchuk
    pappyline26Alex Ovechkin954Bobby Clarke4Phil Esposito
    pappyline27Sidney Crosby945Mark Messier5Bryan Trottier
    pappyline28Nicklas Lidstrom936Terry Sawchuk6Cyclone Taylor
    pappyline29Bryan Trottier927Frank Nighbor7Sergei Makarov
    pappyline30Cyclone Taylor918Phil Esposito8Viacheslav Fetisov
    pappyline31Newsy Lalonde909Alex Ovechkin9Mike Bossy
    pappyline32Milt Schmidt8910Viacheslav Fetisov10Joe Sakic
    pappyline33Bill Cook8878
    pappyline34Syl Apps871Terry Sawchuk1Terry Sawchuk
    pappyline35Valeri Kharlamov862Bill Cook2Newsy Lalonde
    pappyline36Mike Bossy853Cyclone Taylor3Ted Lindsay
    pappyline37Max Bentley844Newsy Lalonde4Larry Robinson
    pappyline38Charlie Conacher835Bryan Trottier5Mike Bossy
    pappyline39Frank Boucher826Ted Lindsay6Steve Yzerman
    pappyline40Frank Mahovlich817Larry Robinson7Brad Park
    pappyline41Andy Bathgate808Mike Bossy8Ken Dryden
    pappyline42Earl Seibert799Joe Sakic9Paul Coffey
    pappyline43Sergei Makarov7810Martin Brodeur10Chris Chelios
    pappyline44Ted Lindsay77910
    pappyline45Larry Robinson761Charlie Conacher1Milt Schmidt
    pappyline46Joe Sakic752Syl Apps2Charlie Conacher
    pappyline47Viacheslav Fetisov743Frank Boucher3Syl Apps
    pappyline48Steve Yzerman734Valeri Kharlamov4Pierre Pilote
    pappyline49Ken Dryden725King Clancy5Brad Park
    pappyline50Chris Chelios716Pierre Pilote6Bernie Geoffrion
    pappyline51Brad Park707Brad Park7Ken Dryden
    pappyline52Bernie Geoffrion698Chris Chelios8Paul Coffey
    pappyline53Joe Malone689Paul Coffey9Henri Richard
    pappyline54Evgeni Malkin6710Ken Dryden10Vladislav Tretiak
    pappyline55Paul Coffey661112
    pappyline56Marcel Dionne651Milt Schmidt1Charlie Conacher
    pappyline57King Clancy642Charlie Conacher2Bernie Geoffrion
    pappyline58Pierre Pilote633Earl Seibert3Andy Bathgate
    pappyline59Clint Benedict624Bernie Geoffrion4Earl Seibert
    pappyline60Bill Durnan615Pierre Pilote5Marcel Dionne
    pappyline61Henri Richard606Marcel Dionne6Frank Mahovlich
    pappyline62Dit Clapper597Frank Brimsek7Ted Kennedy
    pappyline63Turk Broda588Evgeni Malkin8Tim Horton
    pappyline64Tim Horton579Vladislav Tretiak9Frank Brimsek
    pappyline65Dickie Moore5610Peter Forsberg10Sprague Cleghorn
    pappyline66Aurele Joliat551314
    pappyline67Sprague Cleghorn541Andy Bathgate1Frank Mahovlich
    pappyline68Ted Kennedy532Bernie Geoffrion2Tim Horton
    pappyline69Cy Denneny523Marcel Dionne3Dickie Moore
    pappyline70Boris Mikhailov514Frank Mahovlich4Dit Clapper
    pappyline71Peter Forsberg505Earl Seibert5Joe Malone
    pappyline72Jari Kurri496Tim Horton6Georges Vezina
    pappyline73Vladislav Tretiak487Georges Vezina7Cy Denneny
    pappyline74Martin Brodeur478Al MacInnis8Bill Durnan
    pappyline75Frank Brimsek469Teemu Selanne9Al MacInnis
    pappyline76Peter Stastny4510Scott Stevens10Teemu Selanne
    pappyline77Johnny Bower441516
    pappyline78Elmer Lach431Frank Mahovlich1Max Bentley
    pappyline79Bill Cowley422Joe Malone2Charlie Gardiner
    pappyline80Toe Blake413Dit Clapper3Aurele Joliat
    pappyline81Sergei Fedorov404Turk Broda4Turk Broda
    pappyline82George Hainsworth395Bill Durnan5Cy Denneny
    pappyline83Bernie Parent386Anatoli Firsov6Boris Mikhailov
    pappyline84Bill Gadsby377Brett Hull7Brett Hull
    pappyline85Anatoli Firsov368Cy Denneny8Jari Kurri
    pappyline86Gilbert Perreault359Jari Kurri9Bill Durnan
    pappyline87Busher Jackson3410Clint Benedict10Sergei Fedorov
    pappyline88Doug Bentley331718
    pappyline89Sid Abel321Bill Gadsby1Bill Gadsby
    pappyline90Alex Delvecchio312Elmer Lach2Nels Stewart
    pappyline91Norm Ullman303Turk Broda3Bill Cowley
    pappyline92Dave Keon294Bill Durnan4Sergei Fedorov
    pappyline93Teemu Selanne285Brett Hull5Eric Lindros
    pappyline94Charlie Gardiner276Nels Stewart6Boris Mikhailov
    pappyline95Borje Salming267Borje Salming7Martin St. Louis
    pappyline96Johnny Bucyk258Sergei Fedorov8Brian Leetch
    pappyline97Ron Francis249Boris Mikhailov9Ed Belfour
    pappyline98Scott Stevens2310Brian Leetch10Duncan Keith
    pappyline99Valeri Vasiliev221920
    pappyline100Serge Savard211Bill Gadsby1Sid Abel
    pappyline101Brian Leetch202Nels Stewart2Toe Blake
    pappyline102Nels Stewart193Sid Abel3Dave Keon
    pappyline103Brett Hull184Toe Blake4Johnny Bower
    pappyline104Al MacInnis175Dave Keon5Eric Lindros
    pappyline105Joe Thornton166Eric Lindros6Norm Ullman
    pappyline106Patrick Kane157Joe Thornton7Bernie Parent
    pappyline107Chris Pronger148Peter Stastny8Eddie Gerard
    pappyline108Bill Quackenbush139Norm Ullman9Mark Howe
    pappyline109Pavel Bure1210Mark Howe10Russell Bowie
    pappyline110Eric Lindros1121
    pappyline111Jarome Iginla101Sid Abel
    pappyline112Martin St. Louis92Toe Blake
    pappyline113Roy Conacher83Norm Ullman
    pappyline114Georges Vezina74Johnny Bower
    pappyline115Jean Ratelle65Russell Bowie
    pappyline116Adam Oates56Eddie Gerard
    pappyline117Duncan Keith47Peter Stastny
    pappyline118Paul Thompson38Ron Francis
    pappyline119Erik Karlsson29Bernie Parent
    pappyline120Eddie Litzenberger110Pavel Bure
     
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  2. bobholly39 Registered User

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    First thing I notice is @ted1971 is one of the very few to vote Lemieux outside of the top 5. That's not altogether that big a deal as we've seen such opinions before. What I find surprising is that you chose to have Beliuveau ahead of Lemieux....while initially having Beliveau at only #7 in your initial list.

    What made you make Beliveau jump from 7 to 4? Was it a case of Lemieux going down a lot for you, or Beliveau going up a lot? Most people who break up the usual "big 4" usually already feel very strongly about a certain player or other breaking it up - it doesn't seem like this was the case here.
     
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    I had a strong hunch that it was @ted1971 's. No issue whatsoever.

    I was about 90% certain it was @Dennis Bonvie 's list. Ugly list as far as my personnal appreciation is concerned (Shore!! Clapper!! Brodeur!! Nels Stewart!!!), but no issue whatsoever at screening, and ultimately the kind of list that we just have to agree disagreeing.

    I was about 99% certain it was @pappyline 's list. Again, no issue as far as screening is concerned. Thought it was really light on goalies, but then again, 75% of the lists were light on goalies according to me, and pappy was far, far from the worse offender in that regard. Not pointing anyone here, Mike.
     
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    Mario while great, I felt that Beliveau as a leader surpassed some of Mario's accomplishments. I remember at the time for the 2nd round, the argument for Beliveau was far too much and was able to overtake Mario because of it. The purpose of this project is to educate and inform, and this was one of several cases in which my 2nd round vote differed from my original list.
     
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    This is a very interesting section of Dennis' list:

    Dennis Bonvie29Vladislav Tretiak927Stan Mikita7Mike Bossy
    Dennis Bonvie30Cyclone Taylor918Frank Nighbor8Bryan Trottier
    Dennis Bonvie31Mike Bossy909Viacheslav Fetisov9Martin Brodeur
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    Yeah no issues with your 2nd round vote differing from your first round list of course. People who break up the big 4 tend to be so set in their ways and so passionate about why - i just found it intriguing to see that you had someone go from the 7th spot all the way to 4, rather than expected 5 to 4, or even already having Beliveau at 4 in round 1 and sticking to your guns.
     
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    How did you know it was me?
     
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    Clarke/Espo conundrum. Again, I wasn't QUITE sure it was you.
     
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    By interesting I assume you mean outstanding.

    Thanks!
     
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    Reads better this way.

    As for Clapper, yes I ranked him the highest at 35. But you ranked him lowest at 120. Since Dapper Dit came out ranked 74th, it appears you out uglied me there.
     
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    TBH I don't understand how can anyone rank Gretzky below both Orr and Howe. You could argue peak Orr over peak Gretzky (even though I strongly disagree), but there is no question Howe's peak is inferior to both. If you value career and longevity, you can put Howe above Gretzky, but Orr would be a distant third in this triumvirate. Putting Gretzky at #3 is simply indefensible. Of course, it's better than putting him at #7, but that's straight-up madness.
     
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    Easy.

    April 10th, 1982. First round of the playoffs. LA upsets the Oilers.
    Key game 3. Miracle on Manchester. Oilers lead 5-0 after 2 periods. Lose 6-5 in OT. Watch how bad Gretzky is defensively, especially on the tying goal.



    Older participants watched and remember this game and other examples of Gretzky playing poor defensive hockey.
     
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    I missed the memo when the list became "Top 100 Defensive Players of All Time." But even on that list Lemieux and Richard would not be higher than Gretzky and his obscene number of shorthanded goals.
     
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    Inherent in the definition of a hockey player.
     
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    The real mystery is Lemieux.
     
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    Pretty simple, really.

    They were both better hockey players than him.
     
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    Orly? Fedorov was a better player than both of them. An opinion just as valid. :P

    Although, seriously, was Orr a better player than Gretzky after the age of 26? Or was Howe a better player than Gretzky when Gretzky beat him in every metric except two way play and physicality? Was it Orr or Howe that set 61 NHL records?
     
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    The definition of a hockey player is someone who wears skates and plays with a puck and a stick. No other definitions.
     
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    I'm going to go out on a limb and say, no, Fedorov a better player than Howe & Orr is not just as valid.

    Seriously, after the age of 26 Bobby was pretty much a cripple.

    Its these types of silly arguments that hurt credibility.
     
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    Yes, and Gretzky played till he was 39. Those 13 extra years count.
     
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    Those 13 years do not make Gretzky a better player than Orr.
     
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    It's about the valuation of traits...this isn't tough. Of all the things to dive into on this thing...how is it Orr vs Gretzky for the zillionth time?
     
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    And Howe played until he was 51, was a plus player. Gretzky was a minus player at 39. At 39, H0we outscored Gretzky handily and was a plus player.

    Gordie Howe Stats | Hockey-Reference.com
     
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    I had to defend my list when confronted.

    That's what this part of the project is aboot, eh?
     
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    Yeah, for sure. My comment wasn't directed at you, for the record.

    I just find it funny that of all the places to want to hash out Gretzky vs Orr, this seems like an odd one...like drinking a cup of coffee in your guest room...you can...but why...?
     

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