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VoterRankPlayerPoints 1 2
ResilientBeast1Wayne Gretzky1201Wayne Gretzky1Bobby Hull
ResilientBeast2Bobby Orr1192Gordie Howe2Jean Beliveau
ResilientBeast3Mario Lemieux1183Bobby Orr3Dominik Hasek
ResilientBeast4Gordie Howe1174Mario Lemieux4Patrick Roy
ResilientBeast5Dominik Hasek1165Bobby Hull5Doug Harvey
ResilientBeast6Jean Beliveau1156Maurice Richard6Sidney Crosby
ResilientBeast7Doug Harvey1147Jean Beliveau7Ray Bourque
ResilientBeast8Maurice Richard1138Doug Harvey8Howie Morenz
ResilientBeast9Patrick Roy1129Ray Bourque9Maurice Richard
ResilientBeast10Sidney Crosby11110Patrick Roy10Eddie Shore
ResilientBeast11Eddie Shore110 3 4
ResilientBeast12Bobby Hull1091Dominik Hasek1Nicklas Lidstrom
ResilientBeast13Ray Bourque1082Sidney Crosby2Denis Potvin
ResilientBeast14Stan Mikita1073Howie Morenz3Jacques Plante
ResilientBeast15Jacques Plante1064Ray Bourque4Mark Messier
ResilientBeast16Howie Morenz1055Eddie Shore5Alex Ovechkin
ResilientBeast17Nicklas Lidstrom1046Alex Ovechkin6Red Kelly
ResilientBeast18Jaromir Jagr1037Nicklas Lidstrom7Frank Nighbor
ResilientBeast19Viacheslav Fetisov1028Mark Messier8Guy Lafleur
ResilientBeast20Alex Ovechkin1019Denis Potvin9Phil Esposito
ResilientBeast21Bobby Clarke10010Jacques Plante10Jaromir Jagr
ResilientBeast22Red Kelly99 5 6
ResilientBeast23Mark Messier981Alex Ovechkin1Viacheslav Fetisov
ResilientBeast24Denis Potvin972Mark Messier2Glenn Hall
ResilientBeast25Guy Lafleur963Frank Nighbor3Sergei Makarov
ResilientBeast26Cyclone Taylor954Bobby Clarke4Phil Esposito
ResilientBeast27Phil Esposito945Guy Lafleur5Martin Brodeur
ResilientBeast28Bill Cook936Stan Mikita6Joe Sakic
ResilientBeast29Glenn Hall927Martin Brodeur7Cyclone Taylor
ResilientBeast30Joe Sakic918Glenn Hall8Bobby Clarke
ResilientBeast31Larry Robinson909Viacheslav Fetisov9Terry Sawchuk
ResilientBeast32Frank Nighbor8910Terry Sawchuk10Bryan Trottier
ResilientBeast33Chris Chelios88 7 8
ResilientBeast34Bryan Trottier871Martin Brodeur1Terry Sawchuk
ResilientBeast35Terry Sawchuk862Cyclone Taylor2Chris Chelios
ResilientBeast36Ted Lindsay853Bill Cook3Ted Lindsay
ResilientBeast37Sergei Makarov844Joe Sakic4Larry Robinson
ResilientBeast38King Clancy835Bryan Trottier5Steve Yzerman
ResilientBeast39Newsy Lalonde826Steve Yzerman6Paul Coffey
ResilientBeast40Martin Brodeur817Newsy Lalonde7Mike Bossy
ResilientBeast41Brad Park808Mike Bossy8Newsy Lalonde
ResilientBeast42Mike Bossy799Larry Robinson9Brad Park
ResilientBeast43Valeri Kharlamov7810Terry Sawchuk10Ken Dryden
ResilientBeast44Paul Coffey77 9 10
ResilientBeast45Steve Yzerman761Chris Chelios1Ken Dryden
ResilientBeast46Frank Boucher752Valeri Kharlamov2Brad Park
ResilientBeast47Pierre Pilote743Ken Dryden3Henri Richard
ResilientBeast48Syl Apps734King Clancy4Syl Apps
ResilientBeast49Charlie Conacher725Syl Apps5Paul Coffey
ResilientBeast50Henri Richard716Brad Park6Vladislav Tretiak
ResilientBeast51Sprague Cleghorn707Frank Boucher7Milt Schmidt
ResilientBeast52Chris Pronger698Charlie Conacher8Pierre Pilote
ResilientBeast53Andy Bathgate689Paul Coffey9Charlie Conacher
ResilientBeast54Earl Seibert6710Pierre Pilote10Peter Forsberg
ResilientBeast55Milt Schmidt66 11 12
ResilientBeast56Bernie Geoffrion651Vladislav Tretiak1Frank Brimsek
ResilientBeast57Al MacInnis642Peter Forsberg2Charlie Conacher
ResilientBeast58Tim Horton633Frank Brimsek3Ted Kennedy
ResilientBeast59Ken Dryden624Evgeni Malkin4Sprague Cleghorn
ResilientBeast60Scott Stevens615Charlie Conacher5Bernie Geoffrion
ResilientBeast61Cy Denneny606Pierre Pilote6Andy Bathgate
ResilientBeast62Marcel Dionne597Milt Schmidt7Chris Pronger
ResilientBeast63Teemu Selanne588Bernie Geoffrion8Marcel Dionne
ResilientBeast64Frank Mahovlich579Marcel Dionne9Earl Seibert
ResilientBeast65Dit Clapper5610Earl Seibert10Tim Horton
ResilientBeast66Peter Forsberg55 13
ResilientBeast67Dickie Moore541Bernie Geoffrion
ResilientBeast68Frank Brimsek532Andy Bathgate
ResilientBeast69Brian Leetch523Georges Vezina
ResilientBeast70Brett Hull514Marcel Dionne
ResilientBeast71Joe Malone505Earl Seibert
ResilientBeast72Zdeno Chara496Tim Horton
ResilientBeast73Vladislav Tretiak487Al MacInnis
ResilientBeast74Aurele Joliat478Scott Stevens
ResilientBeast75Boris Mikhailov469Frank Mahovlich
ResilientBeast76Georges Vezina4510Teemu Selanne
ResilientBeast77Ted Kennedy44
ResilientBeast78Bill Quackenbush43
ResilientBeast79Bill Cowley42
ResilientBeast80Eddie Gerard41
ResilientBeast81Evgeni Malkin40
ResilientBeast82Toe Blake39
ResilientBeast83Valeri Vasiliev38
ResilientBeast84Bill Gadsby37
ResilientBeast85Martin St. Louis36
ResilientBeast86Norm Ullman35
ResilientBeast87Elmer Lach34
ResilientBeast88Clint Benedict33
ResilientBeast89Mark Howe32
ResilientBeast90Sid Abel31
ResilientBeast91Serge Savard30
ResilientBeast92Patrick Kane29
ResilientBeast93Drew Doughty28
ResilientBeast94Jack Stewart27
ResilientBeast95Busher Jackson26
ResilientBeast96Charlie Gardiner25
ResilientBeast97Duncan Keith24
ResilientBeast98Jarome Iginla23
ResilientBeast99Erik Karlsson22
ResilientBeast100Nels Stewart21
ResilientBeast101Ed Belfour20
ResilientBeast102Max Bentley19
ResilientBeast103Bill Durnan18
ResilientBeast104Pavel Bure17
ResilientBeast105Turk Broda16
ResilientBeast106Anatoli Firsov15
ResilientBeast107Rod Langway14
ResilientBeast108Doug Bentley13
ResilientBeast109Sergei Fedorov12
ResilientBeast110Bernie Parent11
ResilientBeast111Doug Gilmour10
ResilientBeast112Ching Johnson9
ResilientBeast113Roy Worters8
ResilientBeast114Dave Keon7
ResilientBeast115Jari Kurri6
ResilientBeast116Alexander Maltsev5
ResilientBeast117Hugh Lehman4
ResilientBeast118Joe Thornton3
ResilientBeast119Paul Kariya2
ResilientBeast120Eric Lindros1
VoterRankPlayerPoints 1 2
Kyle McMahon1Wayne Gretzky1201Wayne Gretzky1Bobby Hull
Kyle McMahon2Gordie Howe1192Gordie Howe2Jean Beliveau
Kyle McMahon3Bobby Orr1183Bobby Orr3Doug Harvey
Kyle McMahon4Mario Lemieux1174Mario Lemieux4Howie Morenz
Kyle McMahon5Doug Harvey1165Jean Beliveau5Sidney Crosby
Kyle McMahon6Bobby Hull1156Bobby Hull6Maurice Richard
Kyle McMahon7Jean Beliveau1147Doug Harvey7Ray Bourque
Kyle McMahon8Maurice Richard1138Maurice Richard8Eddie Shore
Kyle McMahon9Howie Morenz1129Ray Bourque9Patrick Roy
Kyle McMahon10Frank Nighbor11110Patrick Roy10Dominik Hasek
Kyle McMahon11Ray Bourque110 3 4
Kyle McMahon12Sidney Crosby1091Howie Morenz1Frank Nighbor
Kyle McMahon13Eddie Shore1082Sidney Crosby2Mark Messier
Kyle McMahon14Jacques Plante1073Ray Bourque3Red Kelly
Kyle McMahon15Mark Messier1064Eddie Shore4Denis Potvin
Kyle McMahon16Jaromir Jagr1055Mark Messier5Jaromir Jagr
Kyle McMahon17Red Kelly1046Jacques Plante6Phil Esposito
Kyle McMahon18Patrick Roy1037Jaromir Jagr7Jacques Plante
Kyle McMahon19Dominik Hasek1028Dominik Hasek8Nicklas Lidstrom
Kyle McMahon20Stan Mikita1019Stan Mikita9Stan Mikita
Kyle McMahon21Alex Ovechkin10010Denis Potvin10Guy Lafleur
Kyle McMahon22Cyclone Taylor99 5 6
Kyle McMahon23Phil Esposito981Frank Nighbor1Sergei Makarov
Kyle McMahon24Guy Lafleur972Mark Messier2Viacheslav Fetisov
Kyle McMahon25Denis Potvin963Stan Mikita3Cyclone Taylor
Kyle McMahon26Nicklas Lidstrom954Viacheslav Fetisov4Phil Esposito
Kyle McMahon27Martin Brodeur945Phil Esposito5Glenn Hall
Kyle McMahon28Newsy Lalonde936Guy Lafleur6Martin Brodeur
Kyle McMahon29Bobby Clarke927Glenn Hall7Bobby Clarke
Kyle McMahon30Ted Lindsay918Martin Brodeur8Terry Sawchuk
Kyle McMahon31Viacheslav Fetisov909Bobby Clarke9Bryan Trottier
Kyle McMahon32Bryan Trottier8910Alex Ovechkin10Mike Bossy
Kyle McMahon33Henri Richard88 7 8
Kyle McMahon34Terry Sawchuk871Cyclone Taylor1Terry Sawchuk
Kyle McMahon35Sergei Makarov862Martin Brodeur2Mike Bossy
Kyle McMahon36Mike Bossy853Bill Cook3Ted Lindsay
Kyle McMahon37Frank Boucher844Mike Bossy4Newsy Lalonde
Kyle McMahon38Bill Cook835Bryan Trottier5Larry Robinson
Kyle McMahon39Ted Kennedy826Terry Sawchuk6Chris Chelios
Kyle McMahon40Larry Robinson817Joe Sakic7Paul Coffey
Kyle McMahon41Paul Coffey808Newsy Lalonde8Ken Dryden
Kyle McMahon42Joe Sakic799Larry Robinson9Steve Yzerman
Kyle McMahon43Glenn Hall7810Ted Lindsay10Brad Park
Kyle McMahon44Brad Park77 9 10
Kyle McMahon45Russell Bowie761Frank Boucher1Henri Richard
Kyle McMahon46Anatoli Firsov752Henri Richard2Vladislav Tretiak
Kyle McMahon47Chris Chelios743King Clancy3Syl Apps
Kyle McMahon48King Clancy734Valeri Kharlamov4Brad Park
Kyle McMahon49Syl Apps725Vladislav Tretiak5Paul Coffey
Kyle McMahon50Frank Brimsek716Chris Chelios6Ken Dryden
Kyle McMahon51Steve Yzerman707Brad Park7Peter Forsberg
Kyle McMahon52Ken Dryden698Syl Apps8Charlie Conacher
Kyle McMahon53Vladislav Tretiak689Paul Coffey9Pierre Pilote
Kyle McMahon54Charlie Conacher6710Ken Dryden10Milt Schmidt
Kyle McMahon55Sprague Cleghorn66 11 12
Kyle McMahon56Bill Durnan651Vladislav Tretiak1Frank Brimsek
Kyle McMahon57Clint Benedict642Peter Forsberg2Ted Kennedy
Kyle McMahon58Milt Schmidt633Frank Brimsek3Sprague Cleghorn
Kyle McMahon59Pierre Pilote624Milt Schmidt4Charlie Conacher
Kyle McMahon60Valeri Kharlamov615Charlie Conacher5Bernie Geoffrion
Kyle McMahon61Peter Forsberg606Pierre Pilote6Tim Horton
Kyle McMahon62Eddie Gerard597Earl Seibert7Earl Seibert
Kyle McMahon63Brett Hull588Evgeni Malkin8Chris Pronger
Kyle McMahon64Charlie Gardiner579Bernie Geoffrion9Andy Bathgate
Kyle McMahon65Tim Horton5610Marcel Dionne10Frank Mahovlich
Kyle McMahon66Dave Keon55 13 14
Kyle McMahon67Dit Clapper541Scott Stevens1Tim Horton
Kyle McMahon68Earl Seibert532Bernie Geoffrion2Bill Durnan
Kyle McMahon69Sergei Fedorov523Tim Horton3Joe Malone
Kyle McMahon70Dickie Moore514Georges Vezina4Georges Vezina
Kyle McMahon71Frank Mahovlich505Earl Seibert5Dickie Moore
Kyle McMahon72Aurele Joliat496Andy Bathgate6Al MacInnis
Kyle McMahon73Turk Broda487Marcel Dionne7Frank Mahovlich
Kyle McMahon74Sid Abel478Al MacInnis8Teemu Selanne
Kyle McMahon75Serge Savard469Frank Mahovlich9Dit Clapper
Kyle McMahon76Evgeni Malkin4510Teemu Selanne10Clint Benedict
Kyle McMahon77Boris Mikhailov44 15 16
Kyle McMahon78Bernie Geoffrion431Bill Durnan1Bill Durnan
Kyle McMahon79Peter Stastny422Joe Malone2Charlie Gardiner
Kyle McMahon80Scott Stevens413Turk Broda3Turk Broda
Kyle McMahon81Georges Vezina404Anatoli Firsov4Sergei Fedorov
Kyle McMahon82Marcel Dionne395Frank Mahovlich5Max Bentley
Kyle McMahon83Max Bentley386Brett Hull6Brett Hull
Kyle McMahon84Zdeno Chara377Dit Clapper7Aurele Joliat
Kyle McMahon85Joe Malone368Clint Benedict8Jari Kurri
Kyle McMahon86Jari Kurri359Jari Kurri9Cy Denneny
Kyle McMahon87Jacques Lemaire3410Cy Denneny10Boris Mikhailov
Kyle McMahon88Frank McGee33 17 18
Kyle McMahon89Nels Stewart321Bill Durnan1Sergei Fedorov
Kyle McMahon90Bill Gadsby312Turk Broda2Zdeno Chara
Kyle McMahon91Chris Pronger303Sergei Fedorov3Bill Cowley
Kyle McMahon92Ed Belfour294Brett Hull4Bill Gadsby
Kyle McMahon93Cy Denneny285Bill Gadsby5Duncan Keith
Kyle McMahon94Borje Salming276Borje Salming6Boris Mikhailov
Kyle McMahon95Bill Cowley267Elmer Lach7Ed Belfour
Kyle McMahon96Andy Bathgate258Boris Mikhailov8Brian Leetch
Kyle McMahon97Busher Jackson249Brian Leetch9Nels Stewart
Kyle McMahon98Duncan Keith2310Nels Stewart10Eric Lindros
Kyle McMahon99Joe Thornton22 19 20
Kyle McMahon100Hugh Lehman211Dave Keon1Dave Keon
Kyle McMahon101Elmer Lach202Eddie Gerard2Eddie Gerard
Kyle McMahon102Valeri Vasiliev193Duncan Keith3Sid Abel
Kyle McMahon103Norm Ullman184Sid Abel4Serge Savard
Kyle McMahon104Tommy Phillips175Bill Gadsby5Brian Leetch
Kyle McMahon105Teemu Selanne166Joe Thornton6Peter Stastny
Kyle McMahon106Jiri Holecek157Nels Stewart7Mark Howe
Kyle McMahon107Vladimir Martinec148Serge Savard8Russell Bowie
Kyle McMahon108Mark Howe139Brian Leetch9Jiri Holecek
Kyle McMahon109Al MacInnis1210Mark Howe10Tony Esposito
Kyle McMahon110Alex Delvecchio11 21
Kyle McMahon111Vladimir Zabrodsky101Sid Abel
Kyle McMahon112Tiny Thompson92Eddie Gerard
Kyle McMahon113Vsevolod Bobrov83Russell Bowie
Kyle McMahon114Brian Leetch74Peter Stastny
Kyle McMahon115Ron Francis65Serge Savard
Kyle McMahon116Sven Tumba56Valeri Vasiliev
Kyle McMahon117Hod Stuart47Norm Ullman
Kyle McMahon118Henrik Lundqvist38Vladimir Martinec
Kyle McMahon119Jan Suchy29Tony Esposito
Kyle McMahon120Jarome Iginla110Toe Blake
VoterRankPlayerPoints 1 2
ehhedler1Wayne Gretzky1201Wayne Gretzky1Jean Beliveau
ehhedler2Bobby Orr1192Bobby Orr2Doug Harvey
ehhedler3Mario Lemieux1183Mario Lemieux3Maurice Richard
ehhedler4Gordie Howe1174Gordie Howe4Bobby Hull
ehhedler5Jean Beliveau1165Jean Beliveau5Dominik Hasek
ehhedler6Doug Harvey1156Doug Harvey6Patrick Roy
ehhedler7Frank Nighbor1147Maurice Richard7Eddie Shore
ehhedler8Maurice Richard1138Bobby Hull8Ray Bourque
ehhedler9Eddie Shore1129Patrick Roy9Sidney Crosby
ehhedler10Dominik Hasek11110Ray Bourque10Howie Morenz
ehhedler11Bobby Hull110 3 4
ehhedler12Patrick Roy1091Dominik Hasek1Frank Nighbor
ehhedler13Nicklas Lidstrom1082Eddie Shore2Nicklas Lidstrom
ehhedler14Stan Mikita1073Ray Bourque3Red Kelly
ehhedler15Ray Bourque1064Nicklas Lidstrom4Jaromir Jagr
ehhedler16Sidney Crosby1055Sidney Crosby5Guy Lafleur
ehhedler17Bobby Clarke1046Howie Morenz6Alex Ovechkin
ehhedler18Howie Morenz1037Jaromir Jagr7Denis Potvin
ehhedler19Jaromir Jagr1028Stan Mikita8Stan Mikita
ehhedler20Guy Lafleur1019Alex Ovechkin9Phil Esposito
ehhedler21Alex Ovechkin10010Denis Potvin10Jacques Plante
ehhedler22Denis Potvin99 5 6
ehhedler23Red Kelly981Frank Nighbor1Bobby Clarke
ehhedler24Phil Esposito972Guy Lafleur2Phil Esposito
ehhedler25Cyclone Taylor963Alex Ovechkin3Cyclone Taylor
ehhedler26Jacques Plante954Stan Mikita4Bryan Trottier
ehhedler27Joe Sakic945Bobby Clarke5Joe Sakic
ehhedler28Bryan Trottier936Phil Esposito6Sergei Makarov
ehhedler29Martin Brodeur927Viacheslav Fetisov7Viacheslav Fetisov
ehhedler30Mark Messier918Martin Brodeur8Martin Brodeur
ehhedler31Steve Yzerman909Mark Messier9Glenn Hall
ehhedler32Peter Forsberg8910Glenn Hall10Mike Bossy
ehhedler33Sergei Fedorov88 7 8
ehhedler34Sergei Makarov871Cyclone Taylor1Steve Yzerman
ehhedler35Syl Apps862Bryan Trottier2Ted Lindsay
ehhedler36Viacheslav Fetisov853Joe Sakic3Mike Bossy
ehhedler37Evgeni Malkin844Steve Yzerman4Larry Robinson
ehhedler38Glenn Hall835Martin Brodeur5Terry Sawchuk
ehhedler39Terry Sawchuk826Bill Cook6Chris Chelios
ehhedler40Ted Lindsay817Ted Lindsay7Ken Dryden
ehhedler41Milt Schmidt808Mike Bossy8Paul Coffey
ehhedler42Chris Pronger799Larry Robinson9Newsy Lalonde
ehhedler43Chris Chelios7810Newsy Lalonde10Brad Park
ehhedler44Bill Cook77 9 10
ehhedler45Mike Bossy761Syl Apps1Peter Forsberg
ehhedler46Newsy Lalonde752Chris Chelios2Syl Apps
ehhedler47Brian Leetch743Ken Dryden3Milt Schmidt
ehhedler48Larry Robinson734Henri Richard4Ken Dryden
ehhedler49Harry Cameron725Valeri Kharlamov5Henri Richard
ehhedler50Jari Kurri716Charlie Conacher6Charlie Conacher
ehhedler51Jack Walker707Frank Boucher7Bernie Geoffrion
ehhedler52Earl Seibert698King Clancy8Pierre Pilote
ehhedler53Pierre Pilote689Pierre Pilote9Paul Coffey
ehhedler54Hap Holmes6710Paul Coffey10Brad Park
ehhedler55Dave Keon66 11 12
ehhedler56Henri Richard651Peter Forsberg1Charlie Conacher
ehhedler57Valeri Kharlamov642Evgeni Malkin2Earl Seibert
ehhedler58Pavel Bure633Milt Schmidt3Ted Kennedy
ehhedler59Dickie Moore624Charlie Conacher4Bernie Geoffrion
ehhedler60Marcel Dionne615Earl Seibert5Chris Pronger
ehhedler61Bernie Geoffrion606Bernie Geoffrion6Marcel Dionne
ehhedler62Dit Clapper597Pierre Pilote7Tim Horton
ehhedler63Ken Dryden588Marcel Dionne8Frank Brimsek
ehhedler64Patrick Kane579Frank Brimsek9Frank Mahovlich
ehhedler65Doug Gilmour5610Vladislav Tretiak10Sprague Cleghorn
ehhedler66Teemu Selanne55 13 14
ehhedler67Duncan Keith541Earl Seibert1Dickie Moore
ehhedler68Charlie Conacher532Bernie Geoffrion2Dit Clapper
ehhedler69Bill Durnan523Tim Horton3Frank Mahovlich
ehhedler70Max Bentley514Marcel Dionne4Teemu Selanne
ehhedler71Frank Mahovlich505Frank Mahovlich5Tim Horton
ehhedler72Henrik Zetterberg496Teemu Selanne6Bill Durnan
ehhedler73Pavel Datsyuk487Scott Stevens7Joe Malone
ehhedler74Scott Stevens478Al MacInnis8Clint Benedict
ehhedler75Brett Hull469Georges Vezina9Al MacInnis
ehhedler76Tim Horton4510Andy Bathgate10Georges Vezina
ehhedler77Brad Park44 15 16
ehhedler78Eric Lindros431Jari Kurri1Sergei Fedorov
ehhedler79Paul Coffey422Dit Clapper2Jari Kurri
ehhedler80Joe Malone413Bill Durnan3Max Bentley
ehhedler81Elmer Lach404Frank Mahovlich4Bill Durnan
ehhedler82King Clancy395Joe Malone5Brett Hull
ehhedler83Moose Johnson386Brett Hull6Turk Broda
ehhedler84Dale Hawerchuk377Turk Broda7Cy Denneny
ehhedler85Frank Boucher368Clint Benedict8Aurele Joliat
ehhedler86Mike Modano359Cy Denneny9Boris Mikhailov
ehhedler87Anze Kopitar3410Anatoli Firsov10Charlie Gardiner
ehhedler88Turk Broda33 17 18
ehhedler89Ted Kennedy321Sergei Fedorov1Sergei Fedorov
ehhedler90Bill Cowley312Elmer Lach2Brian Leetch
ehhedler91Martin St. Louis303Brian Leetch3Duncan Keith
ehhedler92Jarome Iginla294Bill Durnan4Martin St. Louis
ehhedler93Clint Benedict285Brett Hull5Eric Lindros
ehhedler94Tommy Phillips276Turk Broda6Bill Cowley
ehhedler95Patrice Bergeron267Borje Salming7Boris Mikhailov
ehhedler96Ron Francis258Boris Mikhailov8Nels Stewart
ehhedler97Frank Foyston249Nels Stewart9Zdeno Chara
ehhedler98Nels Stewart2310Bill Gadsby10Ed Belfour
ehhedler99Jonathan Toews22 19 20
ehhedler100Mats Sundin211Brian Leetch1Brian Leetch
ehhedler101Joe Thornton202Dave Keon2Dave Keon
ehhedler102Toe Blake193Patrick Kane3Pavel Bure
ehhedler103Aurele Joliat184Duncan Keith4Martin St. Louis
ehhedler104Russell Bowie175Martin St. Louis5Eric Lindros
ehhedler105Cy Denneny166Eric Lindros6Russell Bowie
ehhedler106Al MacInnis157Joe Thornton7Bernie Parent
ehhedler107Boris Mikhailov148Sid Abel8Sid Abel
ehhedler108Bernie Parent139Peter Stastny9Peter Stastny
ehhedler109Pat LaFontaine1210Toe Blake10Toe Blake
ehhedler110Sid Abel11 21
ehhedler111Norm Ullman101Pavel Bure
ehhedler112Mickey MacKay92Doug Gilmour
ehhedler113George Hainsworth83Bernie Parent
ehhedler114Frank Brimsek74Sid Abel
ehhedler115Jean Ratelle65Peter Stastny
ehhedler116Borje Salming56Toe Blake
ehhedler117Gilbert Perreault47Russell Bowie
ehhedler118Peter Stastny38Norm Ullman
ehhedler119Zdeno Chara29Jarome Iginla
ehhedler120Hakan Loob110Eddie Gerard
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Canadiens1958

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Resilient Beast, a millennial list. Unblended ingredients.

Kyle, you could see the effort, balancing eras and attributes.

ehhedler, pretentious. Ranking of Marcel Dionne and Patrick Kane, exposed things.
 

TheEye

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Canadiens1958 said:
Resilient Beast, a millennial list. Unblended ingredients.

Kyle, you could see the effort, balancing eras and attributes.

ehhedler, pretentious. Ranking of Marcel Dionne and Patrick Kane, exposed things.
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If you're going down that road with multiple participants, perhaps your list can be consequently considered as a baby boomer list, with many Original Six biases? Conceivably, your rankings of Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin also expose things?
 
sr edler

sr edler

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Oh my. I didn't expect that particular beef carrying over to my list thread. I'm flattered to share list thread with Kyle though since I like his posting. It's well reasoned and he's always carrying a good tone too. He didn't list Bure though, which I never can forgive him for. :cool:
 
Canadiens1958

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Thank you MXD.

Crosby and Ovechkin. List rankings should have a blend of past and present for active players if they are ranked at all.

Last two seasons Ovechkin and Crosby have seen their TGA numbers drop significantly.

Alex Ovechkin Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

Pretentious. Perhaps Dionne and Kane are hard to rank. But bookending them around three superior players and roughly ten spots ahead of Zetterberg and Datsyuk is ........

Then Stevens ahead of Horton? Eliminate "The Hit" or hits on Lindros and you have a Top 200 prospect in Stevens. Horton battled Howe and Bobby Hull thru 200+ games each.
 
ResilientBeast

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Canadiens1958 said:
Resilient Beast, a millennial list. Unblended ingredients.

Kyle, you could see the effort, balancing eras and attributes.

ehhedler, pretentious. Ranking of Marcel Dionne and Patrick Kane, exposed things.
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You had Gretzky 6th....I can't take your opinions on other lists seriously

But I'll play ball, what makes my list "millennial" with "unblended ingredients"
 
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Canadiens1958

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ResilientBeast said:
You had Gretzky 6th....I can't take your opinions on other lists seriously

But I'll play ball, what makes my list "millennial" with "unblended ingredients"
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Jari Kurri #115. Ingredients are there, but were never blended or cross compared into an end result. Millenial. As in superficial. Toss together the necessary number of names without any contributions to the discussion.
 
Bear of Bad News

Bear of Bad News

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TheEye said:
If you're going down that road with multiple participants, perhaps your list can be consequently considered as a baby boomer list, with many Original Six biases? Conceivably, your rankings of Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin also expose things?
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Let's move on from this particular contention point.
 
ResilientBeast

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Canadiens1958 said:
Jari Kurri #115. Ingredients are there, but were never blended or cross compared into an end result. Millenial. As in superficial. Toss together the necessary number of names without any contributions to the discussion.
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Gretzky #6

At least you're committed to your bit
 
ResilientBeast

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My list did start out and still feels like I hadn't quite shifted from an ATD mindset with my preconceptions about players strengths and weaknesses being amplified. (Is that C1958's music?)

Only thing I really don't like is my initial placement of Firsov, not sure why I had him so low

Totally fine with where I put Kurri

Edit: Thank you @quoipourquoi for running the project sorry I had to drop out half way through for work and school.
 
Kyle McMahon

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ehhedler said:
Oh my. I didn't expect that particular beef carrying over to my list thread. I'm flattered to share list thread with Kyle though since I like his posting. It's well reasoned and he's always carrying a good tone too. He didn't list Bure though, which I never can forgive him for. :cool:
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Just ran out of room. I think I have about 16 guys who I consider to be from the post-iron curtain/pre-cap era. Plus others like Messier or Lidstrom that I considered as belonging to the previous/next generation, who nonetheless had significant impacts in the 90's. Couldn't justify including any more. My last few 90's guys were Selanne, MacInnis, Leetch, and Francis. I wouldn't bump any of them for Bure, as I am generally low on players with health concerns/consistency issues. What made Bure better than say...Brett Hull and Russell Bowie for you?
 
DannyGallivan

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K Fleur said:
Hockey lists can be "millennial" now?
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Kyle McMahon said:
What made Bure better than say...Brett Hull and Russell Bowie for you?
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Bure's skating ability, puck carrying skills and shot versatility made him more dynamic than (Brett) Hull and thus an overall more dangerous player. This showed when they line-up against each other in a relatively run and gun-ish 1st round playoff series during the 94–95 playoffs. I also stand by the point I made in one of the voting threads that Hull's peak goal scoring looks a bit peer crazier than it probably was since he appeared kind of in a vacuum in-between the 80s (Bossy, et cetera) and the 90s (Selänne, Mogilny, Bure, et cetera) where his strongest competition for the goal scoring crown was either non- or half-Lemieux'd Kevin Stevens or star players with a more balanced goals-to-assist ratio/output (Yzerman).

As for Bowie, it's hard get a good grasp of him since his team was pretty mediocre and there were other non-HOF players with similar output (Harry Smith/Herb Jordan) from season to season, although not as consistently. He wasn't tested that much in big prize games. I think he toured New York City with the Victorias more than he appeared on the biggest possible stages. I also think he was probably less of an all ice player than Bure, since he had a defensive conscience in Blair Russel, and also less of an all-situations guy but that can probably be blamed a bit on the era/position. I think he was a pretty good skater though, but his energy seems to have been wasted mostly in one direction.
 
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Canadiens1958 said:
Then Stevens ahead of Horton? Eliminate "The Hit" or hits on Lindros and you have a Top 200 prospect in Stevens. Horton battled Howe and Bobby Hull thru 200+ games each.
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Are you saying that Stevens without ending Lindros' career, or more favorably interpreted, his hitting ability, he is barely a top 200 player of all time?
 
Bear of Bad News

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TheEye said:
The change in TGA ratios for Ovechkin and Crosby over the past two seasons are nearly identical to the change for Bobby Orr during the 1973-74 and 1975-75 seasons. I'm guessing whatever theory applies to them, must equally apply to him.
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LET'S MOVE ON FROM THIS PARTICULAR CONTENTION POINT.
 
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I'm fine with Wayne Gretzky at 6th or 7th, though I ultimately disagree because I think Gretzky excelled in big moments so his one-sidedness can be forgiven.

Beyond the statistical fireworks, it's conceivable that having a defenseman like Doug Harvey on your blueline is giving you better probability of winning a Stanley Cup than having Wayne Gretzky as your #1 center, if you randomize every other variables such as team strenght and composition, coach, style of play, era, adversaries, etc.
 

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BenchBrawl said:
I'm fine with Wayne Gretzky at 6th or 7th, though I ultimately disagree because I think Gretzky excelled in big moments so his one-sidedness can be forgiven.

Beyond the statistical fireworks, it's conceivable that having a defenseman like Doug Harvey on your blueline is giving you better probability of winning a Stanley Cup than having Wayne Gretzky as your #1 center, if you randomize every other variables such as team strenght and composition, coach, style of play, era, adversaries, etc.
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I don't have a problem with his ranking as much as I do with the fact that he didn't argue for it in vote 1. It's easily the most controversial vote in this project (and C58 knew it would be) - and at no point did he express he was so low on Gretzky to allow others to try and present differing opinions, or to invite him to justify his case a bit more. Which I feel is the point of this project.
 
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