Confirmed Trade: [VGK/NYR] Brett Howden for Nick DeSimone and 2022 4th round pick

[Gardner McKay]

Yeah, that's part of the reason I made this prediction. Patrick is basically a puck chase away from retirement isn't he?

I don't think so. I thought some of it was migrant issues?

 

[IranCondraAffair]

I don't think so. I thought some of it was migrant issues?

Aren't those associated with concussions and sub-concussive hits though?

 

[Gardner McKay]

Aren't those associated with concussions and sub-concussive hits though?

Dunno. I'm not a doctor.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

I couldn't care less about the return. I'm just happy Howden is gone.

 

[Machinehead]

So can I even expect Howden to be an adequate 4th liner Rangers fans?

On Henderson, yes.

 

[NYRangers3061]

With the right coaching and development, Howden has the potential to be a serviceable bottom 6 forward who puts up 15-25 points a season and can be a decent PKer. Don't think he'll amount to much more than that, even with a change of scenery/systems. A bit overrated because of his size and draft position.

What's the scouting report on DeSimone?

 

[Bankers Box]

What’s all the commotion about?

Its just for 2 weeks of his rights before free agency.

If the press are stating that some teams will offer Goodrow 6 years he will either get that (lol) from NYR or will go to free agency.

Tampa did well to get something for his rights.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

So can I even expect Howden to be an adequate 4th liner Rangers fans?

I'll say one good thing about him, he's pretty good at penalty killing. That's about it, he sucks ass.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Edit: Nick DeSimone is UFA negotiating rights to New York

 

[The Duck Knight]

Thank you all for the ringing endorsements. At least with these low expectations the only place to go is up. And if it means Reaves is gone it's an improvement by default.

 

[Cas]

I thought Nick DeSimone was in San Jose’s organization how did he end up in a Vegas-NYR trade.

Something doesn’t sound correct about this deal.

San Jose sent him to Vegas at the trade deadline for a 5th.

DeSimone is nothing special - he's an older career AHL player who has regressed since his peak two years ago. I'd be surprised if he has any sort of NHL future.

 

[Rec T]

First thought - Nick DeSimone sounds like one of the most Nu Yawk sounding names out there, he should fit right in...

 

[burstnbloom]

Someone gave up something for Brett howden. Sheesh

 

[LokiDog]

Since we were willing to let Howden go free to Seattle, and because our previous coach over used him and he very much failed his expectations with regards to what he was thought to be when we acquired him, NYR fans have a slightly exaggerated dislike for Howden. He’s an adequate - not good, but adequate - 4th liner who works hard, kills penalties and is young enough to still improve some. He has shown to be an offensive black hole so far and has a lot of brain farts. He’s fine on your 4th line, especially if you have 3 good lines above them.

 

[The don godfather]

So howden gonna play 3c for knights ?

 

[The Duck Knight]

So howden gonna play 3c for knights ?

I doubt it. Patrick/Roy/Krebs would probably all get a crack at 3C ahead of him.

 

[The don godfather]

I doubt it. Patrick/Roy/Krebs would probably all get a crack at 3C ahead of him.

Hope kid gets a chance . Only 23 I think hes gonna a turn it around. Knights obviously see something here.

 

[tomobson]

Howden needs AHL time. Quinn has really hurt Howden's career and now he needs a restart. Give him major minutes in the AHL and hope he can find some confidence in himself again. He's been one of the worst NHL players for two years now. His confidence is shot.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Aren't those associated with concussions and sub-concussive hits though?

They can be associated yes. Hard to determine causality though

 

[Filthy Dangles]

So howden gonna play 3c for knights ?

Lol. Henderson Knights, perhaps

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

He's a good locker room guy and he works hard. The PK is overrated. He isn't that good defensively and he's a blackhole offensively.

 

[smoneil]

Thank you all for the ringing endorsements. At least with these low expectations the only place to go is up. And if it means Reaves is gone it's an improvement by default.

He's all effort with nothing to show for it. I had a couple of "Howdens" on a soccer team I used to coach. Whenever one of my more skilled players started cutting runs short or half-assing it on defense, I would sub the out for a "Howden." When the skilled player went back in, the effort was back where it needed to be. They are useful players to have around, but won't really be difference makers. GREAT players to have in a practice environment. If Howden is your 13th forward, he should be useful in a limited way.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Thank god. Gallant loves this type of players so I'm glad he's gone. He's really, really bad...

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Thank you all for the ringing endorsements. At least with these low expectations the only place to go is up. And if it means Reaves is gone it's an improvement by default.

Frankly, I'd be shocked if Ryan Reaves didn't end up a Ranger. Doesn't Gallant love him? And the Rangers could use his toughness.

 

[Nickmo82]

Bon voyage Bretty! We hardly knew ye!