Waived: Vermette on Waivers for Buy-out by Yotes (2 years/1.75m per w/ Ducks)
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bwana63
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Welp, that's that. Shame, 'cause AV can help this team. Add this to the Q's screwups list.
Toews2Bickell
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Yes, I do know this. I also think that if 1.) he and Q had a better relationship and 2.) Hawks made the similar contract offer in terms of years and AAV to him that they did to AA and ARZ made to AV that he probably would have been OK moving his family to Chicago.
But, you're right, it seemed he had only ARZ on his mind once Chicago moved on.
JaegerDice
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Can't say I'm shocked that Vermette wasn't thrilled with how Q handled him.
But who knows, depending on the offers he gets and from who, he may be willing to give it another try.
Hawkaholic
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I'd be surprised if Chicago had interest at anything over 1mil. He didn't fit that well here, and he could help, but I don't think he would be much better than a few other options out there who could come cheaper.
BobbyJet
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Nor am I .... but the prospect of grabbing AV does open up a few possibilities. I haven't read this entire thread but here is my take:
- Once again Hawks may be faced with the option to sign a vet or go with youth. History says Hawks go with the vet, meaning another year of waiting for RFD prospects itching to get their chance at the bigs.
- Is there room on this club for AV and Kruger? Neither have much going for them offensively and Hawks need some scoring from the bottom 6. This could be the ideal time to move Kruger and free up some cap space.
- Does acquiring or not acquiring AV influence Vesey's decision? (assuming Hawks are even in the mix for his services)
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1) When you guys type "AV" I keep thinking you're talking about Alain Vigneault 
2) any chance at very cheap, veteran, middle 6 players should be taken no questions asked. Vermette would be as cheap as a Rockford kid but also most likely better.
3) Kruger doesn't need to be, and shouldn't be traded if he's signed. We need all the forward depth we can get
2) any chance at very cheap, veteran, middle 6 players should be taken no questions asked. Vermette would be as cheap as a Rockford kid but also most likely better.
3) Kruger doesn't need to be, and shouldn't be traded if he's signed. We need all the forward depth we can get
JaegerDice
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If the choice is between Vermette and Kruger, then you keep Kruger.
It's not though, since any Vermette discussion relies on the contract being 1mil or less.
It's not though, since any Vermette discussion relies on the contract being 1mil or less.
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Toews2Bickell
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Is he better than the alternative options at 4C? That's really the question here. What is AV's marginal value. I think it's positive at 1yr/1m.
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Toews2Bickell
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That's exactly why I think he might be interested in a discount. His effective salary will be a lot higher than a 1m AAV.
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I meant more in terms of is he going to come play on the 4th line for a coach he apparently disliked.
Blackhawkswincup
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Vermette was awful most of his time as a Hawk and he really wouldn't be much of a help to this team
He is on brink of washing out as a NHL player at this point
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
Haha. Just when I figured you would have realized you we 100% wrong about Vermette and also that being a seller at the deadline that year was a stupid mindset you come and post something even more stupid. Doubling down on uninformed and incorrect comments as usual.
TLEH
Pronounced T-Lay
Everyone wanted Vermette when his status on joining the Hawks was in the air. Now rumor has it he doesn't wish to be a Hawk again and everyone boards that bus claiming he's not a right fit. Ha.
It's now clear why other fan bases preach bandwagon when a Hawks fan walks by.
Well done boys.
It's now clear why other fan bases preach bandwagon when a Hawks fan walks by.
Well done boys.
Vermette looked done last year. I know he put up decent points but that was mostly because of ice time. He is still a smart player, but his legs are gone.
The Hawks need to get faster.
The Hawks need to get faster.
No Fun Shogun
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We're talking about maybe signing a guy to a cheap contract. At that point, we should be expecting decent at best. Don't think any of us suggested that we go after him if he's looking for anything more than a dirt cheap deal.
BobbyJet
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I'm not so sure about that this time BK. Vermette didn't exactly excel here and he isn't getting any younger. Take away his prowess at the dot and there's not a heck of a lot left at this stage in his career that's the least bit impressive. NHL teams are getting faster every year and Hawks are lagging in that regard. We need more speed throughout the line-up which is something that will mostly come with youth.... not another aging veteran who's best years are behind him.
Hawkaholic
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BK
"Goalie Apologist"
Once Vermette acclimated to the lineup he was a good player in the playoffs. His line was really good in the cup final. Saying he was bad in his time here is 100% inccorrect because he was brought in to help us win the cup and was a big factor in doing so.
He is no longer a top 6 player but to say he is close to washing out is again 100% incorrect. He is a more than capable bottom 6 center. Arizona was ****ing terrible last year and it started with their brutal goaltending. If you look at his number once he started playing with someone who actually tried on d (Tanguy) you will see that he would be a solid 3/4c for the Hawks.
Hawkaholic
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Problem is, Vermette won't be playing with a Patrick Sharp and a good Teravainen. He will be playing with the likes of Desjardins, Panik, Mashinter, Tootoo, Hartman, etc.
