Value of: Vatrano to DET

[datsyukfan]

Detroit has taken a big step this season and I could see them looking to add. They have a tun of depth up front (11 guys in double digit goals). I think vatrano could be a great add to round out the top 6. Only 2 year commitment at a good cap hit just over 3.5 per

What would ANA be looking for?

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[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Detroit has taken a big step this season and I could see them looking to add. They have a tun of depth up front (11 guys in double digit goals). I think vatrano could be a great add to round out the top 6. Only 2 year commitment at a good cap hit just over 3.5 per

What would ANA be looking for?

I don't see Detroit paying the price to acquire him to be honest.

 

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Detroit has taken a big step this season and I could see them looking to add. They have a tun of depth up front (11 guys in double digit goals). I think vatrano could be a great add to round out the top 6. Only 2 year commitment at a good cap hit just over 3.5 per

What would ANA be looking for?

Red wings are too cheap to pay the price , like @Voodoo Glow Skulls said

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Red wings are too cheap to pay the price , like @Voodoo Glow Skulls said

It's not being cheap, it's just trading for more offensive with all the depth they have. No need to, IMO.

 

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It's not being cheap, it's just trading for more offensive with all the depth they have. No need to, IMO.

does this team have more offensive depth than the 08 team? If not then keep adding.

The cup won’t be won by playing it safe, in my honest opinion

 

[datsyukfan]

I don't see Detroit paying the price to acquire him to be honest.

What would be the price in your opinion?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Detroit has taken a big step this season and I could see them looking to add. They have a tun of depth up front (11 guys in double digit goals). I think vatrano could be a great add to round out the top 6. Only 2 year commitment at a good cap hit just over 3.5 per

What would ANA be looking for?

I mean are you asking for him at full price, or trying to get him down to 1.8. Because I imagine if he’s available some teams might want to pay to get that extra value.

For us to move him, we’d need more than what we would get back next years deadline…. So a 1st prob isn’t really close to enough

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

What would be the price in your opinion?

I'd guess it starts with a 1st, and then add. Verbeek knows the Wings, so maybe a player he liked in the prospect pool back then.

Probably more than just a 1st and a decent prospect.

 

[n8]

Detroit has taken a big step this season and I could see them looking to add. They have a tun of depth up front (11 guys in double digit goals). I think vatrano could be a great add to round out the top 6. Only 2 year commitment at a good cap hit just over 3.5 per

What would ANA be looking for?

Question 1: are you willing to part with your 1st.
If yes:
Question 2: what else are you willing to part with?
If no:
CLOSE THREAD

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Most of the Wings's roster especially the bottom 6 is basically what you would trade for at the deadline, they'll just go in with what they have and make the changes in the summer imo depending how the playoffs go for them

 

[nbwingsfan]

does this team have more offensive depth than the 08 team? If not then keep adding.

The cup won’t be won by playing it safe, in my honest opinion

Detroit is a hell of a lot further than a Frank Vatrano away from a Cup.

We need a #1A/B center and/or a true top pairing D.

Anything else won’t make a difference really.

 

[13to40]

Detroit is a hell of a lot further than a Frank Vatrano away from a Cup.

We need a #1A/B center and/or a true top pairing D.

Anything else won’t make a difference really.

This ^

If the wings were a Frankie V away from the cup, then they would happily give away a 1st + Berggren/Wallinder/Aljo/Buch

 

[Steve Zissou]

Vatrano has had a huge year. Though he also takes a ton of dumb penalties.

 

[FissionFire]

does this team have more offensive depth than the 08 team? If not then keep adding.

The cup won’t be won by playing it safe, in my honest opinion

Won’t win the Cup this year even with Vatrano. The team has to dramatically improve their defense to be a serious contender. No point pissing away high picks and prospects for a player who won’t make us into a serious threat.

 

[datsyukfan]

Won’t win the Cup this year even with Vatrano. The team has to dramatically improve their defense to be a serious contender. No point pissing away high picks and prospects for a player who won’t make us into a serious threat.

Vatrano isn’t a rental though

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

does this team have more offensive depth than the 08 team? If not then keep adding.

The cup won’t be won by playing it safe, in my honest opinion

Vatrano doesn't push the Wings over the edge to win the cup. They are one injury to a key player (Lyon, Larkin, Seider, Walman, Raymond) away from being an easy sweep in the playoffs.

Wings are getting a lot better but likely still two years out from being a legit threat in the playoffs.

 

[datsyukfan]

Vatrano doesn't push the Wings over the edge to win the cup. They are one injury to a key player (Lyon, Larkin, Seider, Walman, Raymond) away from being an easy sweep in the playoffs.

Wings are getting a lot better but likely still two years out from being a legit threat in the playoffs.

You may be right but vatrano isn’t a rental

 

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Vatrano doesn't push the Wings over the edge to win the cup. They are one injury to a key player (Lyon, Larkin, Seider, Walman, Raymond) away from being an easy sweep in the playoffs.

Wings are getting a lot better but likely still two years out from being a legit threat in the playoffs.

Fine, Pettersson then

 

[KJoe88]

Not interested at all.

 

[GreytWun]

They are a top 5 offensive team this year, but need to add more offence instead of defense ? Lol

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It'll be funny watching the people dreaming up all these trade proposals for Detroit rage out when Yzerman makes a couple minor upgrades.

 

[datsyukfan]

It'll be funny watching the people dreaming up all these trade proposals for Detroit rage out when Yzerman makes a couple minor upgrades.

I’m not sure how many minor upgrades they can make though. They have 2 guys on their 4th line with 14 and 16 goals. Even their bottom 5 D-men are solid NHL d-men. They really can only make relatively big moves or they mine as well stand pat as they won’t be improving. Don’t need depth, they need difference makers

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I’m not sure how many minor upgrades they can make though. They have 2 guys on their 4th line with 14 and 16 goals. Even their bottom 5 D-men are solid NHL d-men. They really can only make relatively big moves or they mine as well stand pat as they won’t be improving. Don’t need depth, they need difference makers

Everybody keeps talking about adding forwards like Detroit isn't already clogged at forward to the point that Berggren is rejecting a contract. And it's not like it's bad. They're just outside the top 5 in scoring.

Meanwhile, their defense is rancid and they don't have help coming anytime soon on the right side. Think if you see any move of significant, that's where you see it.

Also FWIW, everybody's going out of their mind for Elliotte speculating Guentzel (Which makes no sense, and he admits it's just speculation with no rumors to indicate it's happening) but completely ignores that Marek, on the same podcast, is saying he's heard from multiple people that Detroit wants a pain in the ass defenseman. (Which make sense based on need and Yzerman loving ultra-competitive, gritty players)

 

[Wattsburgh]

If I were Detroit I’d just stay put. See what a year of playoffs does for the team and keep the prospects / picks for next season.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If I were Detroit I’d just stay put. See what a year of playoffs does for the team and keep the prospects / picks for next season.

Vatrano would make sense for a team that is a little more of a realistic contender, not sure detroit is quite there yet.