Confirmed with Link: Vanek to the Wings, 1 year 3 million with a NTC

[jkutswings]

So will he take #26 since Jurco is gone this time around or stay with #62?

That pic needs the caption, "Welcome to the club, bro. We're players that Holland outbid himself for."

 

[InjuredChoker]

Lee has ONE 40 goal season, next to Tavares on a team that had a ridiculous year offensively. Franzen had a 39 goal pace one year and almost exactly the same career PPG as Lee.
Kronwall > McDonagh, easily.
Pacioretty is basically a healthier version of Franzen.
Howard’s career stats are very comparable to Schneider’s. But I guess you take him because of 1-2 ~30-game seasons in Vancouver?

Larkin exceeded Lee’s career high in points his 3rd season in the league. And got close to Pacioretty’s high. But Larkin is just a ”what if”.

kronner has had better overall career than mcdonagh but mcdonagh of the past 6 years or so is pretty similar level player that prime kronwall was. schneider has 0.05 better sv%. that's pretty significant. since 09-10, schneider has second best sv% (min 300 games played). howard doesn't crack top 15. the rest is accurate.

 

[Pavels Dog]

kronner has had better overall career than mcdonagh but mcdonagh of the past 6 years or so is pretty similar level player that prime kronwall was. schneider has 0.05 better sv%. that's pretty significant. since 09-10, schneider has second best sv% (min 300 games played). howard doesn't crack top 15. the rest is accurate.

Schneider of the last two seasons suck. His career sv% will likely drop. McDonagh is likely past his peak too.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Schneider of the last two seasons suck. His career sv% will likely drop. McDonagh is likely past his peak too.

it will likely drop but you said 'career stats'. as of now, schneider has pretty clear advantage.

mcdonagh could be past his peak but still in his prime. he's 29 now so he should have some good years left.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

lol

"I want my team to compete for championships but also draft elite talent year after year."

Two years removed from the playoffs and people are already getting pissy. Can't wait until the playoff drought hits year five. But hey, this is what people around here wanted. Enjoy the losing.

Who exactly are you quoting here? Is there a user named Strawman?

 

[Pavels Dog]

it will likely drop but you said 'career stats'. as of now, schneider has pretty clear advantage.

mcdonagh could be past his peak but still in his prime.

When comparing players it makes sense not to get hung up on a 0.05sv% advantage when one guy is younger. If anyone thinks Schneider is elite but Howard isn’t I feel that’s like saying the apple is a fruit but the orange is a vegetable.

 

[RedMenace]

Must almost every player thread devolve into Holland bashing?

We get it, the majority of people here don't like Ken Holland and want him removed; however, hijacking nearly every. single. thread. is tiresome at best.

 

[Invictus12]

Who exactly are you quoting here? Is there a user named Strawman?

What strawman? That is the theme that's pushed by many here and its very easy to backtrack and display it. "Our team is bad and Ken Holland is terrible." 'We need to tank because that's how you get high-end talent but, (oh and this is just solid logic here) there's no excuse for us not being able to find elite talent when we were competing for cups year after year and picking high as a result."

Mind you, just 3 years ago Holland was bashed for not making trades that would make the team competitive... (Right handed offensive defensemen comes to mind) Then we got one but Kronwall went completely south and suddenly, Holland was suppose to start the rebuild the minute Lidstrom retired and some even claim as far back as our last trip of the finals in 09... Stupidity has no limits. Just change the bull... and keep crying.

 

[lomekian]

it will likely drop but you said 'career stats'. as of now, schneider has pretty clear advantage.

mcdonagh could be past his peak but still in his prime. he's 29 now so he should have some good years left.

Schneider's career stats are massively buffed by his astonishing figures as a back up behind a defence that was strong at the time. As a starter he's marginally better than Howard, and worse of late.

 

[Heaton]

This thread has also run it's course.