Signing(s): Vance Joseph is the new Broncos head coach

[Marc the Habs Fan]

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[AtlantaWhaler]

Wow....thought for sure they'd wait on Shanahan.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Gonna be realllllly interesting to see how Joseph's aggressive playcalling meshes with the guys Denver has in place.

He made the Dolphins D look competent for stretches with probably one of the worst LB corps in the league and a busted secondary. Imagine what he can do with the likes of Ward, Talib, Harris in the secondary and then monsters like Miller and Wolfe rushing the passer. He won't have an all pro DT in Suh but with that secondary he won't need it lol.

Was hoping he'd stick around in Miami but that's way too good of an offer to turn down. All Denver has to do is go out and get a QB and they'll be right back in the picture.

 

[Terry Yake]

shocked shanahan didn't get the job

i think this pretty much means he ends up in LA

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Shanahan can afford to be patient. He's got a good gig.

 

[Bonzai12]

Hopefully McCoy/Phillips are his assistants.

They wanted Joseph the entire process. Got their man.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

This all but confirms Wade is gone. Joseph runs an entirely different scheme.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Send him to Miami then.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

He'll end up somewhere. Can't see Suh being real enthusiastic about the two gaping that is required in a 3-4 base.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Surprised they are going with a defensive guy when they need to develop a QB, you figure the new HC could have kept Wade around if he wanted to keep coaching(maybe he doesn't?)

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

I would rather retain Wade as DC and his 3-4 than promote Woods. And for the love of God, please not McCoy as OC.

I like Vance, but Jesus Christ.

 

[What the Faulk]

Anyone else not really impressed with Joseph in Miami?

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

Elway sees something in his leadership ability first and foremost it sounds like. Players and people around the NFL rave about how he can get the best out of and connect with his players. He had a depleted roster in Miami for much of the year because IIRC they had LB, end and secondary issues and some Dolphins fans on the Broncos forums I'm on say that talent wise their defense this year was worse than the previous couple. Maybe PP62 can corroborate or dispute that.

Regardless, I think it'd make sense to keep a guy like Wade as DC. Previous history working together and it'd take some stuff off of his plate.

 

[PanthersPens62]

Gonna be realllllly interesting to see how Joseph's aggressive playcalling meshes with the guys Denver has in place.

He made the Dolphins D look competent for stretches with probably one of the worst LB corps in the league and a busted secondary. Imagine what he can do with the likes of Ward, Talib, Harris in the secondary and then monsters like Miller and Wolfe rushing the passer. He won't have an all pro DT in Suh but with that secondary he won't need it lol.

Was hoping he'd stick around in Miami but that's way too good of an offer to turn down. All Denver has to do is go out and get a QB and they'll be right back in the picture.

Very well said. He will be missed here in Miami.

 

[PanthersPens62]

Elway sees something in his leadership ability first and foremost it sounds like. Players and people around the NFL rave about how he can get the best out of and connect with his players. He had a depleted roster in Miami for much of the year because IIRC they had LB, end and secondary issues and some Dolphins fans on the Broncos forums I'm on say that talent wise their defense this year was worse than the previous couple. Maybe PP62 can corroborate or dispute that.

Regardless, I think it'd make sense to keep a guy like Wade as DC. Previous history working together and it'd take some stuff off of his plate.

I think you nailed it my friend. He completely won over Suh early on, which in and of itself was no small task. Injuries were the main reason the defense faltered down the stretch. Given talent, he will do fine.

 

[InjuredChoker]

He'll end up somewhere. Can't see Suh being real enthusiastic about the two gaping that is required in a 3-4 base.

wade has used one gap in denver, no?

though he probably couldn't do that in miami. not with their 'linebackers'.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Odd to see Denver go back to a HC who specializes in defense especially with young QB to develop and a strong D with veteran DC already in place

Figured Shanahan was going to get job

 

[Voight]

Phillips is all but gone IMO.

Thought this was Shanny Jrs to lose.

 

[Bonzai12]

phillips had a one gap

I doubt the Broncos change the scheme too much. Joseph still claims himself to be a 3-4 guy but didn't want to set the Dolphins.

From Joseph last year in his move to Miami -

“I don’t want to be a guy who as a coordinator, I’m a 3-4 guy with 4-3 personnel-driven team,” Joseph said. “I’m not going to say, ‘Well, let’s change it,’ and set us back two or three years. That’s not smart in my opinion. That’s not coordinating. If this team had 3-4 personnel, we’d be a 3-4 defense. I can do both. For me, it’s not a big deal to be a 3-4 or 4-3 defense, it’s just numbers. It would be a shame to come to a place that’s close to being good on defense and then flip it, then you’re three years away again. I didn’t want to do that.”

 

[Fish on The Sand]

When was the last time a team hired away a Miami assistant? This seems like madness.

 

[ShootIt]

Anyone else not really impressed with Joseph in Miami?

Not really sad to see him go. Sure the defensive personnel was bad, and injuries didn't help. But I feel like adjustments were lacking.

I mean the team set a record for most yards given up, and their linebacker/front four was worse last year. And the secondary wasn't that much better, minus a healthy Jones.

 

[PanthersPens62]

Not really sad to see him go. Sure the defensive personnel was bad, and injuries didn't help. But I feel like adjustments were lacking.

I mean the team set a record for most yards given up, and their linebacker/front four was worse last year. And the secondary wasn't that much better, minus a healthy Jones.

Not completely true. Players raved about his ability to make halftime adjustments and it showed a lot during the win streak. Again, they were down to bare bones on D in the last month of the season.

 

[ShootIt]

Not completely true. Players raved about his ability to make halftime adjustments and it showed a lot during the win streak. Again, they were down to bare bones on D in the last month of the season.

Perhaps I'm just thinking towards the end of the year, when even if he made adjustments, it didn't matter due to the injuries.

But games like the 49ers, where Kaep almost led a comeback, and the Dolphins had a decent lead in the 4th.

Then the next game they get blown out by the Ravens... No answer for Pitta, but TBH their back 7 was on spare parts.

Best of luck to him in Denver. Definitely isn't stepping into a situation where he needs to do much work to the defense.

 

[Hasbro]

Vance has been on Elway's radar for a while. It's anything but a blind leap and if Wade does go the rest of the defensive staff is expected to stay.

McCoy returning would also auger well.

 

[Alex Jones]

Odd to see Denver go back to a HC who specializes in defense especially with young QB to develop and a strong D with veteran DC already in place

Figured Shanahan was going to get job

I mean, he played QB in college...so I doubt that he's totally lost on the offensive side.

Actually, it's a bit surprising to me that guy that barely ever played defense would become a defensive coach. Strange.