Confirmed with Link: [VAN/TBL] Cond. 1st ('20 / '21), 2019 3rd, Marek Mazanec for J.T. Miller

[PetterssonSimp]

It needs to be written down on paper and stuff to help him figure it out

Well we are discussing the GM who needed to be explained how LTIR worked but still lost a player he’d paid a 6th for at the previous TDL to waivers because of that lack of understand. So I feel this is quite true.

 

[Svencouver]

So he's going to come play with Petterson on the top line, have a career year and look great? He is a legit top 6 winger? Maybe?

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id...nd-pastrnak-landeskog-mackinnon-rantanen-more

"In ranking the best lines in the NHL, there's also what we'll call the Tampa Bay Lightning problem.
Last season, Nikita Kucherov and Steven Stamkos played with Vladislav Namestnikov, and things were pretty good. Then Vlad was traded, J.T. Miller joined the line, and things were not as good. "

And then there is this taken from a 2018-19 season preview:

"The player with question marks is JT Miller, and, because of that, his chart is most interesting here. He was hovering around average third-line performance with the Rangers until the trade. After the trade, he immediately spiked and climbed into comfortable second-line range by the end of the year. Even acknowledging that players can get hot for lots of reasons, it seems pretty clear that playing on Tampa’s top line sparked an improvement in Miller’s output."

"That leaves Miller positioned to have a career year. He signed an expensive extension this summer to keep him Tampa for another five years. Don’t be surprised if finding a home with Kuch and Stammer makes that contract look like a bargain."

So he was signed and expected to play on the first line, and score a career high in points, but played 75 games and got 47 pts? And he was moved off the first line going into the playoffs for a 21 year old in his second year and regulated to centering the fourth line, as to coincide with the 'expensive extension' he signed?

Tampa Bay Lightning 2018-2019 season preview: The top six forwards


So if you play him with Stamkos and Kucherov (Like Tampa did right after they traded for him) he performs like an average second liner, while playing on Tampa's top line (of all teams). I'm sure Petterson will match Stamkos' paltry 86 points that season (in his second year in the NHL) but who will provide Kuchorov's offence that brought in 100 pts and helped make JT look like a second liner?

I dont necessarily agree with the premise that JT Miller had average 3rd line production until Tampa.

Common Misconceptions: How Much Should That Forward Score?

NHL 2015-16 points average by position

According to this, his NYR average over the 3 years before he was moved to Tampa of...

20 goals, 30 assists, and 51 points

Is solidly in above average second line LW territory. Now, I probably imagine him to play on the top line with Pettersson since Pearson will likely play with Horvat given their flash of chemistry last season, and that turns into poor first liner territory. However, "poor first liner" is still a far, far cry from "average third-line performance". And that's assuming he doesn't perform better with more minutes and with the linemates of Pettersson and Boeser. It's not out of the question he could play worse... But I'd wager that he'd at least be good for 20 goals and 50 points based on his old performance, at his most average.

 

[I am toxic]

I mean, we could go in circles here and I could name two more busts, etc.

I wouldn't argue this is a good trade because our GM sucks at drafting.