Confirmed Signing with Link: [VAN] Canucks sign free agent F Andrei Kuzmenko (1 year, $950k)

[Knight53]

He looks like a star. PPG now with beauty OT winner. Him and Pettersson are insane.

 

[Bgav]

Absolute beauty

 

[Warh1ppy]

Ooof, he's pricing himself out of Vancouver with his play. One of the best free agent signings so far this season

 

[CherryToke]

Ooof, he's pricing himself out of Vancouver with his play.

Who isn't?

Thanks again Jimbo

 

[Warh1ppy]

Who isn't?

Thanks again Jimbo

Not to say that new management hasn't done much better with their signings.

If they're smart they're showcasing the hell out of Kuz and looking for the highest possible return IF his next contract, based on production; is looking like it's out of reach

 

[jackjohnson]

He is definitely not Nischushkin. Nischuhkin was a top 5 talent in his draft class who's development was derailed by a poor coach for young players (Ruff) and his own immaturity. Nischuhkin is also one of the very rare players who flames out then finds his game. He is far more talented than Kuzmemko and was not some late developing talent. He was a Bust 1st rounder that finally put it together.
The three players I used as comparisons all came to the NHL at a younger age (24 instead of 26) and if you look at their age 24 years all have very similar point production. If he turns out in between Kubalik and Mikheyev that is a pretty good UFA pick up. But it is not the second coming of any of the Russian snipers you are trying to use as comparison. The only thing they have in common is their passports.

Where are you now bro with your expert predictions??? 21 points in 21 games and he looks to be better than Kubalik lol

 

[Canadian Canuck]

For those who don't think Kuzmenko can hit 60 pts, he is now on pace for 75 points. 60 points isn't impossible. Esp with PP1 and playing with EP40.

Make it on pace for 82

 

[NYVanfan]

Theyre going to have to pay to get rid of myers to afford Kuz and Bo

 

[Seventy7]

Theyre going to have to pay to get rid of myers to afford Kuz and Bo

Doubt that. Myers is still a strong 3rd pair RHD that can play up the lineup for stretches if required. Problem in Van is they force him to do it full time and he is overpaid… but not like crazy overpaid when you consider that GMs still hand out 4+ million for RHD like Gudbranson/Ristolainen/Zaitsev (which Myers is far better than)

There is a supply and demand issue on RHD league wide, and every one of them will likely be overpaid when contract time comes IF they can eat NHL minutes. Myers can do this. The major issue in Van is that you are paying OEL Myers and Huggy a combined 21 million for a combined 3 goals on the season at the quarter point, and are paying too many wingers that don’t have enough intangibles to their game.

There will be interest in Myers, and while Van will have to take a contract back because the league is capped out, they won’t have to give up additional assets to move him, nor should they. His value will boost as a rental next season and since most of his annual $$ will already be paid out, Van could retain cap on the contract and extract even more.

Additionally, it looks to be a winger that’ll be on the move in Garland or Boeser, and that unfortunately is not a supply demand problem for the league, which may result in minimal return on the asset alla Paccioretty/Bjorkstrand…

In short expect Van to be patient for an actual return on Myers, while some team could add a ppg Brock Boeser for Pennie’s on the dollar.

Only contract I see Van give up assets to move is Pearson fwiw. OEL is pretty much unmovable unless they use a buyout… which would save ownership $$ on the total contract… perhaps something they’re considering.

My prediction is they keep Horvat unless someone overpays, they keep Kuzmenko, and they lose Garland/Boeser for next to nothing…. Making that OEL trade look oh so bad. Thank you Benning for setting the franchise back another 5 years.

 

[canuckking1]

Could have been eating at Joeys, playing with Conor Mcdavid. Look at the mess your in now bud.

The mess ain't looking all that bad now is it?

 

[canuckking1]

It’s too bad Kuzmenko prioritized good sushi or whatever it was over playing on a winning team with two superstar centres. That decision has probably cost him millions in future income.

You got into the playoffs in the welfare year. Shouldn't have made the cutline. Oilers "terrible D" is still better than the Canucks D lol. Oh no, good players help teams win.

Like Demko carrying your a** every year. Oh look, he isn;t this year and you look like garbage.

Congrats on the win though. Superstar Mikhieyev bailed you out. Got badly outshot by Seattle lol.

We don't care about Kuzmenko. He is no needle mover. He is just going to lose out on a lot of $$ by playing with average players when he could have pumpd up his #'s playing with actual elite players.

His loss.

These didn't age well...

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Where are you now bro with your expert predictions??? 21 points in 21 games and he looks to be better than Kubalik lol

They looking pretty good. He is well on his way to being a 60 point player. Lets hope he keeps up this pace.

 

[jackjohnson]

They looking pretty good. He is well on his way to being a 60 point player. Lets hope he keeps up this pace.

well on his way to being only a 60 point player?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

well on his way to being only a 60 point player?

There’s Some salty fans of other teams out there

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Doubt that. Myers is still a strong 3rd pair RHD that can play up the lineup for stretches if required. Problem in Van is they force him to do it full time and he is overpaid… but not like crazy overpaid when you consider that GMs still hand out 4+ million for RHD like Gudbranson/Ristolainen/Zaitsev (which Myers is far better than)

There is a supply and demand issue on RHD league wide, and every one of them will likely be overpaid when contract time comes IF they can eat NHL minutes. Myers can do this. The major issue in Van is that you are paying OEL Myers and Huggy a combined 21 million for a combined 3 goals on the season at the quarter point, and are paying too many wingers that don’t have enough intangibles to their game.

There will be interest in Myers, and while Van will have to take a contract back because the league is capped out, they won’t have to give up additional assets to move him, nor should they. His value will boost as a rental next season and since most of his annual $$ will already be paid out, Van could retain cap on the contract and extract even more.

Additionally, it looks to be a winger that’ll be on the move in Garland or Boeser, and that unfortunately is not a supply demand problem for the league, which may result in minimal return on the asset alla Paccioretty/Bjorkstrand…

In short expect Van to be patient for an actual return on Myers, while some team could add a ppg Brock Boeser for Pennie’s on the dollar.

Only contract I see Van give up assets to move is Pearson fwiw. OEL is pretty much unmovable unless they use a buyout… which would save ownership $$ on the total contract… perhaps something they’re considering.

My prediction is they keep Horvat unless someone overpays, they keep Kuzmenko, and they lose Garland/Boeser for next to nothing…. Making that OEL trade look oh so bad. Thank you Benning for setting the franchise back another 5 years.

I would wager we trade Boeser and Myers, Miller good chance he goes as well. PPG players are generally pretty easy to offload for profit. Miller likely is an off season, before July 1 deal though.

 

[jackjohnson]

Theyre going to have to pay to get rid of myers to afford Kuz and Bo

Myers has one year left and he is a commodity. Canucks dont need to "pay" since all 32 teams are looking for RHD. If you cant find a top pairing RHD then you go for the next best player available. You will see a team desperate enough to pay a 1st round pick once injury piles up in the middle of the season. Myers is still better than all the waiver wire defensemen or the low pairing types that cant play 20 min a game.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Cripes! What a rotten situation!
The guy has been solid and the Canucks are going to have to pay him.
Typical bad Canucks luck!

 

[jackjohnson]

I would wager we trade Boeser and Myers, Miller good chance he goes as well. PPG players are generally pretty easy to offload for profit. Miller likely is an off season, before July 1 deal though.

If Myers and Boeser are offloaded along with players like Pearson, Poolman etc. then there is no need to offload Miller since he is a PPG player, not dead weight. Miller is the reason Horvat is getting 17 goals in 20 games or so. You get rid of Miller and Horvat reverts back to his usual 60 point self albeit he is still good on his own but he would have never hit 17 goals if he was playing with Pearson and Hoglander.

Cripes! What a rotten situation!
The guy has been solid and the Canucks are going to have to pay him.
Typical bad Canucks luck!

Horvat playing with Miller is the reason why Horvat is suddenly scoring so much. Prior to this, he was playing with Pearson and Pearson sucks.

There’s Some salty fans of other teams out there

They seem so delusional its funny.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

If Myers and Boeser are offloaded along with players like Pearson, Poolman etc. then there is no need to offload Miller since he is a PPG player, not dead weight. Miller is the reason Horvat is getting 17 goals in 20 games or so. You get rid of Miller and Horvat reverts back to his usual 60 point self albeit he is still good on his own but he would have never hit 17 goals if he was playing with Pearson and Hoglander.


Horvat playing with Miller is the reason why Horvat is suddenly scoring so much. Prior to this, he was playing with Pearson and Pearson sucks.


They seem so delusional its funny.

Pearson will require us to pay in order to offload at this point. Myers will still need to be replaced. Boeser gives us Kuzmenko money. Maybe we need to trade Garland to keep Bo? would need to figure out a 3rd line without Garland to carry it.

 

[jackjohnson]

Pearson will require us to pay in order to offload at this point. Myers will still need to be replaced. Boeser gives us Kuzmenko money. Maybe we need to trade Garland to keep Bo? would need to figure out a 3rd line without Garland to carry it.

we have dries a long with pearson if nor traded, Podkolzin, and our top prospects. Plus with Lazar, Joshua, Aman solidifying the 4th, we would need only one position on 3rd line to fill.

1st line: Mikheyev-Pettersson-Kuzmenko
2nd line: Hoglander-Horvat-Miller
3rd line: Pearson-Dries-Podkolzin
4th line: Aman-Lazar-Joshua

Thats without Garland and Boeser plus we have likker coming up in 2 years. Maybe 3rd line center could be upgraded but thats not a huge problem now with emergence of Dries. Getting rid of Garland and Boeser opens up 11 to 12 million. Enough to sign Kuzy and bump Horvat salary from 6 million to 8 million. Its doable and we have extra dead weight in poolman, Pearson and Ferland.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

well on his way to being only a 60 point player?

Now you are saying he is only going to get 60 after comparing him to Kuch or Tank? Shame on you.

 

[jackjohnson]

Now you are saying he is only going to get 60 after comparing him to Kuch or Tank? Shame on you.

If you dont understand that I was mocking you then there is no point to even reply to your post? You seem to lack simple reading comprehension nevermind lack of hockey knowledge. You definitely love to troll these boards though with your asinine predictions.

 

[jackjohnson]

Cripes! What a rotten situation!
The guy has been solid and the Canucks are going to have to pay him.
Typical bad Canucks luck!

So what, they will pay him and thats a good thing because he is better than a lot of our wingers right now. Or you want him to be bad and the Canucks pay him?? Like Myers, Pearson, OEL etc.??

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

So what, they will pay him and thats a good thing because he is better than a lot of our wingers right now. Or you want him to be bad and the Canucks pay him?? Like Myers, Pearson, OEL etc.??

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

If you dont understand that I was mocking you then there is no point to even reply to your post? You seem to lack simple reading comprehension nevermind lack of hockey knowledge. You definitely love to troll these boards though with your asinine predictions.

Now what were you saying about someone not understanding sarcasm and mocking Mr. Schrute?