Raptors Discussion: v97 Raptor's 2023-2024 Season complete - 6th. worst team.

[Ciao]

What an idiot. He probably could've had an NBA contract this off-season. Hope it was worth it, bud.

He's blameless.

It was his interpreter.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Gonna be a massive Grizzlies fan for the rest of the year. They need some W’s

 

[DuklaNation]

The latest decisions made on this roster look like a GM desperately trying to win with a weak hand. Only luck will change this direction or a new outlook.

 

[Bjindaho]

The latest decisions made on this roster look like a GM desperately trying to win with a weak hand. Only luck will change this direction or a new outlook.

What decisions?

The Raps have had insane injuries and are filling holes as they run out the string.

 

[aingefan]

What decisions?

The Raps have had insane injuries and are filling holes as they run out the string.

Yup, decimated, and it might work out just fine in the end.
The team is positioned so well to head north in the standings fast with a shrewd off-season.

 

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[DuklaNation]

What decisions?

The Raps have had insane injuries and are filling holes as they run out the string.

All of them, clearly I'm speaking about going forward, they're just running out the schedule currently collecting easy revenues. People need to stop giving excuses to management and start holding them to account for the obvious steady performance decline.

 

[ULF_55]

So have the Raptors sucked enough to get a top pick, or is it not protected where they are?

 

[aingefan]

So have the Raptors sucked enough to get a top pick, or is it not protected where they are?

Raps currently have the 6th worst record.
They traded a conditional pick last year for Poetl, which is top six protected.
Pending the lotto, if the pick is <=6, the Raps keep it. If it’s =>7, it gets conveyed to the Spurs. That protection carries over for at least one more year….maybe two more after this one/
Not sure on the exact odds, they could conceivably move up, but overall it’s pretty close to 50-50 that they get it this year.
They’ve also got Indiana’s pick this year (around 17 atm) and the Pistons 2nd, which is the top pick of the second round right now.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Raps currently have the 6th worst record.
They traded a conditional pick last year for Poetl, which is top six protected.
Pending the lotto, if the pick is <=6, the Raps keep it. If it’s =>7, it gets conveyed to the Spurs. That protection carries over for at least one more year….maybe two more after this one/
Not sure on the exact odds, they could conceivably move up, but overall it’s pretty close to 50-50 that they get it this year.
They’ve also got Indiana’s pick this year (around 17 atm) and the Pistons 2nd, which is the top pick of the second round right now.

Basically we need to stay behind Memphis (currently one win behind them) and not move down in the draft lottery

Can’t believe we couldn’t get this pick top 10 protected

 

[IceColdBear]

Yup, decimated, and it might work out just fine in the end.
The team is positioned so well to head north in the standings fast with a shrewd off-season.

If we keep our pick, adding a top 6 pick to Quickley, Barrett, Barnes isn't such a bad young group to build around.

Plus we'll have Indiana's first, and that early Detroit second to add talent.

Although I think best-case scenario we are a play-in team next year. If you get a top 6 pick this year and make the play-in next year, losing that pick wouldn't be so bad.

It would really hurt to trade 7th OA for Poeltl.

 

[Suntouchable13]

The Raps have lost 13 games in a row, and still not a lock for a top 6 pick? So many terrible teams in the NBA.

 

[KapG]

The Raps have lost 13 games in a row, and still not a lock for a top 6 pick? So many terrible teams in the NBA.

It’s even sadder when you take into consideration that we are actively trying to win last couple years lmao

 

[DuklaNation]

Tolzman, scouting lead, gives very political answers regarding Raps drafting strategy. Given the horrible talent depth currently, makes you really question whether they can turn things around. If I'm in MLSE, I start considering changes.

On Zach Edey potential, I'd be shocked if they considered him, not their style. I'm a big believer that NBA up is really soft today, having a physical 7'4, 300 lb centre who knows his role can cause a lot of problems. Will be interesting to see where he goes.

 

[Bjindaho]

Tolzman, scouting lead, gives very political answers regarding Raps drafting strategy. Given the horrible talent depth currently, makes you really question whether they can turn things around. If I'm in MLSE, I start considering changes.

On Zach Edey potential, I'd be shocked if they considered him, not their style. I'm a big believer that NBA up is really soft today, having a physical 7'4, 300 lb centre who knows his role can cause a lot of problems. Will be interesting to see where he goes.

I think Edey is a great fit to have a second Jakub (if the Raps can get him in the 2nd). For the 1st, BPA all the way (Sarr at 1 would be amazing)

 

[trellaine201]

Where is Edey projected to be picked?

 

[aingefan]

Where is Edey projected to be picked?

The rankings are still bouncing all over the place.
I’ve seen him ranked anywhere from 16-30.
10 years ago, he’s prolly a lotto pick.
I’m not sure he’s a reach for the Raps at the Pacers pick, depending on what happens with their pick, but maybe I overrate the novel value of picking a Canadian kid….and maybe I’m 10 years behind the times, ha.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Where is Edey projected to be picked?

Anywhere from the lottery to not at all.

He's certainly polarizing among the "experts"

 

[Bjindaho]

Where is Edey projected to be picked?

The highest seems to be around 16, but a lot of boards have him as a 2nd rounder (due to his lack of 3 ball).

While this might limit his ability to space the court, he could still be a very effective big man.

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[Bjindaho]

The guy we traded Antawn Jamieson for and the guy we traded Kenny Anderson for.

Billups ended up being indirectly traded for Antonio Davis.

 

[DuklaNation]

Billups was a good player but I don't think HOF when I recall his career.

 

[Beantown Beatdown]

So Malachi Flynn just put up 50!! points for the Pistons. I know that team is a mess but did the Raps give up to early on him or was this once in solar eclipse kind of moment??

 

[saska sault]

So Malachi Flynn just put up 50!! points for the Pistons. I know that team is a mess but did the Raps give up to early on him or was this once in solar eclipse kind of moment??

He wasnt doing anything here. Good for him, think Nurse screwed his development and by the time Darko was here it was just time for a fresh start all around.

 

[Beantown Beatdown]

Billups was a good player but I don't think HOF when I recall his career.

His career on the whole, no. But that 2004 Pistons team isn’t the same without Billups. Can you call someone a hall of famer based on one elite playoff run? Apparently.