Value of: Unsigned RFA Jason Zucker

[Digitalbooya]

What would you offer for the speedy goal scorer?

I keep looking at all the players on Minnesota and I think he is the most likely to be traded since he needs a contract and reinforcements are near NHL ready (Greenway, Kunin).

Needs: Young centers, right wingers

Minnesota’s lines for reference purposes:

Nino-Staal-Granlund
Parise-Koivu-Coyle
Greenway-Eriksson Ek-Kunin
4th

Suter-Spurgeon
Brodin-Dumba
Seeler-Prosser

Fire away.

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[WingsOverAvs]

Moving Zucker hurts more than it helps imo....and MIN already screwed the pooch a bit when it came to who they protected in the expansion draft

 

[Digitalbooya]

Moving Zucker hurts more than it helps imo....and MIN already screwed the pooch a bit when it came to who they protected in the expansion draft

You mean who they traded so they could protect everyone they wanted?
Minnesota can’t go into next season with the same setup and expect a different result.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

You mean who they traded so they could protect everyone they wanted?
Minnesota can’t go into next season with the same setup and expect a different result.

then having the Marty Schottenheimer of NHL coaches isnt where you want to be. I think they held on to Koivu for too long. I question whether keeping Dumba was the right move as well

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

RNH
10th

For

Zucker
Coyle
Minnesota 1st 2019

 

[WingsOverAvs]

RNH
10th

For

Zucker
Coyle
Minnesota 1st 2019

I wouldnt give up a bologna sandwich for RNH. He's a marshmallow

 

[Digitalbooya]

then having the Marty Schottenheimer of NHL coaches isnt where you want to be. I think they held on to Koivu for too long. I question whether keeping Dumba was the right move as well

Keeping Dumba seems to be far and away the right choice at this moment. 50pt 23 yr old RHD don’t grow on trees. The debate as to whether or not letting Vegas choose between Brodin/Scandella or doing the original plan is a close on. Everyone was happy till Fletcher went and screwed up on the Scandella trade.

 

[Digitalbooya]

RNH
10th

For

Zucker
Coyle
Minnesota 1st 2019

Too much from Minnesota. RNH isn’t my cup of tea though and Oiler fans are pretty content with the way he produced with McDavid.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

Keeping Dumba seems to be far and away the right choice at this moment. 50pt 23 yr old RHD don’t grow on trees. The debate as to whether or not letting Vegas choose between Brodin/Scandella or doing the original plan is a close on. Everyone was happy till Fletcher went and screwed up on the Scandella trade.

Everyone is always quick to point to the score sheet but its the rest of Dumba's game that im not a fan of...but I concur that young right handed shots with offensive upside arent easy to find. And yes, the Scandella trade was an absolute albatross

 

[GuyBoucherEvilGenius]

Mark Stone + ______

For

Zucker + Brodin/Spurgeon

 

[Digitalbooya]

Everyone is always quick to point to the score sheet but its the rest of Dumba's game that im not a fan of...but I concur that young right handed shots with offensive upside arent easy to find. And yes, the Scandella trade was an absolute albatross

Dumba’s defense has gotten way better.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

Dumba’s defense has gotten way better.

yes, but it still leaves plenty to be desired imo. He had nowhere to go but up when he entered the league. Changing his jersey number wasnt accidental

 

[Digitalbooya]

yes, but it still leaves plenty to be desired imo. He had nowhere to go but up when he entered the league. Changing his jersey number wasnt accidental

How much of him do you watch?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

RNH
10th

For

Zucker
Coyle
Minnesota 1st 2019

Nope. Can’t move Nuge AND 10 and not get a top 4 RHD back. Don’t want to move Nuge at all, despite the Red Wing peanut gallery’s opinion of him.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

How much of him do you watch?

a fair bit. I order Center Ice every year so I watch 6 or so hours of hockey a night during the season

 

[A91]

RNH
10th

For

Zucker
Coyle
Minnesota 1st 2019

Atrocious for the Oilers.

 

[Bazeek]

Mark Stone + ______

For

Zucker + Brodin/Spurgeon

This one definitely has my attention, but I'm curious as to what kind of plus you had in mind.

 

[dkollidas]

What would Minnesota add to Zucker for O’Reilly. Preferably a forward. Buffalo could do something around O’Reilly & one of McCabe/Girgensons/Larsson as a bit of filler.

 

[Bazeek]

What would Minnesota add to Zucker for O’Reilly. Preferably a forward. Buffalo could do something around O’Reilly & one of McCabe/Girgensons/Larsson as a bit of filler.

I guess we could add Coyle, but I'm not sure how well that sets us up going forward...

Nino - Staal - Granlund
Parise - O'Reilly - Kunin?
Greenway? - Koivu - Anas/Rau/Mitchell?
Foligno - Eriksson-Ek - Winnik?

Maybe at that point we look at trading Staal for a RW? I don't know. I don't love it, and I suspect most Sabres fans will strongly dislike it.

 

[dkollidas]

I guess we could add Coyle, but I'm not sure how well that sets us up going forward...

Nino - Staal - Granlund
Parise - O'Reilly - Kunin?
Greenway? - Koivu - Anas/Rau/Mitchell?
Foligno - Eriksson-Ek - Winnik?

Maybe at that point we look at trading Staal for a RW? I don't know. I don't love it, and I suspect most Sabres fans will strongly dislike it.

Probably. Is there any chance Ericsson Ek could be available?

 

[Bazeek]

Probably. Is there any chance Ericsson Ek could be available?

If we're trading for O'Reilly I guess it could make sense to do Zucker + Ek. I think Ek's going to be a very good player, but O'Reilly already is one and he'll probably be one for another 7-ish years. Eventually we'd need to line up a replacement for Staal, but we have that problem regardless. Worst case maybe we just move Coyle to center full time.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

If we're trading for O'Reilly I guess it could make sense to do Zucker + Ek. I think Ek's going to be a very good player, but O'Reilly already is one and he'll probably be one for another 7-ish years. Eventually we'd need to line up a replacement for Staal, but we have that problem regardless. Worst case maybe we just move Coyle to center full time.

I call JEE Baby Zetterberg. Think he'll be a good one with some more opportunity. MIN needs to get back in Kaprizov's good graces. Not sure I like trading those 2 for ROR

 

[Bazeek]

I call JEE Baby Zetterberg. Think he'll be a good one with some more opportunity. MIN needs to get back in Kaprizov's good graces

Minnesota and Kaprizov seem fine at this point. I guess the new GM will have to ensure things stay that way, but I don't really have concerns about him coming over once his contract is up.

I like Eriksson-Ek a lot, and if there's something that really scares me off of that deal it's that I feel like he's going to take a big step next year. Selling him now feels like a mistake unless we think O'Reilly is the piece that solves our current puzzle, and I'm really not sure that he is.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

Minnesota and Kaprizov seem fine at this point. I guess the new GM will have to ensure things stay that way, but I don't really have concerns about him coming over once his contract is up.

I like Eriksson-Ek a lot, and if there's something that really scares me off of that deal it's that I feel like he's going to take a big step next year. Selling him now feels like a mistake unless we think O'Reilly is the piece that solves our current puzzle, and I'm really not sure that he is.

Having Kaprizov now would be a HUGE boost. Id be more concerned with adding some defensive upgrades vs a ROR trade though. And finding someone to take the remnants of the Scandella disaster (or buy them out). Could use the extra cap space

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I wouldnt give up a bologna sandwich for RNH. He's a marshmallow

Bologna sandwiches >> marshmallows

I concur.