GDT: UFC 219: Cyborg vs. Holm

[TerminatorBlue]

I think Ariel just said two of the judges had the first two rounds for Holly.

 

[I am the Liquor]

"I don't care about those two bs guys" Khabib is gold!

Credit to Barboza for absorbing all that punishment and not quitting. Not sure how smart that was but it was sure gutsy.

 

[Jussi]

I think Ariel just said two of the judges had the first two rounds for Holly.

Can't be, even the stats showed Cyborg with more connected strikes than Holm before the halfway. Plus Holly's face was messed up early. Though I'm not sure if the scoring counts for harder strikers more than smaller strikes.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I wish that we could watch Conor get fed to Khabib but his team will never allow that to happen.

 

[TerminatorBlue]

I wish that we could watch Conor get fed to Khabib but his team will never allow that to happen.

I doubt Dana would allow that to happen, Dana will save Conor for Zuffa boxing they plan on starting next year.

 

[Rocko604]

I doubt Dana would allow that to happen, Dana will save Conor for Zuffa boxing they plan on starting next year.

They'd be better off feeding him to Khabib then. Any ranked light middleweight would kill Conor. Unlike Floyd, they aren't going to go in there and put on a show. They're going to to knock him the f*** out.

Side note, Zuffa Boxing + Conor feels like EliteXC + Kimbo.

 

[I am the Liquor]

Connor is no boxer. He would get ruined by any ranked guy. He would be embarrassed by Khabib in the cage. I think he opts for door number three- a semi-rigged work against Mayweather.

 

[dss97]

Khabib is ridiculous, his opponents walk into the octagon knowing his exact game plan, and there isn't a thing they can do about it.

Conor will cut back down to 145 before he fights him.

 

[V13]

I doubt Dana would allow that to happen, Dana will save Conor for Zuffa boxing they plan on starting next year.

Then Conor should be stripped. Defend your belt against the bests or step aside. Enough of ducking and keeping the division hostage

I fully expect Khabib vs Ferguson for the belt while Conor take another freakshow fight or cut back to 145

 

[darko]

Khabib needs a title shot. He already should've had one. Dude is a monster.

Cyborg/Holm i had it as 50-45. Not sure how some judges had it 48-47. Sure first 2 rounds were closer than other 3 but still Cyborg's rounds.

 

[La Masse]

Khabib needs a title shot. He already should've had one. Dude is a monster.

Cyborg/Holm i had it as 50-45. Not sure how some judges had it 48-47. Sure first 2 rounds were closer than other 3 but still Cyborg's rounds.

Khabib should start fighting more then once a year and make weight consistently to start

 

[LSCII]

Khabob is going to get slept by McGregor if they ever fight. It's going to be hilarious to all the Khabob knob polishers when that happens too. Guy has fought 3 times in the last 2 years and missed weight/pulled out of a bunch of fights. He finally gets his ass in the cage and beats up on a dude that's 6-4 in his last 10 and lost to every top ranked guy he faced during that stretch, and people are now anointing him the best? Hell, I'd take Ferguson over him if they were to fight. But we know that won't happen because Khabib can't get in the cage on a regular basis.

 

[Nurmagomedov]

Khabob is going to get slept by McGregor if they ever fight. It's going to be hilarious to all the Khabob knob polishers when that happens too. Guy has fought 3 times in the last 2 years and missed weight/pulled out of a bunch of fights. He finally gets his ass in the cage and beats up on a dude that's 6-4 in his last 10 and lost to every top ranked guy he faced during that stretch, and people are now anointing him the best? Hell, I'd take Ferguson over him if they were to fight. But we know that won't happen because Khabib can't get in the cage on a regular basis.

His last fight was on the same card as McGregor's last fight, who has also incidentally fought 3 times over the past 2 years. But that McGregor knob won't polish itself now will it?

 

[LSCII]

His last fight was on the same card as McGregor's last fight, who has also incidentally fought 3 times over the past 2 years. But that McGregor knob won't polish itself now will it?

Sure, that's logical. Right up until you realize why. McGregor took time off to box after winning titles in two divisions. Khabob took time off because he missed weight twice and nearly died because he cuts 50 lbs to try and gain an advantage. Big difference, no? But hey, you go right ahead and keep on bobbing up and down. It'll make it so much better when he pulls out of his next fight...

 

[Avs_19]

I thought it was all Cyborg in that fight and it should've been 50-45. Holm had some control in the early rounds but she was just holding Cyborg against the cage and doing nothing with it. Holm is tough though and she hung in there for the entire fight so props for that.

Khabib looked amazing in one of the more dominant decisions you'll see. I think they have to go back to the Ferguson/Khabib fight now. Conor can say whatever he wants on twitter but he has given no real indication he actually wants to fight and they've gone from talking about December to February and now the summer for a potential return. Just operate as if he's retired and Ferguson is the real champ.

Calvillo looked pretty good in the first round and I'm surprised she didn't look for many takedowns after that. Close fight where neither one of them looked all that impressive and the hype train is derailed for now.

I was hoping to see the old Condit back but he just didn't have it. If he continues to fight, he should look to get back in there in the next six months or so instead of taking a long break again.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I thought it was all Cyborg in that fight and it should've been 50-45. Holm had some control in the early rounds but she was just holding Cyborg against the cage and doing nothing with it. Holm is tough though and she hung in there for the entire fight so props for that.

Khabib looked amazing in one of the more dominant decisions you'll see. I think they have to go back to the Ferguson/Khabib fight now. Conor can say whatever he wants on twitter but he has given no real indication he actually wants to fight and they've gone from talking about December to February and now the summer for a potential return. Just operate as if he's retired and Ferguson is the real champ.

McGregor already gave himself an "out" by saying that he needs to get paid. He wants no part of Khabib.

I'd love to see him get pounded on and tap to strikes just to shut his nut huggers up. Mendes worked him on the ground, Khabib will maul him.

And thats exactly why it will never happen. A beating like that will completely destroy his brand.

His fanboys are shook and I love it.

 

[V13]

Khabob is going to get slept by McGregor if they ever fight. It's going to be hilarious to all the Khabob knob polishers when that happens too. Guy has fought 3 times in the last 2 years and missed weight/pulled out of a bunch of fights. He finally gets his ass in the cage and beats up on a dude that's 6-4 in his last 10 and lost to every top ranked guy he faced during that stretch, and people are now anointing him the best? Hell, I'd take Ferguson over him if they were to fight. But we know that won't happen because Khabib can't get in the cage on a regular basis.

No

Watch the first round of Mendes vs McGregor and this is exactly what would happen to McGregor if he fought Khabib except ten fold. Yers Mac won against Mendes but that's because Mendes gassed in the 2nd (short notice and had no training camp). Not gonna happen to Khabib who has much better cardio.

Sure McGregor could catch him with a left and win but odds are that Khabib would take him down and pound on him all night long. I like watching McGregor fight but the guy is not well rounded enough to take on elite wrestlers and ground specialists which is exactly what Khabib is.

 

[La Masse]

No

Watch the first round of Mendes vs McGregor and this is exactly what would happen to McGregor if he fought Khabib except ten fold. Yers Mac won against Mendes but that's because Mendes gassed in the 2nd (short notice and had no training camp). Not gonna happen to Khabib who has much better cardio.

Sure McGregor could catch him with a left and win but odds are that Khabib would take him down and pound on him all night long. I like watching McGregor fight but the guy is not well rounded enough to take on elite wrestlers and ground specialists which is exactly what Khabib is.

I agree Khabib is just bad matchup for Conor but I think if he does indeed land the left hand Khabib would go down. Conor’s precision is unlike anything Khabib has seen before. He got tagged a couple times against Micheal Johnson and i’m pretty sure if he leaves those openings to Conor its going to be lights out for him. With that being said, Khabib gets Conor down and its pretty much over. The fight to make is once again Tony vs Khabib for the interim and then have Conor fight the winner but we will see whats going to happen

 

[Nurmagomedov]

The fight to make is once again Tony vs Khabib for the interim and then have Conor fight the winner but we will see whats going to happen

Tony already has an interim title. Having him defend an interim title against the #1 contender while the actual champion is healthy and simply refusing to fight would be utterly ridiculous. That is the fight to make if McG won't fight but it'll have to be for the actual title.

 

[Moncherry]

Khabob is going to get slept by McGregor if they ever fight. It's going to be hilarious to all the Khabob knob polishers when that happens too. Guy has fought 3 times in the last 2 years and missed weight/pulled out of a bunch of fights. He finally gets his ass in the cage and beats up on a dude that's 6-4 in his last 10 and lost to every top ranked guy he faced during that stretch, and people are now anointing him the best? Hell, I'd take Ferguson over him if they were to fight. But we know that won't happen because Khabib can't get in the cage on a regular basis.

Uh there's a very good reason that Khabib is being praised.

Of course the b.s. retrospective "so and so isn't that good" argument used to diminish a win. Barboza is easily one of the top lightweights and in some ways has better stand-up than McGregor, because he has a vastly superior kicking game. Rarely is there a performance that dominant. Your argument about how Barboza consistently loses to top-ranked fighters while making him out to be easy competition for Khabib when he's actually a top-ranked fighter himself is particularly stupid. Stretching out his record to his last TEN is pathetic, and not even accurate because the 6-4 record you claim includes Khabib. The only person Barboza had lost to recently is Ferguson. Not exactly the can you're making him out to be.

Khabib's activity the past few years is irrelevant to how good he is when he performs. And now that's he's healthy and has managed to execute a more efficient weight cut, he shouldn't have a problem fighting regularly in the foreseeable future.

Khabib, for all the supposed mediocrity in his striking, has never been hurt standing, and he's fought people with very good striking. His striking defence is incredibly underrated, and he can take a hit. Even if McGregor manages to box him up there's no guarantee that's a win. If he can be man-handled by Chad Mendes then there's no telling how badly it can go for him against a bigger, stronger fighter with better takedowns, cardio, and a stronger chin.

You would even have Ferguson winning against Khabib? Well, yeah, because Tony probably has a better chance than Conor does. But it's funny you say that as if Ferguson isn't one of the most dominant fighters in the UFC.

Your post reeks of a being Conor fanboy in denial. It's quite embarrassing.

 

[member 51464]

Conor has been fun to root for in the past. But until he decides to get in the octagon again, he can f*** right off.

 

[Nurmagomedov]

Sure, that's logical. Right up until you realize why. McGregor took time off to box after winning titles in two divisions. Khabob took time off because he missed weight twice and nearly died because he cuts 50 lbs to try and gain an advantage. Big difference, no? But hey, you go right ahead and keep on bobbing up and down. It'll make it so much better when he pulls out of his next fight...

It is hilarious how you don't see the irony in calling people knob polishers while taking on the mantle of chairman of the McGregor excuse club.

 

[Rocko604]

Khabib ate all of Edson's head kicks like they were candy. Doubt he fears Conor's left hand all that much.

 

[LSCII]

It is hilarious how you don't see the irony in calling people knob polishers while taking on the mantle of chairman of the McGregor excuse club.

I'm a fan of quite a few MMA fighters, and whether they win or lose makes no difference to me. And FWIW, I'd be a fan of Khabib's if the guy could make weight and fight on a regular basis, but he can't and he doesn't.

The whole dynamic I'm talking about here are the people who prop up the next guy to "beat" McGregor, not because they're fans of said fighter, but because they hate McGregor irrationally. That's whom I call the knob polishers. People that haven't really seen Khabib fight other than his most recent one the other day, that are now putting him up on a pedestal, when in reality it has nothing to do with Khabib.

 

[LSCII]

Khabib ate all of Edson's head kicks like they were candy. Doubt he fears Conor's left hand all that much.

McGregor doesn't really do head kicks. He kicks to the body and the lead leg. The body shots over time wear down the other fighter and helps McGregor keep them at distance for his counter punching. If he can keep Khabib at bay with solid body kicks, he will sleep him. If Khabib gets him down, it will be a lot of cumulative, and relatively minor, scoring strikes for Khabib.