Confirmed with Link: UFA D-man Carlo Colaiacovo signed (reported at $625k, 1-year/2-way deal)

Laveuglette

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They gave him Gus's number?!?!? Well now he's never going to come back.

Berube you little ****.

Gus ain't coming back, he signed in Europe. That's not really Berube's fault. So 26 is available, and if the guy wants it... why not.

625k/year for 2 years, pretty easy to take. Colaiacovo (sp? lol) can be a good player when needed, maybe this is year is the year where he doesn,t get injured, who knows. He's definitely better than any AHLer. To compensate short term for injury at a low cost, why not. A 1 yr contract would've been better, but you need the guy to sign to accept so I'm fine with it. And if injuries juin it, he's gonna be on IR anyway,
 

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Gus ain't coming back, he signed in Europe. That's not really Berube's fault. So 26 is available, and if the guy wants it... why not.

625k/year for 2 years, pretty easy to take. Colaiacovo (sp? lol) can be a good player when needed, maybe this is year is the year where he doesn,t get injured, who knows. He's definitely better than any AHLer. To compensate short term for injury at a low cost, why not. A 1 yr contract would've been better, but you need the guy to sign to accept so I'm fine with it. And if injuries juin it, he's gonna be on IR anyway,

I was joking about the number thing... but it is 100% Berube's fault. His idiotic choices are the reason why Gus is in the KHL.
 

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Surprised that a UFA that has no job until almost November, cannot be squeezed into taking a 1 year deal.

I am fine with it though. Yes he will get injured. I expect that. But adding depth is never a bad thing.

Plus, if we become a seller later on when everyone us healthy, we have a replacement for a spot.
 

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Surprised that a UFA that has no job until almost November, cannot be squeezed into taking a 1 year deal.

I am fine with it though. Yes he will get injured. I expect that. But adding depth is never a bad thing.

Plus, if we become a seller later on when everyone us healthy, we have a replacement for a spot.

Capgeek has it as a 1 year deal with higher nhl salary and less ahl salary than last year.
 

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Completely wrong, in every way. Serious question: do you get to watch the games?

Yes, and Streit gets lost a bit in the defensive zone. He's never been a great defensive defensemen, and he's losing a step in his skating.

I'm not saying he's a liability, just that with two years left on his deal at a high price, and getting on in years, he's an expensive luxury. Hextall was hamstrung this year because of no cap room, he has some young players he needs to extend, and Streit's two out years are a real risk.

Timonen slipped a notch at 35, and another at 38, he started well above Streit but was no longer playing at a high level at 38. Streit turns 37 in December, there's a good bet he'll slip a notch next year, do you want to pay almost $6M to a 3rd pairing defenseman to primarily play on the PP?
 

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Streit will still be second pairing quality next season.

He hasn't looked too bad on the first pairing.
 

bennysflyers16

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Streit will still be second pairing quality next season.

He hasn't looked too bad on the first pairing.

And he started later and his style should allow him to be better later in years, hopefully.

I have been quite happy with him so far.
 

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Streit's fine. He's far from a luxury at this point, he's a damned necessity.

Streit may be older but he hasn't played as long in the NHL, he started in the NHL in 2006. Granted he played overseas but that is completely different from the NHL's style of play.
 

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I still remember how people where complaining about the contract (term, mostly) when Streit was signed but where would we be now without him?

He plays a non physical style based on good stick work and positioning. I can absolutely imagine him still being effective in a limited role in his early fourties.
 

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Yes, and Streit gets lost a bit in the defensive zone. He's never been a great defensive defensemen, and he's losing a step in his skating.

I'm not saying he's a liability, just that with two years left on his deal at a high price, and getting on in years, he's an expensive luxury. Hextall was hamstrung this year because of no cap room, he has some young players he needs to extend, and Streit's two out years are a real risk.

Timonen slipped a notch at 35, and another at 38, he started well above Streit but was no longer playing at a high level at 38. Streit turns 37 in December, there's a good bet he'll slip a notch next year, do you want to pay almost $6M to a 3rd pairing defenseman to primarily play on the PP?

He's getting long in the tooth, he turns 37 this season, and that's old, two more years is asking a lot from him, and is a defensive liability, other than the PP, he's really not a good defenseman anymore. Streit is starting to slow down and he's not very physical to start with. With a $5.25M cap hit, he's a luxury after this season.

When Ghost is ready, he'll be one of the defensemen on the power play, down the road, Morin or Sanheim will be the other.

If you can get rid of Streit, Grossman, Vinnie and Umberger, you'll free up $17.8M and have a lot younger roster.

Yup.
 

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Do the rules prohibit teams from sending a player down after he gets hurt? Probably a dumb question but I never thought about it before.
 

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Kimmo played a ton of PK which are hard minutes that Streit is sheltered from so he hasn't had the same wear and tear.
 

deadhead

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None of that changes the fact that as players age, they lose speed and quickness. Streit depends on his skating more than most defensemen because he's not physical nor that big, so if he loses a "stride" (what is the hockey equivalent of losing a step?) he's in trouble.

He's top notch on the power play, but pretty average otherwise, he's not bad (not an absolute liability), he's just nothing special outside the PP, he can't skate well enough to attack the offensive zone, he can't move people in the defensive zone, etc. He's decent at everything, but special at nothing but shooting from the point.

Again, the issue is that he counts almost $6M against the cap (i.e. a liability relative to his cap hit), as much as people knock Grossman, he's reasonably paid for his role, same with Schenn. Until age 38, you could claim Timonen was a legitimate #1/#2 D-man, you can't make that claim for Streit.

If they didn't have the Pronger overhang, the Vinnie fiasco, the Umberger/Hartnell hangover, the McDonald overpay, you could carry an overpaid Streit for a couple years without much angst, but . . .
 

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I see zero problem with Streit's contract as of now & don't envision a Vinny/Umberger type of situation. The cap's going up & cheaper contracts are on the horizon with prospects making the jump.
 

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None of that changes the fact that as players age, they lose speed and quickness. Streit depends on his skating more than most defensemen because he's not physical nor that big, so if he loses a "stride" (what is the hockey equivalent of losing a step?) he's in trouble.

He's top notch on the power play, but pretty average otherwise, he's not bad (not an absolute liability), he's just nothing special outside the PP, he can't skate well enough to attack the offensive zone, he can't move people in the defensive zone, etc. He's decent at everything, but special at nothing but shooting from the point.

Again, the issue is that he counts almost $6M against the cap (i.e. a liability relative to his cap hit), as much as people knock Grossman, he's reasonably paid for his role, same with Schenn. Until age 38, you could claim Timonen was a legitimate #1/#2 D-man, you can't make that claim for Streit.

If they didn't have the Pronger overhang, the Vinnie fiasco, the Umberger/Hartnell hangover, the McDonald overpay, you could carry an overpaid Streit for a couple years without much angst, but . . .

Reasonably paid? In a salary capped NHL spending >3.5M on your #4/#5 is not a wise decision... especially when those guys can barely skate and play a one dimensional game.

As much as I respect Timonen he definitely wouldn't have been a first pairing D on most playoffs teams in recent years. He was asked to play way over his head and through injury because of the Flyers inability to groom a replacement. He was basically a 38 year old, special team specialist playing the even strength minutes of a #4 last year.
 

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None of that changes the fact that as players age, they lose speed and quickness. Streit depends on his skating more than most defensemen because he's not physical nor that big, so if he loses a "stride" (what is the hockey equivalent of losing a step?) he's in trouble.

He's top notch on the power play, but pretty average otherwise, he's not bad (not an absolute liability), he's just nothing special outside the PP, he can't skate well enough to attack the offensive zone, he can't move people in the defensive zone, etc. He's decent at everything, but special at nothing but shooting from the point.

Again, the issue is that he counts almost $6M against the cap (i.e. a liability relative to his cap hit), as much as people knock Grossman, he's reasonably paid for his role, same with Schenn. Until age 38, you could claim Timonen was a legitimate #1/#2 D-man, you can't make that claim for Streit.

If they didn't have the Pronger overhang, the Vinnie fiasco, the Umberger/Hartnell hangover, the McDonald overpay, you could carry an overpaid Streit for a couple years without much angst, but . . .

So, if I'm reading this correctly, Grossmann and Schenn are worth their cap hits but Streit isn't?















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