U-17's 2021 Capital City Challenge

[LDN]

Tournament starts today. Canada White vs. Canada's National Women's Team at Noon and Canada Red vs. Canada Black at 7PM.

where can it be watched?

 

[SarniaStingFan]

where can it be watched?

Here's the link: 2021 CCC: NWT vs. CANW (Preliminary)

 

[Box Score Watcher]

Team white beats the womens national team 7-3 in the first matchup. That score is actually flattering in my opinion. Seems like team white really let up in the third period.

 

[Box Score Watcher]

I feel like this format will not be used again. It really is unfair to the women's national team. Best case scenario, it gives them a bit of a spark somehow for when they face the US women's team.

 

[foghorn]

its crazy does no good for Womens team and nothing for U17's clearly see theyre not skating full effort.

Stats 2 games for women
outscored 14-3 outshot 91-41 and play strongest team in black tonight went 0-5 vs tier 2 club teams

Would it help them to play USports allstar teams like Canada WJ teams do?? i know they'd win but closer competition??

 

[wings5]

its crazy does no good for Womens team and nothing for U17's clearly see theyre not skating full effort.

Stats 2 games for women
outscored 14-3 outshot 91-41 and play strongest team in black tonight went 0-5 vs tier 2 club teams

Would it help them to play USports allstar teams like Canada WJ teams do?? i know they'd win but closer competition??

For u-17s playing a decent USports team would be more than enough of a challenge. USports all starts would obviously be too much if the u20 NT have a hard time with them.

 

[Box Score Watcher]

its crazy does no good for Womens team and nothing for U17's clearly see theyre not skating full effort.

Stats 2 games for women
outscored 14-3 outshot 91-41 and play strongest team in black tonight went 0-5 vs tier 2 club teams

Would it help them to play USports allstar teams like Canada WJ teams do?? i know they'd win but closer competition??

Team black currently outshooting them 42-7 through 2 periods. It’s not pretty watch

 

[wetcoast]

Team black currently outshooting them 42-7 through 2 periods. It’s not pretty watch

Sounds like they are doing better than china would against Canada in the Olympics though.

Just saying and yes I think they need to be playing other teams not the best of the U-17s at this point.

 

[Snippit]

Well they gave Team Canada Black quite a scare. I watched some of the third: the ladies had plenty of chances to win.

They've definitely come a long way from losing to midget teams.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Well they gave Team Canada Black quite a scare. I watched some of the third: the ladies had plenty of chances to win.

They've definitely come a long way from losing to midget teams.

The final shots were 50-20. But yeah, their goalie played really well


Going into the bronze game, the Women's National Team has played 13 periods and been outshot in 12 of them, for a total of 197-76.

G1 vs CAN White: outshot 48-19
P1: got outshot 10-5
P2: got outshot 22-3
P3: got outshot 16-11

G2 vs CAN Red: outshot 43-22
P1: got outshot 19-5
P2: outshot 11-9
P3: got outshot 15-6

G3 vs CAN Black: outshot 56-15
P1: got outshot 19-5
P2: got outshot 22-2
P3: got outshot 15-8

G4 vs CAN Black: outshot 50-20
P1: got outshot 18-6
P2: got outshot 12-7
P3: got outshot 19-7
P4: got outshot 1-0

Outscored 22-7 in those games.

 

[Buttsy]

its crazy does no good for Womens team and nothing for U17's clearly see theyre not skating full effort.

It's so hard though for the women to get a competitive game other then playing the US Team all the time? Not sure what exactly the answer is but I do appreciate the challenge both Canada and the US face in the women's game.

 

[Generalsupdates]

It's so hard though for the women to get a competitive game other then playing the US Team all the time? Not sure what exactly the answer is but I do appreciate the challenge both Canada and the US face in the women's game.

Going into the tournament I thought it was a good idea. But clearly it is not. I'm shocked at how the women's team has been absolutely dominated by the U17s in every single game. I thought they'd at least play close

 

[foghorn]

For u-17s playing a decent USports team would be more than enough of a challenge. USports all starts would obviously be too much if the u20 NT have a hard time with them.

i meant the ladies

 

[foghorn]

Going into the tournament I thought it was a good idea. But clearly it is not. I'm shocked at how the women's team has been absolutely dominated by the U17s in every single game. I thought they'd at least play close

yeah it wasnt even close perhaps they should stick to decent u16 club teams like theyve done in the past which were competitive games ive heard in and around Calgary because these games dont help them getting waxed or the u17's going half throttle

 

[Box Score Watcher]

yeah it wasnt even close perhaps they should stick to decent u16 club teams like theyve done in the past which were competitive games ive heard in and around Calgary because these games dont help them getting waxed or the u17's going half throttle

If the home base for the womens team is Calgary, is it possible for them to join a boys U-16 league there? Would be suitable competition and would given them a significant amount of games to practice for international competitions, without being too overbearing

 

[Snippit]

Going into the tournament I thought it was a good idea. But clearly it is not. I'm shocked at how the women's team has been absolutely dominated by the U17s in every single game. I thought they'd at least play close

I'm the opposite, they exceeded my expectations. They typically play triple A midget teams pretty close and have a mixed record against them. These are the best U17 players in the country and they didn't get totally blown out of the arena and pushed a game to OT. I was imagining regular double digit scorelines.

Like I said, I think the WNT has improved in the last 5-10 years considerably.

 

[Generalsupdates]

I'm the opposite, they exceeded my expectations. They typically play triple A midget teams pretty close and have a mixed record against them. These are the best U17 players in the country and they didn't get totally blown out of the arena and pushed a game to OT. I was imagining regular double digit scorelines.

Like I said, I think the WNT has improved in the last 5-10 years considerably.

Getting outshot a combined 245-90 and getting outscored a combined 28-8 is better than you expected? If so that's really embarrassing. I would not have expected the best women in the country to be considerably worse than the best 16 year old boys in the country. I was obviously wrong

 

[Snippit]

Getting outshot a combined 245-90 and getting outscored a combined 28-8 is better than you expected? If so that's really embarrassing. I would not have expected the best women in the country to be considerably worse than the best 16 year old boys in the country. I was obviously wrong

Yes, based on their mediocre results against triple A midget teams and Junior A sides it was obvious to most that they were going to be considerably overmatched. Going from that level of competition to playing a bunch of CHL first rounders and future NHLers is a steep jump.

 

[Box Score Watcher]

I'm the opposite, they exceeded my expectations. They typically play triple A midget teams pretty close and have a mixed record against them. These are the best U17 players in the country and they didn't get totally blown out of the arena and pushed a game to OT. I was imagining regular double digit scorelines.

Like I said, I think the WNT has improved in the last 5-10 years considerably.

This is my thoughts as well. Watching the games, I do think some of the scores were actually flattering and had the under 17’s kept their foot on the gas, the final scores could have been very very lopsided. It just wasn’t ever going to be a tournament where the women’s national team was going to be able to compete unfortunately.

 

[LDN]

This is my thoughts as well. Watching the games, I do think some of the scores were actually flattering and had the under 17’s kept their foot on the gas, the final scores could have been very very lopsided. It just wasn’t ever going to be a tournament where the women’s national team was going to be able to compete unfortunately.

Still a good test and a good way for the U-17 guys to show skill games without the hitting

 

[Savard18]

Getting outshot a combined 245-90 and getting outscored a combined 28-8 is better than you expected? If so that's really embarrassing. I would not have expected the best women in the country to be considerably worse than the best 16 year old boys in the country. I was obviously wrong

I only watch 2 womens teams play but they are some of my favorite games to watch. To see the Canadian ladies to perform the way I would expect a non-US/Canadian team to play was a surprise.

 

[Savard18]

Still a good test and a good way for the U-17 guys to show skill games without the hitting

The OHL kids are basically playing by women’s hockey rules now anyways.

 

[LDN]

The OHL kids are basically playing by women’s hockey rules now anyways.

now now

 

[Savard18]

now now

It’s a lot closer to Women’s hockey than say 1995 era NHL. The USA-Canada women’s games are about as gritty as a lot of OHL games I watch. Which isn’t ALL bad but there’s certainly aspects of the changes I don’t like or approve of.

 

[Garyboy]

It's so hard though for the women to get a competitive game other then playing the US Team all the time? Not sure what exactly the answer is but I do appreciate the challenge both Canada and the US face in the women's game.

Having them play men’s league teams would be a good challenge for them.