Player Discussion Tyler Motte: Quick, Closes Gaps. Tenacious, Shutdown Player. 5th in NHL in SH TOI (F); 43rd in PP GA

Askel

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Like, if you took the two players, swap teams, but have them perform the exact same as they have this season, then Motte would have less GA. I defy you to disagree with that statement given how wildly opposite the D-cores of Winnipeg and Vancouver are built.

Also, I defy you to watch video of every single goal against that Motte has been on the ice for and tell me he's the one costing this team. I suspect you'll find what I find -- his skillset makes him more indispensable than guys like Schaller, Granlund, Eriksson, Gaunce etc.
First of I going to say this, Motte had his best game of the season today.

Second if Motte was stopping any of the bleeding of goals against it would show up in the stats somewhere, he is bleeding shots, chances and goals against. Yes together with his teammatesits not just Motte´s fault, but he is not making an positive impact on a game to game basis. Tanev has made an elite team as a 4th liner, Motte couldn't make the Columbus Bluejackets.
 

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With his 7th point in his 27th game, Motte is officially having a "career year".

His next best would be 2016/2017 where he scored his 7th point in his 28th game.
 
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Thought Tyler Motte's play might deserve a discussion. Last trade deadline these Boards mostly had a 'two-thumbs down' consensus on trading Vanek to the Jackets and only getting Motte back.

But so far this year the guy has been a revelation. Blazing speed and a mainstay on the penalty kill. And Green has him out there in the last minute of most close games now. Last night made the key play along the all to get the puck to Virtanen for the winner.

And Motte is still only 23. Does this qualify as one of Jimbo's best deals to date?
 

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It's hard to get too hyped over his play, but he's tenacious and that's good to have if you want your team's identity to be built around hard work.

The PK was excellent early in the season and he seemed to be playing a role in that. The way the PK fell off when Sutter and Beagle went down make me think he wasn't the straw stirring the drink.

All in all it would still have been nice to get something more significant for Vanek, but I think that also has something to do with Vanek's reputation vs it being all on Benning.
 
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He was good the first 3-4 games, the worst player on the team for the next 20, and has been good again for the last 5 games.

He has been good on the PK. But he also has 1 goal on a goalie as we approach the halfway point of the season.
 
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He was good the first 3-4 games, the worst player on the team for the next 20, and has been good again for the last 5 games.
I wouldn't go that far when there have been Leipsic, Eriksson, Schaller and Granlund for forwards putting their name in the hat during all those games. Underwhelming absolutely, but worst player to me is a bit of a stretch. Let's not forget about the atrocious play of Gudbrandson, Pouliot and MDZ over that span as well.
 

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I look forward to the day that players like Motte are actually relegated to our farm team where they belong and we no longer have to talk about them.
 

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Thought Tyler Motte's play might deserve a discussion. Last trade deadline these Boards mostly had a 'two-thumbs down' consensus on trading Vanek to the Jackets and only getting Motte back.

But so far this year the guy has been a revelation. Blazing speed and a mainstay on the penalty kill. And Green has him out there in the last minute of most close games now. Last night made the key play along the all to get the puck to Virtanen for the winner.

And Motte is still only 23. Does this qualify as one of Jimbo's best deals to date?
it's a pretty small impact move and the draft picks at all cost Nancy's will just look at it as another failure.

Never had a problem with this deal. He's been a nice find and is a good energy player tailor made for the modern game. a lot of people were wrong in assessing him...he has some utility
 
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Thought Tyler Motte's play might deserve a discussion. Last trade deadline these Boards mostly had a 'two-thumbs down' consensus on trading Vanek to the Jackets and only getting Motte back.

But so far this year the guy has been a revelation. Blazing speed and a mainstay on the penalty kill. And Green has him out there in the last minute of most close games now. Last night made the key play along the all to get the puck to Virtanen for the winner.

And Motte is still only 23. Does this qualify as one of Jimbo's best deals to date?

Umm...it might be. But that's more of an indictment of Benning than anything.

Motte is an NHL player. That's about all you can say.

He stands out because he hustles and people remember the beginning of the year when he was flying. There's some recency bias toward the last couple of good games. In between, he was largely invisible and a shot share drag.

He's a guy you can put on the PK and your 4th line and probably not get exposed. Not much more.
 

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Thought Tyler Motte's play might deserve a discussion. Last trade deadline these Boards mostly had a 'two-thumbs down' consensus on trading Vanek to the Jackets and only getting Motte back.

But so far this year the guy has been a revelation. Blazing speed and a mainstay on the penalty kill. And Green has him out there in the last minute of most close games now. Last night made the key play along the all to get the puck to Virtanen for the winner.

And Motte is still only 23. Does this qualify as one of Jimbo's best deals to date?

If acquiring Motte is one of your best deals over 5 years, you are probably a terrible NHL GM.
 

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He seems to go through decent 4-5 game stretches of being a good checking player, this recent run has been one of those for him. But he vast majority of his play is just him hustling and skating hard, which can trick people into thinking he's better than he actually is.

Skating hard and hustling is great and all but at some point you have to ask what they're actually accomplishing, and in Motte's case, the answer is not much. While he's been OK on the penalty kill, he's been on the worst Canucks forwards at supressing goals at even strength and only has scored 1 goal on a goalie through 31 games.

He's a dime a dozen tweener, he should probably be in the AHL but this team's depth is so piss poor that after a couple bodies go down we're left with Motte playing 16+ minutes a game.
 
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I've got no problems with Motte. I don't want to trade him for the sake of making a trade.

He is a 4th line/13th forward though, so I suspect even with the sell job being done here, we won't get back what his loss would mean for our team.
 

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I'm all for trying to get Motte as many ENGs as possible to see if we can dupe another team to giving up a pick for him at the deadline.
 

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I'm all for trying to get Motte as many ENGs as possible to see if we can dupe another team to giving up a pick for him at the deadline.

I think he’s a keeper; plays the role he’s given perfectly. Young, quick, cheap, tenacious and reliable.
 

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it's a pretty small impact move and the draft picks at all cost Nancy's will just look at it as another failure.

Never had a problem with this deal. He's been a nice find and is a good energy player tailor made for the modern game. a lot of people were wrong in assessing him...he has some utility

Utility sure but zero value. Highly replaceable
 

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Contending teams need guys like Motte in their bottom 6. He could become a Jannik Hansen type player for us if he continues to develop.
 

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I think he’s a keeper; plays the role he’s given perfectly. Young, quick, cheap, tenacious and reliable.

Honestly the role he plays is that we acknowledge that he will be replaced on the roster and he's there to fill space and kill time until we have good enough players to push him off the roster.
 

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Contending teams need guys like Motte in their bottom 6. He could become a Jannik Hansen type player for us if he continues to develop.

I don't see Motte to Hansen as an apt comparison at all. Hansen was a way, way better NHL player than Motte, and it isn't close.
 

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He seems to go through decent 4-5 game stretches of being a good checking player, this recent run has been one of those for him. But he vast majority of his play is just him hustling and skating hard, which can trick people into thinking he's better than he actually is.

Skating hard and hustling is great and all but at some point you have to ask what they're actually accomplishing, and in Motte's case, the answer is not much. While he's been OK on the penalty kill, he's been on the worst Canucks forwards at supressing goals at even strength and only has scored 1 goal on a goalie through 31 games.

He's a dime a dozen tweener, he should probably be in the AHL but this team's depth is so piss poor that after a couple bodies go down we're left with Motte playing 16+ minutes a game.

He’s basically a 13th forward/PK specialist who looks ok on a 4th line playing 8-10 minutes/game.

As soon as he was played up the lineup, he became a collossal liability - both because he couldn’t maintain his energy levels at 15 minutes/game (see Dorsett, Derek) and because he is an offensive black hole.

Tyler Bouck is a lot better comparable than Jannik Hansen.
 
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