Post-Game Talk: Tue. Oct 25th 2016 | Sabres 3 @ Flyers 4 (2-0 shootout)

[Hurricane28]

There's no bias, its just incompetency and inconsistency

 

[Les Averman]

There's no bias, its just incompetency and inconsistency

agreed

 

[Bob Clarke Fan Club]

There's no bias, its just incompetency and inconsistency

Wholeheartedly disagree. Been watching for nearly 37 years, Sooner or later it should've leveled out. I mean, I can't prove there is and you can't prove there isn't so...

 

[smokey]

Cousins has not much better than VV or Bellemare so far. None of them are good enough offensively at this level and if Cousins doesn't produce he really has no role. He doesn't PK, isn't good on the PP, not great defensively. He hasn't been completely awful or hurting the team or anything, but really the only guys I'd be against removing from the bottom 6 would be Read and Lyubimov. Everyone else is super replaceable. Weise gets a pass so far too, I think he's gonna improve as the year goes on and hopefully his linemates improve. A 3rd line of Read-Raffl-Weise would probably be pretty good. I know Raffl doesn't play a lot of C but he has all the attributes to do so.

Shouldn't forget Gordon, although it's hard not to since he only plays random minutes. His career fo% is good for a bottom 6, heck any C for that matter, and I'm sure the 52%+ from this season will slowly rise closer to his career numbers, cause it's a talent that rarely, if ever, deteriorates with age (VV on the other hand is winning way more than his career numbers suggest). Last night Gordon won just about every face-off he took (ok, so he only had like 10 shifts all night). Yes, lost his guy on the pk that led to Buffalo's second of the night, but won the draw just prior to that, none the less. Anyway, point here is, he's useful if only for this one trait, and if the 4th line keeps playing 5-8 mins + a few on the pk a night, there's no reason he shouldn't have a place on the team, although he's no Read or Lyubs. The rest though, totally replaceable.

 

[Ryker]

lol whatever you say. Yes, no hearing per a Sabres beat.

Haha, that's what everyone but a select few Flyers fan are saying, but of course the entire world that has nothing to win by going against the Flyers is wrong and not you.

There's no bias, its just incompetency and inconsistency

Well, there you go.

 

[Rebels57]

There is no bias, I can't believe how skewed your perception is.

Yes, there is.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Gordon is at 52%, Giroux is at 51%. Decent, but not great. Gordon was at 57% last yera.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The hit was borderline, warranted a penalty, nothing more

I think most of us agree on that. it is just that the DOPeS continues to be inconsistent and mind blowing stupid with their decisions and how they draw up there conclusions on what is and what is not suspension worthy.
That is what I am going to call them from now on DOPeS because that is what they are.

 

[Random Forest]

Yes, there is.

Maybe there really is a bias here... maybe it's yours?

I don't buy the idea that the NHL conspires against the Flyers at all.

 

[bennysflyers16]

The Rinaldo hit on Couts checked off all the boxes and was on a good player by one of the biggest POS in hockey, no suspension there raised my eyebrows.

Gudas was a collection of hits so I get that, still shocked it was 6 though.
There are MANY worse hits than Weise's as well that go un punished. The difference between all these hits and Weise s sure as heck shouldnt be 3 games.

 

[TCTC]

I don't think they're biased. I think they're just lazy. They saw blood on Holzer, so they thought "That looks bad, that's a suspension."
They saw Voracek finishing the game and even score in the shootout, so they thought "He kept playing, it can't be that bad."

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Honestly, at this point it's impossible to discern any rhyme or reason to any of the disciplinary actions. It's hard to believe but it's actually gotten worse from a few years ago.

I'm still completely outraged that Rinaldo got off for what he did last year.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I missed the game. Looks like PP success. Any adjustment?

Hellllooooo? Help

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Hellllooooo? Help

Goals instead of no goals.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Hellllooooo? Help

I watched the first two periods and the PP looked like ****. Don't know if they got puck luck or just did something different in the 3rd.

 

[sabremike]

From what I saw the hit last night was definitely a penalty but not suspension worthy. That said if the league dropped the hammer on him I wouldn't argue with it. It was an incredibly stupid penalty to take and it basically cost us the game. Flyers PP dished out the real (and best) punishment.

 

[Tripod]

Hellllooooo? Help

Streit had 3 PP points....nuff said.

 

[Curufinwe]

Hellllooooo?

Is it me you're looking for?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Well congrats to Mr. Neck

 

[BritainStix]

Personally I thought the hit was clean as a whistle. I can understand the annoyance at the difference in punishment between Weise and Kulikov though.

 

[Beef Invictus]

And Gudas vs Rinaldo. And Schenn vs Wilson's general career.

 

[Rebels57]

Maybe there really is a bias here... maybe it's yours?

I don't buy the idea that the NHL conspires against the Flyers at all.

No, it's not mine.

 

[BernieParent]

From what I saw the hit last night was definitely a penalty but not suspension worthy. That said if the league dropped the hammer on him I wouldn't argue with it. It was an incredibly stupid penalty to take and it basically cost us the game. Flyers PP dished out the real (and best) punishment.

Thanks for your input. In the not too distant past, we all would have considered it a great check. Times have changed and, as I am sure you have read here, precedents have been set.

 

[BernieParent]

For me the smoking gun is the helmet. It nearly hit the scoreboard. Physics says that the helmet was hit, and by extension there was significant force to the head.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

For me the smoking gun is the helmet. It nearly hit the scoreboard. Physics says that the helmet was hit, and by extension there was significant force to the head.

unless said player is wearing OnB, in which case, no suspension...