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Heh
If you add a 1st + kapanen/nylander to gardiner then maybe Winnipeg would look your direction
Speculation: Trouba
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If you add a 1st + kapanen/nylander to gardiner then maybe Winnipeg would look your direction
Channelcat
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Nobody wants Jake Gardiner. Not sure how long it'll be before that sinks in.
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Curufinwe
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The Flyers will probably overpay for him now they have a new GM with a mandate to go wild.
joepeps
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Cap will go up by 4 mil they said.
So that is 27.2 mil plus Hortons LTIR of 5.3
That is 32.5 in cap space next year to sign 11 players
11 to Matthews
9 to Marner
3 to kappy
Thats 23 mil and 9.5 Mil left in cap space to sign 8 players to league min or even if they want a dman for 4-6 mil.
Then the following year. Patty M and his 6.5 is off plus the cap going up by another 3-5 mil. They should be fine.
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Basically until he is off the leafs
I doubt from buffalos standpoint they would sacrifice picks and prospects for a guy who will be available 2 months later for free .
That would be amazingly dumb to trade for a guy who will hit free agency .
Winnipeg has to make a decision sign him or trade with a non playoff team for someone who you can make a serious run.
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I feel like Matthews will get 12-13, Marner 9.5 - 10.5, and kappy prob looks at minimum rakells contract(per year at least)…. and basically here you claim the cap will go up by 4 and then another 3-5 mil... I assume players will take this into consideration and take a lil more money now.
joepeps
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So Matthews isn't better than McDavid or anyone else according to HFBoard and Marner isn't either but when it comes to contracts they will get more than anyone in the league but the other players will sign for less.
Marner is amazing, he's not better than Kucherov and Marner isn't a scorer he's a play maker. He shouldn't get more than 8-9 MAX
The cap is only rising estimated 3.5 million until it's finalized don't hold your breathe things change. Also players now are demanding more money so when you look at trying to win the cup and being competitive handing out huge contracts to 6 to 9 guys hurts .
You can think what you want be it's been well documented Toronto will have cap issues .
If your paying 5 or 6 guys 10 million plus based on a 82 million cap that doesn't leave much room for role players , bonuses also are included , so if Toronto wins the cup you can kiss next year's plan good bye with the bonuses being part of their cap.
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Usually when signing contracts players/teams don't look to hfboards
Matthews is the go to guy, for the biggest team in the NHL.... ya I wont be shocked if Matthews makes more than McDavid... doesn't make him better. Lot of players make more money than rakell.
Marner could put up 100+ points this year and be in the running for Art ross at seasons end... if he wants 9.5-10.5 range hell get it.
joepeps
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What are you talking about? If they win the cup bonus's for winning the cup?
The leafs already have lots of cap space this year for the Matthews Marner and others bonus.
Don't listen to what media says. They like to stir shit and agents have agents to tell them top say this stuff to increase prices.
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No. Neither gets much PP time as long as the Jets have Buff. At 5v5 Trouba is MUCH better defensively than Gardinenr and Trouba produces more on the offensive side of things even thought that’s Gardienrs specialty.
By all accounts Gardiner will be looking for $7+ million this offseason. At those prices the Jets are much better off paying Trouba the $8+ million he’s looking for.
Still no, for the same reasons as Gardiner. Neither would get PP time in Winnipeg, Trouba is a better offensive player 5v5 and he’s excellent defensively while Rielly is a lability in his own zone.
FYI D-man 5v5 P/60 min played since the start of the 2016/2017 season
Trouba 1.31 P/60 (#2in the NHL)
Gardiner 1.09 P/60 (13 in the NHL)
Rielly 1.05 P/60 (17 in the NHL)
Toronto has 8M available to pick up a rental to try and make a run at the cup. The Jets will need Trouba for their playoff run but I think Parayko would be a nice pick up for the Leafs but the only problem is that Dubas then has to lose some bodies in the off-season to make everyone fit under the cap next year.
joepeps
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LOL exactly so what people say on here is irrelevant.
Marner isn't getting more than Kucherov.
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Rielly for Trouba is closer than Gardiner for Trouba.
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Well see I think he will personally, I think you are under selling on marner a bit here.
Maukkis
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In this thread, we have:
- awful offers (Gardiner, meh futures)
- lowballs (Montour)
- Leafs talk (as usual)
Step your game up. You're trading for a 1D. It is going to hurt.
- awful offers (Gardiner, meh futures)
- lowballs (Montour)
- Leafs talk (as usual)
Step your game up. You're trading for a 1D. It is going to hurt.
It's well documented every team that has won the cup has to shed salaries and players in the OFF season just to get cap compliant . Tavares and Matthews will both be wanting to get their payday and should they win the cup their asking price will increase.
It's clear you have no understanding as to what happens when a team wins the cup. I'm a Chicago fan we won 3 cups and yes they get bonuses for winning it as well as any awards . Why do you think Chicago has had to shed salaries , picks , youth , and pick up rentals ? It's because in order to win you have to make decisions as to who is your true core and the rest go bye bye .
GaryPoppins
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That's my whole point if Toronto doesn't use it's full cap they can use that money to cover bonuses and not be penalized next year.
Toronto's best bet would be a rental but then what do they have to give up ? That's the problem to is in order to go for it teams will fleece Toronto and Toronto if they feel or want a certain player will pay a higher price.
