Value of: Trouba/Morrissey

[tntkid]

Morrissey is a stud.

He stays here.

 

[jgimp]

What?? Bjugstad and a 1st doesn't get you close to Byfuglien

Ok, Barkov then lol

 

[north49er]

Nobodies giving up 4 1st round picks all for the honour of overpaying Trouba

He's looked out of sorts to date in the playoffs. Turning into a turn over machine.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

Trouba + Dano to LA for ?

 

[DRW204]

Ya I can understand the hesitation to unload him. Chevy will have become a math wiz to make the cap work no? With all those RFAs, you do have some hefty UFA money coming off the books so Enstrom and Stastny may be casualties?

If Buff was made available, what's his value from FLA?

Buff is simply not available. it would be damn near impossible for the Jets to replace the overall player and package that Buff brings. If you have a cheaper/younger Buff, then it would be him lol.

However, if you want a good offensive-dman Myers might be available due to cap reasons. Isn't as good physically or defensively as Buff but i think he can put up over 0.5 PPG on another team.

Enstrom likely wont be re-signed or will take a super cheap contract. No clue about Stastny, likely not re-signed

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Bjugstad and 2018 1st??? May be too much though. We don’t Have to get rid of him so would be an overpay

If that was the price, I think Tallon would pull the trigger and send his one adopted son to WPG and bring his other adopted son to FLA. I'd feel guilty saying yes to this. Buff is worth more.

I'd like to keep Bjugstad and offer up other assets instead.

2019 1st + 2018 2nd (ARI pick we own) + Malgin/Mascherin + Pysyk

For

Buff = 1st + 2nd + Pysyk
Comrie = Mascherin/Malgin

Maybe add a small sweetener but feel it's close with that 2nd being one of the best picks in that round to balance out the 1st being in 2019?
Reasoning would be Trouba becomes your #1RD, re-sign Myers as #2RD and Pysyk as your #3RD. Feel your offense up front would help ease the blow of losing Buff.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Buff is simply not available. it would be damn near impossible for the Jets to replace the overall player and package that Buff brings. If you have a cheaper/younger Buff, then it would be him lol.

However, if you want a good offensive-dman Myers might be available due to cap reasons. Isn't as good physically or defensively as Buff but i think he can put up over 0.5 PPG on another team.

Enstrom likely wont be re-signed or will take a super cheap contract. No clue about Stastny, likely not re-signed

Enstrom is better defensively than Myers obviously? Can he play both sides or preferably LD? How's his skating? What type of contract do you think he'd be looking for?

 

[DRW204]

Enstrom is better defensively than Myers obviously? Can he play both sides or preferably LD? How's his skating? What type of contract do you think he'd be looking for?

TBH i dont think Enstrom signs with another team other than the Jets. I think he goes back home to Sweden unless he signs a 1 year deal for cheap. I am not the biggest Enstrom fan, he is decent positionally and with his stick defensively and a good pass out the zone. However, he gets supremely overwhelmed physically and the offense has dried up. There are other similarly sized Dman as him that are much stronger than he is. He is an oft-injured bottom pairing LHD at this point.

 

[THE Green Man]

I don't see it being a problem for the Jets to have to move someone out for next year, as long as the cap does indeed go up to 80-82M. Even going on the high end that all three of Hele, Trouba and Morrisey get 7M cap hits each, they would have about 4M wiggle room left using 80M as the bar.

Even if there is a cap casualty, I feel like it would be Mason in goal instead. Say trading him and Petan/mid pick to Vancouver for Nilsson. Would save 1.6M in cap hit.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Just over 7x7 would do it I think
7x7=49mil /5 yrs = 9.8mil is right at the line for 4/1sts
??

Their GM isn't stupid, he would restructure the offer to avoid getting up over 9.8

They don't want to gift the jets 4 free firsts despite what some Winnipeg fans seem to think based on this thread

 

[kittiecarlyle]

As a follow up, how do jets fans see their cap going forward?
Are Stastny and Myers cap casualties? Or can they fit wheeler and the rfas in?

Hellebuck must have earned himself 6ish with a vezina nod

Personally to deal with the cap restrictions I would seriously look at moving both Myers and Perreault. Would allow key pieces being signed including ( hopefully ) Stastny.

A 2C like Stastny is worth a lot more to the Jets than Perreault as the Jets have a lot of LW talent available, most at EL prices. Myers being traded gets a pretty substantial return and Trouba, Buff & Poolman are a pretty good RH trio. Manage the cap with entry level contracts and spend the dollars where it impacts the most ( 2C ).

 

[JetsHomer]

Their GM isn't stupid, he would restructure the offer to avoid getting up over 9.8

They don't want to gift the jets 4 free firsts despite what some Winnipeg fans seem to think based on this thread

Then the Jets would simply match the contract. Their GM isn’t stupid either, even if you seem to desparetly hope he is

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I’d take 4 1st rounders from Detroit

Good luck with that, Detroit wouldn't offer Trouba more then 6x6 and you wont get 4 #1 picks for that.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I want someone to offer sheet Trouba.

And why would Trouba sign and offer sheet? Winnipeg could match it and he'd be stuck there if he doesn't want to resign there. Makes no sense for him unless a team way over pays and Chevy doesn't want to match it.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Then the Jets would simply match the contract. Their GM isn’t stupid either, even if you seem to desparetly hope he is

The jets would match a 9.7x5 contract. I doubt it.

But sure go on being arrogant

 

[JetsHomer]

The jets would match a 9.7x5 contract. I doubt it.

But sure go on being arrogant

No team in the league would give him that terrible contract. You seem pretty clueless tbh

 

[north49er]

Trouba just isn't as good as he or his agent thinks. Nobody in their right mind would offer him $9+ million. Oh oh, I forgot, Chiarelli is still a GM.

 

[Gotaf7]

Is Byfuglien expendable at end of this season if management prefer to re-sign Myers and Trouba long term?

I'd hope Tallon is interested in bringing Buff to FLA. We have 1sts, 2nds, prospects and cheaper roster players to make it worth your while.

You have no ice fishing in Florida Buff is not interested.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

6x6 for both

R.I.P Jets if this happens.

Soon ending ELC’s:

Laine
Connor
Roslovic
Niku

Soon ending contracts:

Hellebuyck
Wheeler

 

[JetsHomer]

R.I.P Jets if this happens.

The Jets have 25m+ in capspace next year. They can easily afford it

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

some jets fans saying morrisey is better and others saying trouba is and that hes a number 1 dman...
any consensus?

 

[jgimp]

some jets fans saying morrisey is better and others saying trouba is and that hes a number 1 dman...
any consensus?

Morrissey is better defensively and a better skater and while Trouba is good offensively, Morrissey really hasn’t been given a chance to shine. He can turn it on when he wants but has had zero chance on the PPlay. My vote is with Josh Norrissey.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

The Jets have 25m+ in capspace next year. They can easily afford it

I don’t see it.

Hellebuyck is a Vezina nominee... 6-7 million there

Laine has the most goals since he’s entered the league... 8.5-10 million right there

Connor just finished his rookie season with 31 Goals... 5 - 6 million over here

Roslovic and Niku are still yet to show their NHL potential but they are excellent prospects, in two years time they could be to expensive for us. Probably 8 million combined here

Then add the proposing 12 million to that and the Jets are knew deep in Cap issues.

I’d prefer to keep all of those players above over Trouba(I’d rather a guy who is dedicated to the organization over a guy who would rather miss a percentage of the season over a money temper tantrum, point in case I would prefer a guy who is more about his team than himself regardless if he’s a little better).

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Morrissey is better defensively and a better skater and while Trouba is good offensively, Morrissey really hasn’t been given a chance to shine. He can turn it on when he wants but has had zero chance on the PPlay. My vote is with Josh Norrissey.

interesting, i thought deference was troubas calling card?

 

[JetsHomer]

I don’t see it.

Hellebuyck is a Vezina nominee... 6-7 million there

Laine has the most goals since he’s entered the league... 8.5-10 million right there

Connor just finished his rookie season with 31 Goals... 5 - 6 million over here

Roslovic and Niku are still yet to show their NHL potential but they are excellent prospects, in two years time they could be to expensive for us. Probably 8 million combined here

Then add the proposing 12 million to that and the Jets are knew deep in Cap issues.

I’d prefer to keep all of those players above over Trouba(I’d rather a guy who is dedicated to the organization over a guy who would rather miss a percentage of the season over a money temper tantrum, point in case I would prefer a guy who is more about his team than himself regardless if he’s a little better).

Only Morrissey/Trouba/Hellebuyck require new deals next year. 25m is more than enough for the Jets to keep all their players if they chose. Enstrom gone this year and Myers or Perreault next year and the Jets are fine with cap space