GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Dreakmur]

Do you think he would waive for a bottom 5 club though? I can't see it, unless Anaheim is much more of a destination than I understand it to be. Some places have cachet because of where they are like LA, NY, and to some Nashville. Maybe Fla if they find out they aren't retaining Reinhart. His list is going to be pretty short.

Anaheim may get better quickly, as they have quite a few good young guys - MacTavish, Gauthier, Carlson, LaCombe, Zellweger.

 

[SprDaVE]

If he wants to take a hometown discount, then maybe.

But at his age, any kind of multi-year moderately priced contract is risky, especially with his injury history.

Unfortunately, Treliving has a bit of a history of questionable UFA signings (granted it's harder to attract players to Calgary).

I think Treliving has shown he doesn't really care about age and multi year deals as you said, case in point Ryan Reaves. He wants his guy and he gets him, more or less. Tanev has been fairly durable in recent years but with our luck/curse, he'll be on LTIR within a few games.

You're not going to get a star 25 year old in free agency. So you have to take a risk and target players that can fix some issues and also elevate the quality around your core and the overall team. There are a bunch of very good targets heading to free agency right now (that can change) so I'd like Treliving to be aggressive. Obviously you need to be smart and show restraint, so it's not an easy thing to naviguate.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

 

[LeafSteel]

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If Kypreos is right on that I can almost 50% forgive him for pushing for Knies to be traded at the TDL for Kane 2 years ago.

……….. actually, I can 25% forgive him. I still hate it. If Marner actually is traded, then it will go up to 50%.

 

[Zero1]

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Some teams (Ottawa) are okay just making the playoffs every year. I’m sure those teams will be interested.

 

[rumman]

I get the PLD hesitation but also remember him owning the leafs in a playoff series and being exactly the type of forward they need. Would depend on the plus for sure.

I remember Jason Blake owning the Leafs as a Islander, but once here he was useless except for skating fast laps around like NASCAR on ice…….

I get the PLD hesitation but also remember him owning the leafs in a playoff series and being exactly the type of forward they need. Would depend on the plus for sure.

Rob Blake is nuts if he doesn’t buy PLD out while he can at a reasonable price, that guy’s a cancer………

I get the PLD hesitation but also remember him owning the leafs in a playoff series and being exactly the type of forward they need. Would depend on the plus for sure.

Rob Blake is nuts if he doesn’t buy PLD out while he can at a reasonable price, that guy’s a cancer………

 

[rumman]

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Good to know, shouldn’t be too hard to get a respectable return……..

 

[Brobust]

Trying to be realistic with a Marner trade and shooting low

Philadelphia receives: Marner
Toronto receives: Frost, Cates, 12th overall, 2025 Colorado 1st round pick

Trade Liljegren, Robertson, Jarnkrok for mid round picks

UFA signings: Matt Duchene($5M), Anthony Mantha($2.5M), JVR($1M), Montour($7M), Tanev($4.5M), Kylington($1.5M) strong backup goalie($3M)

Knies - Matthews - Duchene
Holmberg - Tavares - McMann
Mantha - Frost - Nylander
Cates - Kampf - JVR

Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Montour
Benoit - Kylington
Timmins

Woll
Backup

My main idea here is to create 2 2nd lines and round out a reliable top 4 defence with guys who are actually top 4 defencemen. This team would also have about $5M left over so room to make a big move in season or you could pursue Pesce over Tanev.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

There are some pretty god options for fixing the defence in free agency. More than I thought anyway.

Brandon Montour
Brett Pesce
Matt Roy
Nikita Zadorov
Chris Tanev
Sean Walker

 

[rumman]

I guess it's time to start fresh for all the crazy madness people wanna throw out there. Let's start with:

Piss off Pierre……..

We don't need full value for Marner, we just need him the f*** outta here.

Exactly…….

Shanny, Keefe, Marner, Sammy, and JT (if you can) need to go. If you have to suffer with JT for next year, do not resign him. We need to change the culture of the team too.

I don't mind what Tre has done this year. But seeing what he did in Calgary kind of makes me worry. Don't know of the alternatives that exist at the moment.

Don’t forget about Rielly, he needs to go also……….

Our "terrible players" were our best players in the playoffs

Domi, Bert, Edmunsom, Benoit, Lub, were playing great hockey

Tavares, Marner were unplayable

Matthews and nylander and rielly poor

This core sucks individually and collectively

Agreed…….

Depends. If Shanny was rumoured to approve trades and such, or fired Dubas when he hinted at trading a core 4 (among other things), then I'd say he has to go. Will never know that for sure.

I kind of hope Tre pulls a Burke in what Burke did to Kaberle - "Give me a list of teams, or I am sitting you. I wasn't the one who gave you the NMC". I think there needs to be a culture shift, and that starts at the top.

This is what has to happen…….

 

[rumman]

Move Marner, let JT ride out the last year of his contract

Tavares is cooked but he showed in this playoff that he's willing to battle and grind. Used properly, he can be effective.

Deploy JT properly in a 3rd/4th line centre position and he won’t hurt the team, ignore his salary for one more year……….

 

[Brobust]

Piss off Pierre……..


Exactly…….


Don’t forget about Rielly, he needs to go also……….


Agreed…….


This is what has to happen…….

That Pierre LeBrun tweet is such bullshit. He wouldn't tweet that about any other team potentially trading a star player.

 

[rumman]

That Pierre LeBrun tweet is such bullshit. He wouldn't tweet that about any other team potentially trading a star player.

Yup……

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Trying to be realistic with a Marner trade and shooting low

Philadelphia receives: Marner
Toronto receives: Frost, Cates, 12th overall, 2025 Colorado 1st round pick

Trade Liljegren, Robertson, Jarnkrok for mid round picks

UFA signings: Matt Duchene($5M), Anthony Mantha($2.5M), JVR($1M), Montour($7M), Tanev($4.5M), Kylington($1.5M) strong backup goalie($3M)

Knies - Matthews - Duchene
Holmberg - Tavares - McMann
Mantha - Frost - Nylander
Cates - Kampf - JVR

Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Montour
Benoit - Kylington
Timmins

Woll
Backup

My main idea here is to create 2 2nd lines and round out a reliable top 4 defence with guys who are actually top 4 defencemen. This team would also have about $5M left over so room to make a big move in season or you could pursue Pesce over Tanev.

Not realistic at all. Philly says no! Marner isn’t worth four 1st lol

 

[Rare Jewel]

There are some pretty god options for fixing the defence in free agency. More than I thought anyway.

Brandon Montour
Brett Pesce
Matt Roy
Nikita Zadorov
Chris Tanev
Sean Walker

Carrier and Demelo as well.

 

[Brobust]

Not realistic at all. Philly says no! Marner isn’t worth four 1st lol

If a trade for a 24 year old 40 point player, a 25 year old 4th liner, a pick in the teens and a late 1st is too much for Marner, then they might as well pack up and give him away for free.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

If a trade for a 24 year old 40 point player, a 25 year old 4th liner, a pick in the teens and a late 1st is too much for Marner, then they might as well pack up and give him away for free.

Marner is 1 year from free agency. Lowers his value along with nmc. Cates is philly’s captain and worth a 1st. Then you have them giving up two additional 1st round picks, and frost who will easily get 2nd round pick. Philly also wouldn’t be interested, they are rebuilding

 

[ER89]

Marner is 1 year from free agency. Lowers his value along with nmc. Cates is philly’s captain and worth a 1st. Then you have them giving up two additional 1st round picks, and frost who will easily get 2nd round pick. Philly also wouldn’t be interested, they are rebuilding

And all there players are trash so who gives a f***.

Also Marner would likely waive NMC knowing he re signs there. But even if he didn't that's still a godawful package.

 

[TMLAM34]

With potentially Pesce, Chatfield, and DeAngelo leaving Carolina

A Kotkaniemi for Liljegren deal may make sense.

I wouldn’t be against it, I think I’d need a mid round pick coming back as well.

 

[Kiwi]

If you could get a motivated PLD you'd have a great player for your middle 6
When he's on he's one hell of a player

It's motivating the ****** that's the problem

 

[hamzarocks]

Carolina might get swept in r2

Wonder if they go after Marner. Sign and trade and add an offensive star winger to their core?


They have a lot of good prospects + Necas &/or Drury who are nice assets

 

[Rare Jewel]

I wouldn’t be against it, I think I’d need a mid round pick coming back as well.

I mean, there could be some other bits, but if they get KK going, it would help at C quite a bit.

If they could get a 3rd '25 as well, then great considering they don't have a pick until the 5th round next year.

 

[Rare Jewel]

If you could get a motivated PLD you'd have a great player for your middle 6
When he's on he's one hell of a player

It's motivating the ****** that's the problem

I agree with the player; he was very good in the play-in series.

But his fluctuating play may not be best for this group. $8.5m is a big number as well.

 

[Legion34]

Marner is 1 year from free agency. Lowers his value along with nmc. Cates is philly’s captain and worth a 1st. Then you have them giving up two additional 1st round picks, and frost who will easily get 2nd round pick. Philly also wouldn’t be interested, they are rebuilding

I think you are mistaking Sean couturier and Noah Cates

 

[TMLAM34]

I mean there could be some other bits, but if they get KK going, it would help at C quite a bit.

If they could get a 3rd '25 as well then great.

Knies - Kotkaniemi - Nylander

Could help Kotkaniemi get going.