Tyler Durden
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What do you guys think of his play as of late? Do you see him continuing playing on the top pairing with de Haan? And on the second PP unit? Discuss anything else you want about "The Hammer".
In the making of Team Canada Olympic Team video, one of the GM's compared Hammer to Seabrook with better skating and not as experienced. I think it was Chiarelli. Looks like he's tracking that way.
In the making of Team Canada Olympic Team video, one of the GM's compared Hammer to Seabrook with better skating and not as experienced. I think it was Chiarelli. Looks like he's tracking that way.
Travis Hamonic continues to pick up penalties at a massive pace and it's not a good thing at all. So far this year Hamonic has drawn six penalties and taken 20 for a -14 penalty differential. Over the course of a 1,640 minute season (20 minutes a game for 82 games), that would put him at -27.4 on the season. He's on pace for 39.1 penalties. For comparison's sake, Mr. penalty Steve Staios was -15 during the 2011-2012 season which would put him at -30.1 over the course of a full season so Hamonic is not that far off from him. Staios had 22 penalties which would put him at 37.1 penalties on an average season, so Hamonic is actually on track to take more penalties than Staios did. Hamonic needs to start being much more disciplined as right now he's hurting the team (particularly when the penalty killing is abhorrent to begin with).
It is a little high but not out of the ballpark for a physical defensive defenseman. I would no more tell Hamonic to dampen his game down than I would tell Pronger or Stevens to. He isn't taking himself off the ice with 5 minute fighting penalties which was a problem earlier in his career.
IMO, this is an example of stats gone a little overboard.
I think that's fair, and I'm not sure I would tell him to change his game either. But it's something to keep an eye on considering how terrible we are on the PK.
Here are other guys with a penalty differential as bad or worse than Hamonic. Not exactly great company, and he's on the lower end of games played.
Name| pos| Team |Gm| PN| PN-| PN+/-| TOI| PN +/- per TOI
Dustin.Byfuglien |D| WPG| 51| 35| 16| -19| 1161| -0.016365202
Steve.Downie |RL| PIT |44| 43| 26| -17| 568.9| -0.029882229
Andrew.Ladd |L| WPG |51| 23| 6| -17| 1013.5| -0.016773557
Jay.Harrison |D| CAR/WPG| 37| 21| 5| -16 |639.8| -0.025007815
Scott.Hartnell |L| CBJ |43| 28| 13| -15| 773.4| -0.01939488
Kevin.Bieksa |D| VAN| 45| 26| 11| -15| 950.4| -0.015782828
Andrej.Meszaros| D| BUF| 34| 15| 1| -14 |605| -0.023140496
Alex.Chiasson |R| OTT| 44| 17| 3| -14| 671.2| -0.020858164
David.Clarkson |R| TOR |51| 25| 11| -14| 733.2| -0.019094381
Mark.Stuart |D| WPG| 40| 20| 6| -14 |770.3| -0.018174737
Travis.Hamonic |D| NYI |39 |20| 6| -14| 839.4| -0.01667858
I think that's fair, and I'm not sure I would tell him to change his game either. But it's something to keep an eye on considering how terrible we are on the PK.
Here are other guys with a penalty differential as bad or worse than Hamonic. Not exactly great company, and he's on the lower end of games played.
Name| pos| Team |Gm| PN| PN-| PN+/-| TOI| PN +/- per TOI
Dustin.Byfuglien |D| WPG| 51| 35| 16| -19| 1161| -0.016365202
Steve.Downie |RL| PIT |44| 43| 26| -17| 568.9| -0.029882229
Andrew.Ladd |L| WPG |51| 23| 6| -17| 1013.5| -0.016773557
Jay.Harrison |D| CAR/WPG| 37| 21| 5| -16 |639.8| -0.025007815
Scott.Hartnell |L| CBJ |43| 28| 13| -15| 773.4| -0.01939488
Kevin.Bieksa |D| VAN| 45| 26| 11| -15| 950.4| -0.015782828
Andrej.Meszaros| D| BUF| 34| 15| 1| -14 |605| -0.023140496
Alex.Chiasson |R| OTT| 44| 17| 3| -14| 671.2| -0.020858164
David.Clarkson |R| TOR |51| 25| 11| -14| 733.2| -0.019094381
Mark.Stuart |D| WPG| 40| 20| 6| -14 |770.3| -0.018174737
Travis.Hamonic |D| NYI |39 |20| 6| -14| 839.4| -0.01667858
Worse when he's in the box. That said, I am unsure about the value of this "stat".
He's a solid 2/3 at this point although his decisions with the puck in the o-zone need to be a little better.
"As a staff, you're thinking, who are you going to take?'' Jack Capuano said, indicating it did not take long to decide on the 24-year-old defenseman. "He's a guy who likes to take that role. Even without that letter on, he's a very mature guy for his age. He's a great leader. He's vocal, too.''
Plus he speaks with his stick, strength and skating. Hamonic was plus-1 in the 3-2 win over the Sabres with two assists and a typically strong defensive effort. Yes, he brought his "A'' game.
Hamonic is a great #3 guy not a top pairing guy really, but a great #3...his offensive games has improved tremendously this year even if the numbers dont show it, getting into the attack and making things happen. He has had a great season now that he doesn't have A-Mac dragging him down.
Hamonic is a great #3 guy not a top pairing guy really, but a great #3...his offensive games has improved tremendously this year even if the numbers dont show it, getting into the attack and making things happen. He has had a great season now that he doesn't have A-Mac dragging him down.