Injury Report: Dermott Shoulder Injury - Babcock plans back Saturday in Ottawa

[Loosie]

Hasn't he been a healthy scratch?

He's played 6 of 8 games since the trade deadline. 0 points and a -5. 14 hitz though!

 

[DankinIT]

This isn't communist Russia.

You should listen to the Bonino Spittin Chiclets podcast. Wouldn't happen during the regular season but come playoffs.

 

[The90]

You are being argumentative. I base my points entirely on facts. McQuaid has never given up a playoff goal in last 2 minutes ever to tie or lose a game. And he has won a Cup. He knows how to do it. He has those skill sets.

Gards has lost a couple. Rielly has never had the chance yet.

Because he’s not on the ice lol. I bet Colton Orr had the same stat. Better pull him out of retirement while we’re at it.

 

[LeafSteel]

I think Gardiner has played his last game as a Leaf.

I’m more optimistic we see Dermott before the playoffs start.

 

[janesy12]

I think Gardiner has played his last game as a Leaf.

I’m more optimistic we see Dermott before the playoffs start.

Agree on Gardiner. Leafs have been hush hush on him and playoffs start in about 3.5 weeks. He's probably done unless we move past the first round.
Dermott I think it depends on the standings. If things get close for home ice, or if we slide he'll play before the playoffs.

 

[ULF_55]

The bigger problems are the injuries on the Marlies, and the Seattle draft.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

We need Dermott back. And he needs a few games in season to get back in game shape. We can't keep running out AHLers here.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Because he’s not on the ice lol. I bet Colton Orr had the same stat. Better pull him out of retirement while we’re at it.

It's almost like teams recognize that you need someone who can get the puck out of the zone after your McQuaid/Polak hits someone in the corner.

The McQuaid fanboys forget how many goals Boston scored against us after a 2nd or 3rd icing in a row because our RHD could not exit the zone cleanly.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

It's almost like teams recognize that you need someone who can get the puck out of the zone after your McQuaid/Polak hits someone in the corner.

The McQuaid fanboys forget how many goals Boston scored against us after a 2nd or 3rd icing in a row because our RHD could not exit the zone cleanly.

Are you talking about last years playoff series? I was at every game live and I can only remember 2 Bruins goals off of a face off in games 6 and 7. and neither from an icing.

If you want the actual count from a McQuaid fanboy here

Bruins goals off RUSH - 6
Bruins goals off PP - 7
Bruins goals off set plays off FACE-OFF - 2
Bruins goals off forecheck/cycle - 13

And if you watch highlights McQuaid and Chara were on the ice in last 2 minutes of every game when Bruins were protecting lead including game 7

McQuaid also scored a goal and made 3 other goals happen as a result of his hard work

So before you go shooting off about him he was a key player against us as their coach put on ice in every key situation defending a lead

 

[Martin Skoula]

Are you talking about last years playoff series? I was at every game live and I can only remember 2 Bruins goals off of a face off in games 6 and 7. and neither from an icing.

If you want the actual count from a McQuaid fanboy here

Bruins goals off RUSH - 6
Bruins goals off PP - 7
Bruins goals off set plays off FACE-OFF - 2
Bruins goals off forecheck/cycle - 13

And if you watch highlights McQuaid and Chara were on the ice in last 2 minutes of every game when Bruins were protecting lead including game 7

McQuaid also scored a goal and made 3 other goals happen as a result of his hard work

So before you go shooting off about him he was a key player against us as their coach put on ice in every key situation defending a lead

Go see how many of those goals were scored on defensemen who have been out for 2-3x normal shift length due to icings. There's a reason they were able to cycle so effectively against us, and there's a reason our defense would fade as the game went on.

The goal doesn't have to come off a set play for a series of icings to be responsible for it happening.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Go see how many of those goals were scored on defensemen who have been out for 2-3x normal shift length due to icings. There's a reason they were able to cycle so effectively against us, and there's a reason our defense would fade as the game went on.

The goal doesn't have to come off a set play for a series of icings to be responsible for it happening.

Who cares????????????? If our defense got caught out for 2-3X their normal shift length (which seems exceeding high) then that is their fault or the coaches fault.

We lost that series because we lost battles in our end for the puck and we could not break up the Bruins cycle game. Plus the PP's hurt too on a secondary level. The only question to figure out is how do we stop the fore check from coming this year and if/when we do lose the puck how do we get it back in our own end. If we don't seriously address this issue we will lose again.

We did not LOSE because on face-off set plays and goals off the rush from Bruins end of ice.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

and if McQuaid sucks so bad why did Bruins put him on the ice when protecting leads late? makes no sense to me. what the clown coach in Columbus does only explains why they will miss playoffs again.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

and if McQuaid sucks so bad why did Bruins put him on the ice when protecting leads late? makes no sense to me. what the clown coach in Columbus does only explains why they will miss playoffs again.

If he's so great, why don't Boston, the rangers, and now Columbus value having him on the team?

 

[therealkoho]

The bigger problems are the injuries on the Marlies, and the Seattle draft.

yeah it kinda sucks for the Marlies as well, good thing is though is none of them seem long term whatsoever. Rosen was already to go when he took a shot on the same foot that was injured and so has been held back to give the injury additional healing time as it is he's probably day to day hopefully the Deuce can make the quick transition to pro and help them out

no use worrying about Seattle, the Leafs will lose one contract, no big whoop


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Tanner MacMaster, Adam Brooks and Josh Jooris have goals for the Marlies, a 3-1 third period lead on Cleveland. Note that D Calle Rosen, who is getting a lot of attention since the trade deadline for a look with the Leafs, took a shot off the foot a few days ago and isn't ready.
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[HamiltonNHL]

I think Gardiner has played his last game as a Leaf.

I think Scotiabank Centre got to him.

And he doesn't feel he's being renewed.

 

[The90]

There is a thing in NHL called the CAP. You know that socialist thing bettman does. 32 year old guys who are not 1st liners in new nhl world wanting raises get moved. and with McAvoy and Carlo and Heinen up sorry those guys come first and Bruins are CAP team. Rangers were just trying to get assets in rebuild. Columbus well enough said it should not even have a team.

The cap lol. Guess torts is saving them money by scratching him. You’re trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Yes, The D could’ve used an upgrade. However, McQuaid is not that upgrade

 

[Stephen]

Is McQuaid the advanced stats whipping boy?

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

The bigger problems are the injuries on the Marlies, and the Seattle draft.

The Seattle draft isn't really an issue at all.

 

[ULF_55]

The Seattle draft isn't really an issue at all.

With the Leafs defense and only protecting 3 of Rielly, Dermott, Liljegren and Sandin I'd say it is a concern. My understanding is 2 years pro hockey, so you'd have to protect whoever you brought up.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

With the Leafs defense and only protecting 3 of Rielly, Dermott, Liljegren and Sandin I'd say it is a concern. My understanding is 2 years pro hockey, so you'd have to protect whoever you brought up.

Yes but if we don't bring up Sandin or Liljegren this year their ELC's don't start and they aren't eligible for the expansion draft.

Neither were coming up this year anyways because A) they aren't ready yet, and B) the years of control are too important even before the expansion draft is considered.

So I mean the expansion draft isn't a concern in relation to our defense problem.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

With the Leafs defense and only protecting 3 of Rielly, Dermott, Liljegren and Sandin I'd say it is a concern. My understanding is 2 years pro hockey, so you'd have to protect whoever you brought up.

If the ELC slides then it doesn't count towards professional time in regards to the expansion draft. That is probably a main reason you aren't going to see either of them until next season.

 

[deletethis]

The Leafs are really missing both Gardiner and Dermott. It's almost like a team can't win on the backs of their forwards alone. It's almost like it's unfair to assume that cheap defense insertions can replace better talent.

The only hard luck part of this situation in my opinion is that neither of Borgman and Rosen were healthy to step in. Rosen would have been a decent substitution for Dermott.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

The cap lol. Guess torts is saving them money by scratching him. You’re trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Yes, The D could’ve used an upgrade. However, McQuaid is not that upgrade

We ll we can agree to disagree and that's hockey. If the Bruins can put him on the ice every game they had the lead in the last 2 minutes against us in the playoffs last year and we did not score once that says it all to me. I really don't care what dumb a** Torts does. To me he is completely buffoon.
I would say right now McQuaid would fall in after Rielly Hainsey and Muzzy. And he would have been a huge help past 3 games. I never said he was the answer. But against certain teams he would help and when we get injuries like right now we would not be under the gun. Lastly when we play the Bruins he would give us 2 guys who can handle the forecheck and cycling game which the Bruins scored against us 13 times (or almost 2 goals per game) last playoffs. Yes the PP cost us a goal a game but the forecheck/cycle cost us TWICE that amount of goals against last year. Stats will not help us solve that issue. Personnel and systems changes will. But I understand we have a CAP too and like the Bruins we will not be able to afford him next season. So I can understand Dubas' reasoning. I don't like the fact that we wasted money on overpays for Willy and Matty. That does not mean I don't love those guys I do.

 

[justafan22]

on the player at hand here:

he skated with a regular jersey today, probably a week - 10 days off.

 

[ShaneFalco]

The Leafs are really missing both Gardiner and Dermott. It's almost like a team can't win on the backs of their forwards alone. It's almost like it's unfair to assume that cheap defense insertions can replace better talent.

How much is Travis Dermott and Jake Gardiner’s ability to transport the puck missed?
Babcock: This is the way I look at this: We are here to discuss the players in the lineup, not the ones without. I don’t buy any of that. You put our uniform on, you’ve got to be able to go. Injuries are all part of sports. It doesn’t matter who is playing. We expect a lot from our group. It doesn’t matter if you’ve played three games, five games, ten games or if you’ve just got called up from the Marlies.

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