Training Camp Thread - First round of Cuts Made (10 players)

[Bullseye]

Holzer had a great game, but lets not get carried away. He was brutal when he was called up.

He wasn't brutal - it was a learning curve thing - plus he's playing for the leafs

 

[MJ65]

Who would be the first goalie to come up should JR or Bernier get hurt?

That's not going to happen - I hope not

 

[EveryDay]

Sry if its been posted but Gauthier will miss the next 3-4 weeks.

http://tvasports.ca/hockey/lnh/fracture-une-cote-pour-frederik-gauthier-23092014

 

[SprDaVE]

Sry if its been posted but Gauthier will miss the next 3-4 weeks.

http://tvasports.ca/hockey/lnh/fracture-une-cote-pour-frederik-gauthier-23092014

Fractured rib.

Ouch.

 

[gabeliscious]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 9m
Among the more interesting nuggets today was thought of returning Joffrey Lupul to the top line. Carlyle said he might experiment at camp.

Seems like Carlyle wants to run Kessel/Lupul and Kadri/JVR to start camp. Wouldn't be shocked to see Komarov/Kontiola, and Booth/Santorelli as the other two "pairings".

Bozak, Clarkson, Winnik, and Frattin plug in the holes. Holland, and Bodie/Orr scratched.

i wouldnt mind seeing;

lupul-bozak-kessel
jvr-kadri-frattin
booth-holland-clarkson
komorov-santorelli-winnik
kontiola/bodie

phaneuf-robidas
gardiner-polak
rielly-franson
holzer/percy

bernier
reimer

 

[Hotlanta]

This might be one of the toughest preseasons yet for Leafs' management in regards to offense for not only this season but for next. So many players and so little spots going into this season. Outside of JVR, Bozak, Kessel, Kadri, Lupul, Komarov, & Clarkson, no one has secured a job on the Leafs. Frattin, Santorelli, Holland, & Winnik are more than likely safe for now, but that only leaves 2-3 spots for strong candidates like Booth, Smith, Kontiola, & Bodie, as well as young guns like Leivo, Nylander, Ashton, Carrick, Broll, & Devane. And of course we can't forget about dark horses like Abbott, & Kozun, and enforcers like McLaren, & Orr.

On top of this, you have to take into consideration that Booth, Smith, Ashton, & Bodie are not waiver exempt, and that outside of the obvious 7 who's jobs are safe, only the young guns, plus Holland, & Frattin (also young guns) are signed for next season as well. So it becomes even more important on who plays this season, so that next season, if Winnik, Santorelli, Booth, Bodie, & Kontiola are all looking for raises, we aren't starting over with an all new bottom 6 next season when we can't afford the vets. I think the right balance of vets and rookies/young guns is going to be key, and some of these vets aren't going to make it.

My best guess is

Start of Season:
Lupul/JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul/JVR - Kadri - Clarkson
Komarov - Holland - Frattin
Winnik - Santa - Booth
Ashton

End of Season:
Lupul/JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul/JVR - Kadri - Leivo
Santorelli - Holland - Clarkson
Winnik - Kontiola - Broll
Frattin

Lose to Waivers during Season: Ashton, Smith, Booth
Clears to Marlies: Orr, McLaren, Abbott, Kozun,
Waiver Exempt to Marlies to Start Season: Leivo, Nylander, Carrick, Broll, Devane, Kontiola

 

[Trapper]

This might be one of the toughest preseasons yet for Leafs' management in regards to offense for not only this season but for next. So many players and so little spots going into this season. Outside of JVR, Bozak, Kessel, Kadri, Lupul, Komarov, & Clarkson, no one has secured a job on the Leafs. Frattin, Santorelli, Holland, & Winnik are more than likely safe for now, but that only leaves 2-3 spots for strong candidates like Booth, Smith, Kontiola, & Bodie, as well as young guns like Leivo, Nylander, Ashton, Carrick, Broll, & Devane. And of course we can't forget about dark horses like Abbott, & Kozun, and enforcers like McLaren, & Orr.

On top of this, you have to take into consideration that Booth, Smith, Ashton, & Bodie are not waiver exempt, and that outside of the obvious 7 who's jobs are safe, only the young guns, plus Holland, & Frattin (also young guns) are signed for next season as well. So it becomes even more important on who plays this season, so that next season, if Winnik, Santorelli, Booth, Bodie, & Kontiola are all looking for raises, we aren't starting over with an all new bottom 6 next season when we can't afford the vets. I think the right balance of vets and rookies/young guns is going to be key, and some of these vets aren't going to make it.

My best guess is

Start of Season:
Lupul/JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul/JVR - Kadri - Clarkson
Komarov - Holland - Frattin
Winnik - Santa - Booth
Ashton

End of Season:
Lupul/JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul/JVR - Kadri - Leivo
Santorelli - Holland - Clarkson
Winnik - Kontiola - Broll
Frattin

Lose to Waivers during Season: Ashton, Smith, Booth
Clears to Marlies: Orr, McLaren, Abbott, Kozun,
Waiver Exempt to Marlies to Start Season: Leivo, Nylander, Carrick, Broll, Devane, Kontiola

Komarov is off the team by end of season?

 

[Pholus]

This might be one of the toughest preseasons yet for Leafs' management in regards to offense for not only this season but for next. So many players and so little spots going into this season. Outside of JVR, Bozak, Kessel, Kadri, Lupul, Komarov, & Clarkson, no one has secured a job on the Leafs. Frattin, Santorelli, Holland, & Winnik are more than likely safe for now, but that only leaves 2-3 spots for strong candidates like Booth, Smith, Kontiola, & Bodie, as well as young guns like Leivo, Nylander, Ashton, Carrick, Broll, & Devane. And of course we can't forget about dark horses like Abbott, & Kozun, and enforcers like McLaren, & Orr.

On top of this, you have to take into consideration that Booth, Smith, Ashton, & Bodie are not waiver exempt, and that outside of the obvious 7 who's jobs are safe, only the young guns, plus Holland, & Frattin (also young guns) are signed for next season as well. So it becomes even more important on who plays this season, so that next season, if Winnik, Santorelli, Booth, Bodie, & Kontiola are all looking for raises, we aren't starting over with an all new bottom 6 next season when we can't afford the vets. I think the right balance of vets and rookies/young guns is going to be key, and some of these vets aren't going to make it.

Why not? We've been waiting since last year to forget about these useless plugs. Given all the vets signed in the off season, I can't see Abbott or Kozun making the team, they would have to outplay 2-3 guys (not including Orr/McLaren) and I highly doubt they can do that. Also, Smith and Bodie passed through waivers last year, so there's no reason they wouldn't get through again this time.

 

[MJ65]

i wouldnt mind seeing;

lupul-bozak-kessel
jvr-kadri-frattin
booth-holland-clarkson
komorov-santorelli-winnik
kontiola/bodie

phaneuf-robidas
gardiner-polak
rielly-franson
holzer/percy

bernier
reimer

Frattin is going to be a 13th or a 14th forward

 

[SeaOfBlue]

This might be one of the toughest preseasons yet for Leafs' management in regards to offense for not only this season but for next. So many players and so little spots going into this season. Outside of JVR, Bozak, Kessel, Kadri, Lupul, Komarov, & Clarkson, no one has secured a job on the Leafs. Frattin, Santorelli, Holland, & Winnik are more than likely safe for now, but that only leaves 2-3 spots for strong candidates like Booth, Smith, Kontiola, & Bodie, as well as young guns like Leivo, Nylander, Ashton, Carrick, Broll, & Devane. And of course we can't forget about dark horses like Abbott, & Kozun, and enforcers like McLaren, & Orr.

On top of this, you have to take into consideration that Booth, Smith, Ashton, & Bodie are not waiver exempt, and that outside of the obvious 7 who's jobs are safe, only the young guns, plus Holland, & Frattin (also young guns) are signed for next season as well. So it becomes even more important on who plays this season, so that next season, if Winnik, Santorelli, Booth, Bodie, & Kontiola are all looking for raises, we aren't starting over with an all new bottom 6 next season when we can't afford the vets. I think the right balance of vets and rookies/young guns is going to be key, and some of these vets aren't going to make it.

My best guess is

Start of Season:
Lupul/JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul/JVR - Kadri - Clarkson
Komarov - Holland - Frattin
Winnik - Santa - Booth
Ashton

End of Season:
Lupul/JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul/JVR - Kadri - Leivo
Santorelli - Holland - Clarkson
Winnik - Kontiola - Broll
Frattin

Lose to Waivers during Season: Ashton, Smith, Booth
Clears to Marlies: Orr, McLaren, Abbott, Kozun,
Waiver Exempt to Marlies to Start Season: Leivo, Nylander, Carrick, Broll, Devane, Kontiola

Um, we would never lose Ashton and Booth to waivers because they aren't going to go onto waivers. Booth may suck during the season, so we may not be able to trade him, but we'd send Kontiola down (for as long as he's waiver exempt) before Booth. Ashton would also likely be traded before being sent down, and he already has interest from teams most likely.

At the end of the season, if we were to really suck, see as many UFA's gone as we can possibly trade. Bottom 6ers come at premiums at the deadline, and it's pretty easy to find good ones on good contracts during the UFA if you are smart (this past year). Like seriously, the bottom 6 will already already consist of Komarov and Frattin nearly guaranteed. All of the other guys who will play bottom 6 next year, such as Broll, Devane, Carrick and Ashton, are already quite experienced guys. They learn the ropes from the vets (the Smith's, Staubitz's, etc.) in the AHL; the NHL game they learn from call ups, camp and the summer.

 

[Warden of the North]

New thread up

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=89908017#post89908017